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Liberals to strip discrimination protection to target waggers [With poll]

By johnboy - 21 September 2011 31

The Liberals’ Zed Seselja has announced plans to legislate a right for shopkeepers to turn away customers they think are students who should be in school.

“Last year, the Lanyon High School Principal tried to stop wagging by asking local shop keepers not to serve students during school hours.

“ACT Labor, together with the Human Rights Commissioner, branded this as discrimination, effectively creating a “right to wag.?

“We should be doing everything we can to ensure students get a proper education, not threatening legal action against shopkeepers who work with school communities to try to dissuade wagging.

“Our amendments to this Bill will not force shop owners to refuse service to students during school hours, but will remove the threat of legal action if they do.

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Liberals to strip discrimination protection to target waggers [With poll]
DarkLadyWolfMother 8:53 am 22 Sep 11

So presumably the idea is that a student wags school, goes to a shop, is rejected and suddenly are enlightened? From this point on they return to school, become a straight A student and cure cancer!

Zed has my support!

Watson 7:42 am 22 Sep 11

Watson said :

wooster said :

Proper schools dont let students out on so-called ‘free’ periods.

Good to hear there are plenty of menial workers coming out of Lanyon, though…

Free perionds can mean that college students start an hour later or finish an hour earlier on some days. I know that happened in my strict, old-fashioned catholic school 20+ years ago.

Periods even.

Watson 7:42 am 22 Sep 11

wooster said :

Proper schools dont let students out on so-called ‘free’ periods.

Good to hear there are plenty of menial workers coming out of Lanyon, though…

Free perionds can mean that college students start an hour later or finish an hour earlier on some days. I know that happened in my strict, old-fashioned catholic school 20+ years ago.

steveu 6:47 am 22 Sep 11

Yep Im with you Mysteryman,

That all being said – perhaps if there was a effective behaviour management policy from the ACT government then kids wouldnt be skipping school as much? Dont get me wrong wagging has been around since the invention of school I am sure – but if it is such a problem then perhaps they should look at the policy and their ability to implement the policy? personally, I think that instead of suspension they shoudl be spending their time in Binberi to get an idea of what their future could be like.

puggy 11:11 pm 21 Sep 11

Bosworth said :

how will shopkeepers be able to tell the difference between a student that is wagging, and a student that has a free period?

I’d wager the “high school” bit gives them some clue, or at least in my day there were no “free periods” in high school and you couldn’t leave the grounds. If someone bothered to continue onto college and still wags, then good for them.

wildturkeycanoe 11:08 pm 21 Sep 11

Zed, what happens if the student is legitimately buying food during lunch, or tampons, or other student needs? This law would not only give store owners a tool to eliminate the hordes in the mall, but alienate the students from society. They’d feel even less like responsible adults and more like some kind of criminal who can’t be trusted.
Does he have any brilliant ideas that will do actual benefits to society?

wooster 10:54 pm 21 Sep 11

Proper schools dont let students out on so-called ‘free’ periods.

Good to hear there are plenty of menial workers coming out of Lanyon, though…

2604 10:43 pm 21 Sep 11

Jeebus, so now we’re not only not busting kids for cutting class, but making sure that they don’t get discriminated against while they’re cutting class?

Nice to see that our local government has got its priorities right.

Henry82 9:43 pm 21 Sep 11

I didn’t realise students could leave school during free periods, i assumed that would have been banned years ago. Anyway, when i worked in liquor we were told it was store policy not to sell alcohol to kids in school uniform (even if they were over 18) – now i know that may have been illegal?

Watson 8:11 pm 21 Sep 11

Mysteryman said :

It does seem ridiculous, doesn’t it? I would like to think that shop keepers have the right to refuse service in a shop they own. I would support the legislation on that ground alone – not because I think it will have any effect on truancy.

Are you serious? Would you think it’s ok if the newsagent would refuse to sell a paper to an African person because they happen to be racist?

I’m sure there are already rules about having the right to refuse service if a customer is being abusive for example.

Discrimination is a serious issue. And even though the regulations around that may seem a bit too generic at times, it is much better than the alternative.

Mysteryman 5:22 pm 21 Sep 11

p1 said :

steveu said :

I gotta say I feel for the shopkeepers – you would have presumed that they had the right to refuse service to anyone – its their shop isnt it? I didnt realise we all had the right to enter any shop we choose and demand service, regardless of how obnoxious we were being at the time.

I always thought this was a massive grey area. You have the right to refuse service to who ever you want BUT you can’t discriminate against someone on the basis of race, religion, gender, sexual preference, age, hair colour, height, smell, accent, shoe size, preference for apple products, brand of V8, etc, etc, and so on, and so forth…..

It does seem ridiculous, doesn’t it? I would like to think that shop keepers have the right to refuse service in a shop they own. I would support the legislation on that ground alone – not because I think it will have any effect on truancy.

Watson 4:39 pm 21 Sep 11

Bosworth said :

how will shopkeepers be able to tell the difference between a student that is wagging, and a student that has a free period?

+1

I think it’s overkill.

(Can’t see the vote buttons though?)

p1 3:37 pm 21 Sep 11

steveu said :

I gotta say I feel for the shopkeepers – you would have presumed that they had the right to refuse service to anyone – its their shop isnt it? I didnt realise we all had the right to enter any shop we choose and demand service, regardless of how obnoxious we were being at the time.

I always thought this was a massive grey area. You have the right to refuse service to who ever you want BUT you can’t discriminate against someone on the basis of race, religion, gender, sexual preference, age, hair colour, height, smell, accent, shoe size, preference for apple products, brand of V8, etc, etc, and so on, and so forth…..

Bosworth 2:33 pm 21 Sep 11

how will shopkeepers be able to tell the difference between a student that is wagging, and a student that has a free period?

steveu 2:27 pm 21 Sep 11

I gotta say I feel for the shopkeepers – you would have presumed that they had the right to refuse service to anyone – its their shop isnt it? I didnt realise we all had the right to enter any shop we choose and demand service, regardless of how obnoxious we were being at the time.

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