Life City Church Canberra

johnboy 23 January 2007 44

I’ll start by saying that I’m a twice a year Anglican. As a result I’ll admit that I tend to think of evangelical churches as a bunch of intolerant nutters at the best of times, for all that I know many good people are into the happy clappy stuff.

So when I noticed in our googleads a listing for the “Life City Church Canberra” I’ll admit I was intrigued. Earning myself a couple of cents I followed the link and was fascinated to find a myspace page (here’s a pdf just in case they take it down) where badly aliased image files enticed me to join “prophetic and apostolic young men and women that will shape the future“.

Nevermind that Myspace is increasingly becoming a favoured haunt for those who want to exploit the vulnerable young, I would ask, dear reader, you consider their willingness to use the phrase “2 launch”.

In my opinion they’re either morons, or they’re trying to exploit gullible morons. When I was a slightly lost 17 year old pricks like these used to pester me no end in the hope they could exploit me. I can only hope our young readers have the sense to reject this bollocks while finding whatever level of genuine spirituality enriches their lives.

If Christianity does appeal to you I’d advise trying, for a while, a church that’s been around a few hundred years before chancing your arm with the untested stuff.


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Pandy Pandy 8:50 pm 05 Feb 07

What other psuedo eastern mystical mid-western USA religions are there in Canberra trying to steal our minds (and money)?

johnboy johnboy 8:47 pm 05 Feb 07

I consistently concede the possibility they might just be idiots.

simbo simbo 8:41 pm 05 Feb 07

I think you’re being overly harsh on the happy-clappies, John. Where you see mendaciously seeking out vulnerable youths for the furtherance of an evil cult, I see an honest, albiet rather cheesy, attempt to combine genuine spiritual belief with modern culture (much as, say, priests used Bob Dylan lyrics in sermons back in the 60s).

Yes, it’s tacky, but I wouldn’t call it evil.

johnboy johnboy 8:36 pm 05 Feb 07

Since predictive text arrived four years ago anything other than proper words is a time consuming affectation of the incompetent.

LifeCity LifeCity 8:00 pm 05 Feb 07

Do you write full words when you text John?

LifeCity LifeCity 7:57 pm 05 Feb 07

I think you will find that our use of myspace is simply because we have not yet launched our website.

johnboy johnboy 7:16 pm 05 Feb 07

man I’m loving the googleads this is bringing, give me your money!

johnboy johnboy 7:14 pm 05 Feb 07

‘2 Launch’ – I find it curious this is something of controversy – I am 26, I have been a youth worker for years – the general crew that do come to LifeCity events are young. That is how I write all the time on the net, that is why we communicate like such. It is actually who we are. I guess when you text you use full words? Our heart is to speak Australian rather than some disconnected ‘religious language’ that has little to do with where each of us really are.

Then IMHO you are morons who are unfit to offer advice about anything, let alone spirituality.

But I find it more likely, given your use of Myspace, that you’re trying to manipulate gullible youth.

Absent Diane Absent Diane 7:10 pm 05 Feb 07

Josh – how old do you guys believe the world is?

LifeCity LifeCity 6:18 pm 05 Feb 07

Wow… I am amazed we are being discussed.

Let me explain a couple things:

‘Shaping the future'(in original comment) – each one of us shapes the future, our own, those in our influence, those far beyond our direct influence.

LifeCity does seek to shape a better future. As a person that has worked in social work (secular based) our society is undeniably in pain through broken families, racial arrogance and ignorance just to begin with.

The ‘slogan’ of LifeCity is ‘Real People Real God Real Life’ – whether you like our style which is not traditional european (since when way European 18th century music superior to other cultural music?) but very modern Australian. Our heart is to be authentic – so often the church in general is quick to throw rocks but is often plastic and arrogant.

We are not perfect and you might not agree with our beliefs but that is the beauty of australian society. We can be different and even passionate about what we identify with but by and large we all get along well.

‘2 Launch’ – I find it curious this is something of controversy – I am 26, I have been a youth worker for years – the general crew that do come to LifeCity events are young. That is how I write all the time on the net, that is why we communicate like such. It is actually who we are. I guess when you text you use full words? Our heart is to speak Australian rather than some disconnected ‘religious language’ that has little to do with where each of us really are.

We work together with churches from numerous backgrounds from traditional catholics – to uniting and of course modern churches and everything in between.

We offer a different style that suits some people – if others like the more traditional hymn based services then that is cool. There are plenty of churches for them but for many of us we need something different and LifeCity is that for some.

4 life,

Josh

Oh.. and Anthony is a surfy lad that had that photo taken by an artistic photographer with his new baby. It is not my style either but that is who he is and that is cool with me. I think you will find a lot of similar photos in pro photographers galleries with Dad’s and bubs. I actually have one similar by the same professional photographer but I won’t post it. It is a little embarrassing.

TAD TAD 9:36 am 26 Jan 07

To each their own.

I grew up in a religious home and when I had the choice decided that it wasn’t for me.

Yes social awkward types are over represented in the church, but no more so than your average amateur drama group.

Thumper Thumper 8:37 pm 24 Jan 07

Can I add that I lived in US for three years and the evangelical Christian faith over there was actually quite odd, if not frightening at times…

Thumper Thumper 8:35 pm 24 Jan 07

Agreed.

What I have a problem with is evangelical American style churches popping up all over the place trying to brainwash kids into religion.

I once heard a very persuasive arguement about Hillsong and how they recruit people. Firstly they go for young females who, upon seeing lots of other young females, do the peer pressure thing and join. Of course, this leaves the young blokes out of the picture and all they want is to get their young inexperienced mits on a bit of boob. Thus they join.

Great marketing ploy.

Having said that, if one is inclined towards any religion, then why not just wander down to your local church. It’s not as if they are scarce.

I’m not pro religion, nor anti religion and can quite argue both sides having spent a long time studying anthropology and ancient beliefs and customs. Some people do need that hope for the future or after death or whatever. This is not a problem.

Myself, I’m still unconvinced but I don’t discount it, and thus don’t discount religion. If people want to believe in something greater then I see no problem with it.

Hey, in the end there has to be more to life than going to work five days a week and getting pissed on the weekend. In fact, I quite often have these discussions with my partner, a died in the wool pagan.

I used to believe in Steve Waugh, but he retired…

AD, you can flame away now 😉

GnT GnT 8:10 pm 24 Jan 07

I think some of the views expressed against organised religion demonstrate a complete lack of understanding of what it is all about. As simto said, there is no such organisation as “the church” and to lump the Exclusive Brethren in with more reputable denominations is unfair (which I think is the whole point of JB’s original post).

Christianity (at least the sort that I subscribe to) is not “blind faith”. I am constantly questioning my beliefs, and am encouraged to critically examine my life and my faith. Jesus taught to love everyone, which is not a message to sit back and enjoy my own self-importance, but a challenge to how I can live my life more meaningfully.

As for the argument about religious dogma foisted upon us as public policy, take this analogy: We as a society have decided murder is unacceptable. This is a moral view (which organised religion agrees with). You are not allowed to say “I don’t subscribe to this morality, so I should be allowed to murder whoever I want”. Abortion can be seen the same way.

emd emd 8:06 pm 24 Jan 07

So they’ve got a very amateur attempt at a website. Big deal. They don’t seem to be doing any harm. VY is right, get over it.

Chris S Chris S 4:29 pm 24 Jan 07

UB, I think you are on the right track, particulary considering the secret machinations of the Exclusive Brethren (who don’t believe in voting themselves) in getting up their preferred candidates in both Oz and NZ, and the unhealthy (in my view) influence of Hillsong and it’s franchises.

However, what people do in the privacy of their own homes is their business, and good luck to them if this is what keeps them going.

bonfire bonfire 3:43 pm 24 Jan 07

‘but many people find the support God gives them to be very important in their lives. It doesn’t make them weak; in fact, it makes tham stronger.’

which god ?

apollo ? mercury ? woden ?

or my favourite:

perkinus!

people who believe in any gods are mentally ill.

prayer is a form of self-delusion. like the losers who think listening to an anthony robbins tape will make them business tycoons.

Unbeliever Unbeliever 3:34 pm 24 Jan 07

Evangelical JB in terms of enthusiasm perhaps. A system of beliefs where people refuse to look critically at such can and does have very real repercussions for everyone else, particularly when said beliefs are imposed on the rest of us, whether we chose to belong to that ‘faith’ group or not. Eg, Abbott on abortion, Howard on stem cells, Pell on marriage equality, etc. These religious positions translated into public policy may not affect you or I, but think of others denied access to health services because of religious stigma – in the case of abortion – just for having sex.

I don’t care if people can have their blind faith, if they so chose, but I get upset when such stupidity is trotted out as an acceptable value system for the rest of us, remember the whole intelligent design fiasco? Particularly when those with blind faith are unwilling to look even theologically at their own religious dogma, let alone any critical examinations to those beliefs, e.g. women as priest in Catholicism. [end rant]

johnboy johnboy 3:13 pm 24 Jan 07

Sounding a bit evangelical yourself there UB.

Why do the beliefs of others, when not foisted on you, upset you so?

Unbeliever Unbeliever 2:54 pm 24 Jan 07

GnT if people find strength in believing in the notion of god as pushed out by and created by organised religion, that that’s their own stupidity. They could find strength or their ‘crutch’ in a bowl of apples for all I care. Strength resulting from a mere belief doesn’t validate that belief. Particularly since from an anthropological perspective it’s evident that organised religion and their ‘views’ of god are man-made, cultural constructs. There’s nothing real about it and no evidence that’s able to withstand externally-valid scrutiny has yet been provided to support these constructed views of god.

Vinnies, salvos, etc are businesses run by religious organisations and despite a lot of their work being supportive much of their stance on public health issues (as they try to influence public policies) are downright destructive and oppressive! Like prohibition on drug use, which makes little sense from a public health management perspective. Those would use their own version of god in this way are weak individuals trying to find a place for themselves in the world in the absence of any personal inner strengths to define their own characters and without an ability to lead a life at peace with the world around them. Can you say sheep!

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