Life without buses

johnboy 25 June 2010 64

So today, thanks to the fight between ACTION management and their militant drivers, we get a taste of what life would be like if the ACT didn’t spend millions on public transport.

How does your life today compare with other days?


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Thoroughly Smashed Thoroughly Smashed 12:45 pm 08 Jul 10

pete74au said :

Less Buses, the more car traffic there is on the roads, and all the effects that brings with it.

FIFY.

pete74au pete74au 11:38 am 08 Jul 10

Less Buses, the faster the traffic moves, the lower the impact on roads and the lower the particulate pollution. I wonder how much we saved in the $60M+ subsidy we give Action, coupled with was the air any more poluted with the addition transport – personally I doubt it.

p1 p1 8:21 pm 29 Jun 10

For reference, this website is the only place where I saw notification of this strike.

Back when I was at ANU I normally rode in, catching a bus only when rain, broken bike or other reasons made them a preference. In such a case a wouldn’t have seen any signs.

Mark Mark 5:22 pm 29 Jun 10

No difference. To me Canberra will always be a car city.

Hells_Bells74 Hells_Bells74 10:06 am 27 Jun 10

Yesterday? I skipped a day.. nice!

I see reading through I wasn’t the only one enjoying the peace.

Hells_Bells74 Hells_Bells74 9:16 am 27 Jun 10

I haven’t read through the comments yet, but I have to say. For me, yesterday was a tad wanky in organising.
But the peace at my house, oh lovely and the peace on the roads in general. Gosh they’re a cranky lot barrelling through Belconnen too (although I wouldn’t be too happy if they added two extra main stops but didn’t bump the timetable to match it).
Some bus drivers really just drive for themselves, a couple have really freaked me out lately. Oh well, put it down to a bad day, just a shame the bad days are most days now.

Davo111 Davo111 2:00 am 27 Jun 10

just stayed in bed all day :/

dvaey dvaey 7:27 pm 26 Jun 10

aussieboy said :

You’re a complete idiot!

Public transport is a crucial public good, something the cannot be just replaced on a whim.
Car ownership is extremely irresponsible, in terms of the environment and externalities from congestions, and you don’t seem to realise this.

Ive wondered, what do people without cars do when they have an emergency situation? Sure, not everyone needs a car all the time, but theres a good chance (especially if youre a uni student) that you know someone with a car. Which is more irresponsible, owning a car, or simply failing to turn up to work/exam? Im talking personal responsibility here, not society’s responsibility.

I dont have a landline, but if there was a problem with the mobile network and I couldnt call someone in an emergency, Id accept that as my own fault, for choosing not to have a backup plan. If you live in Canberra, and dont own a car, youre pretty much asking to end up in a situation like this from time-to-time.

aussieboy aussieboy 2:51 pm 26 Jun 10

neanderthalsis said :

Normal, rational people would have found a way. There was plenty of notice of this strike, plenty of opportunity to ask around the office to see if someone who lives near you can provide a lift, plenty of time to organise to drop the wife at her sewing circle, the kiddies at school so that you can use the trabbie for a day. Sounds like a lot of people just wanted to skive off for the day.

You’re a complete idiot!

Public transport is a crucial public good, something the cannot be just replaced on a whim.
Car ownership is extremely irresponsible, in terms of the environment and externalities from congestions, and you don’t seem to realise this.

The sexist comment doesn’t help your case much either.

Tooks Tooks 10:00 am 26 Jun 10

Devil_n_Disquiz said :

Took a lady from Condor to Convention Centre and it was $58.00

No, you took a lady from CondEr. You know, that suburb named after the man, not the large bird?

taninaus taninaus 7:16 am 26 Jun 10

Besides – there is little financial incentive for ACTION to run a service just for students and children as they are on subsidised or free fares anyway – the adult workers are the ones contributing to the bottom line and as Very Busy said very few of these would catch a bus home.

Personally – the total ban was a corageous move by management – the TWU have always been a bit over the top with demands at these times and while drivers do have a tough job they have always come out OK in previous bargaining. I can’t believe that staff get paid almost full time to be workplace union activitiests – that is incredibly generous!

Devil_n_Disquiz Devil_n_Disquiz 7:03 am 26 Jun 10

Yeah well. City to Gilmore down the Parkway would do it. Esp if it was on the night time rate. Effectively taking you halfway to Belconnen before starting to head south.

Fare increase is explained by copy and pasting from the ABC website 🙂

Taxi fares in Canberra will increase by 2.48 per cent from 1 July 2010.

The flagfall for standard hirings will increase to $4.50 while the rate per kilometre between 6 am and 9 pm on weekdays will go up to $1.80.

The kilometre rate at other times will be $2.07.

wooo hooooo I’m getting a 1.24% pay rise.

Monster of the Deep Monster of the Deep 11:40 pm 25 Jun 10

dvaey said :

I was just thinking, didnt we see a story about cab fares going up to $2/km? If you paid $80, thats almost 40km of driving. Google maps says you can do 39km if you travel from Banks to Mitchell, via Monaro Highway, so if you got charged 40km to civic, you got ripped off. (by the way, these figures are worked out on the new, increased cabfare)

Civic to Gilmore, to be a little more exact. The guy took us down the Parkway – we’d just moved Southside and didn’t know our way around. It was late at night too – I don’t really know how fares are calculated, but the fucker had the gall to tell us AFTER he’d dropped us off that it would have been cheaper and faster to go via the Monaro Highway. Gee, thanks for that.

Prospector Prospector 11:00 pm 25 Jun 10

That ‘The Canberra Times’ sensationalist prediction of “traffic chaos” on the roads didn’t materialise today is no surprise.

As happens every winter, a lot of people are out of Canberra to escape the winter cold (especially now that Parliament has finished for now) and Friday is usually a quieter day on the roads and for ACTION anyway. Many senior high school students have finished their exams and finished with school for this term …….

WonderfulWorld WonderfulWorld 10:53 pm 25 Jun 10

I was surprised at the amount of car spaces available at 845. Usually if I’m not in by 815 it is too late. I think it is because the parks near my work are free and usually taken up by people who park there for free then catch a bus to their workplace.

arescarti42 arescarti42 9:03 pm 25 Jun 10

Lazy I said :

shaneb said :

Students are taking exams at the moment.

Rumours from ANU are that many students have missed their morning exams because they didn’t know about the buses. Luckily most of todays exams are first and second year courses and the students can take the courses again (albeit at the cost of six months work and several hundred dollars in tuition fees).

Sensationalist much? if a uni student can’t work their way around a bus strike I am not sure they deserve the degree anyway.

Not really, considering that ANU students can’t work full time, many can’t:

-Afford to own a car
-Are forced to live in the outer suburbs where accommodation is cheaper, and thus can’t ride a bike or walk to the ANU
-Can’t afford $100 for a taxi from the outer suburbs to the city, and back again.
-Are from interstate or overseas and having lived in Canberra as little as 6 months don’t know people they can catch a lift with.

Short of standing out on major city bound roads and trying to hitch hike, I’m not sure what a lot of people would do.

NickD NickD 6:28 pm 25 Jun 10

There seemed to be more traffic than normal and I had to pay $10 + petrol to drive to work rather than $5 worth of bus tickets.

troll-sniffer troll-sniffer 6:01 pm 25 Jun 10

random said :

I take it that your walk in doesn’t take three hours, then.

As an environmentally responsible citizen of the world I have ensured that my place of abode is within walking distance of my workplace. That was a conscious decision I took years ago. So no, through good management, it doesn’t!

Monster of the Deep Monster of the Deep 5:31 pm 25 Jun 10

ThatGuy said :

Again, there was more than enough notice to discuss this with your employer and decide whether they believe it to be worthwhile reimbursing you or giving you the day off. It should not be assumed by anybody that they can simply call up on the day and say “not coming in, no buses”.

I was just commenting on the price of taxis across Canberra. I wasn’t whinging, as I don’t catch buses and didn’t chuck a sickie.

dvaey dvaey 5:14 pm 25 Jun 10

Devil_n_Disquiz said :

hahahahaha only idiots who allow themselves to get ripped off would pay $80 for a taxi from Tugg to City. Your ‘experience’ was an exception. Def not the norm. Shoulda stayed awake 🙂

I was just thinking, didnt we see a story about cab fares going up to $2/km? If you paid $80, thats almost 40km of driving. Google maps says you can do 39km if you travel from Banks to Mitchell, via Monaro Highway, so if you got charged 40km to civic, you got ripped off. (by the way, these figures are worked out on the new, increased cabfare)

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