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Ladies, are leering men holding back your swimming? The Greens have an answer

By johnboy - 8 February 2012 264

The Greens’ Meredith Hunter is kicking off a push for women’s only swimming opportunities in the ACT:

“Providing women’s only swimming would increase the availability of swimming to a number of women and children in our community, both for safety, and for fun.

“Some women and families currently do not use our public pools due to religious reasons, accessibility concerns, or for body image reasons.

“I have raised women’s only swimming with the Chief Minister in recent weeks, and I hope her planned meetings with community advocates will progress this issue.

“There have been some women’s only swimming programs run by community organizations or small community groups on a season by season basis, which rely on the availability of private pools such as the pool at Canberra Girls Grammar or the ACU.

“With work yet to begin on the new Gungahlin Leisure Centre, the Government has a golden opportunity, for instance, to incorporate screening into the design so that a separated pool area can be available for women only sessions.

“Such ad hoc arrangements can be difficult to manage, especially due to the rising costs of insurance, which many small community organisations are not able to meet.

UPDATE 08/02/12 15:25: Andrew Barr has tweeted his disapproval:

The ACT Labor Government will not be supporting the Greens call for a women’s only public swimming pool. Public pools are for everyone.

UPDATE 09/02/12 10:04: A spokeperson for the Greens has sent this in:

The tweet from Andrew Barr yesterday regarding women’s only swimming may have caused his followers and your readers to be misinformed about the issue. No one that we know of has proposed a women’s only pool. The Greens certainly don’t support that. This is about opportunities for women’s only swim sessions. Women’s and Men’s only swim sessions were run in the past at the now closed Kaleen swim centre, and were very popular (about 60 people per session). Investigating a temporary screen for such sessions is being supported by the Royal Life Savers ACT, YWCA as well as the Greens.

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264 Responses to
Ladies, are leering men holding back your swimming? The Greens have an answer
Mothy 11:40 am 08 Feb 12

Someone introduce Meredith to Monash (Melbourne) councilor Denise McGill’s contacts please.

johnboy 11:33 am 08 Feb 12

I also wonder what they’re going to do with lesbians, gays, and heck the whole rest of the rainbow?

dtc 11:33 am 08 Feb 12

There is no doubt that cultural issues significantly impact on some women being able to participate in some activities.

However, swimming is such a boring activity that I doubt anyone affected would want to do it anyway.

Jivrashia 11:29 am 08 Feb 12

If there is going to be a women only venues, I demand the following:
– transgender only venue
– missing-limb only venue
– nude only venue
– burkini only venue

Equal opportunity for all.

watto23 11:29 am 08 Feb 12

colourful sydney racing identity said :

I understand, and support, the idea of women only gyms, but this is really going too far.

See I don’t understand women only gyms either, but this swimming suggestion is ridiculous. When i was 30+kg heavier, I didn’t want to go swimming in a public place either. you get over it eventually.

Most of the classes are either majority women or majority men and the odd ones out know that. I’ve done aqua classes where the whole class was 40+ generally overweight women. I kind of felt uncomfortable for a few minutes, but it was all ok.

Even in the general weights room etc there are a mix of people, sure a lot of young guys lifting weights and flexing in the mirror, but they probably make up less than half and there are plenty of older men, women of all ages and sizes all working out together. I don’t like leering men either and I’m a man, but well is it that hard to ignore people. In fact the young guys at my gym are generally pretty good, keep to themselves, do their workouts, have their protein shake and leave. A bit of flirting with the younger girls goes on, but then again, i’d be flirting too if i was 20 again.

In a public place, if someone behaviour is out of line, point it out to the staff. I think 50% of the problem is in onew own mind and thinking somethiong, when its far from the truth. Same can be said for racism, number of times I’ve heard someone claim racism because they didn’t get served quick enough in a cafe FFS!

Rollersk8r 11:27 am 08 Feb 12

My brain just exploded. I only wish I’d heard this suggestion without knowing it came from the Greens…

Thumper 11:14 am 08 Feb 12

April came around early this year didn’t it?

devils_advocate 10:53 am 08 Feb 12

I’m usually pretty sympathetic to and accepting of other people’s religious beliefs but have to draw the line when it impacts on the rights of others in a secular community. I don’t care if people want to cover their faces as it doesn’t impact directly on me. BUt the right to swing one’s arm ends when another’s nose begins. Pandering to minorities is fine, until it impacts on the majority, and then it becomes oppressive.

Australia makes no secret of its approach to outdoor swimming attire. Indeed this is an integral part of its international image.

colourful sydney rac 10:51 am 08 Feb 12

I understand, and support, the idea of women only gyms, but this is really going too far.

Dilandach 10:49 am 08 Feb 12

Leering men?

I thought it was more PC to say “Potential Sex offenders who eye rape”

buzz819 10:47 am 08 Feb 12

There’s already women only gyms – that is pushing it too far as it is. Another prime example as to why the Greens need to take a good hard look at what the majority want not pc whiners!

chewy14 10:47 am 08 Feb 12

Ah the Greens,
just when you thought they couldn’t get any more retarded.

I have religious objections to swimming with anyone else, can the government please build me a personal 50m swimming pool?

Mysteryman 10:43 am 08 Feb 12

Morgan said :

Oh please, this is a bit silly don’t you think. What would happen if we had men only swimming times? Or if we had swimming times for white people only who don’t want to share the pool with migrants? Or what about swimming only for fit trim people so no one has to see a fat person? Or conversely we ban all fit people from public exercise so as not to make unfit people feel self conscious? Or while we are at why don’t we just ban men from the world. These are the same people who assume I am a sex offender for taking a video of my young nephews learning to swim to send to their grandparents.

A public swimming pool is for all people men, women, children and families to use. I have no problem in booking lanes etc. but this suggestion would see only women rostered on at the women only times and an inconvience to a great many people. Let private interests build their own facilities at a private expense, and the rest of us will learn to share the pool.

This x 1000. I don’t like where this city is headed.

Chop71 10:36 am 08 Feb 12

Al, I hope you didn’t sign up for this.

Seriously, I think they need you more than you need them.

Morgan 10:29 am 08 Feb 12

Oh please, this is a bit silly don’t you think. What would happen if we had men only swimming times? Or if we had swimming times for white people only who don’t want to share the pool with migrants? Or what about swimming only for fit trim people so no one has to see a fat person? Or conversely we ban all fit people from public exercise so as not to make unfit people feel self conscious? Or while we are at why don’t we just ban men from the world. These are the same people who assume I am a sex offender for taking a video of my young nephews learning to swim to send to their grandparents.

A public swimming pool is for all people men, women, children and families to use. I have no problem in booking lanes etc. but this suggestion would see only women rostered on at the women only times and an inconvience to a great many people. Let private interests build their own facilities at a private expense, and the rest of us will learn to share the pool.

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