29 December 2010

lost dog- kaleen

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I have lost a black staffy near murchison st in kaleen… his name is jack. If anyone has see him please let me know. He went missing 29th december at about two thirty.. he is wearing a stud collar with jack black written on it…

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hi, saw black staffy again. he has a brown thick studded collar and runs around with a rotty. saw him at superbarn/kaleen plaza..

maybe he’s yours? if not, maybe a regularly escaping pet!

I think i’ve seen him. He frequents the drains / grassed areas in Kaleen. I go there with my staffy and he’s always around. I’ve seen him at both ends of Kaleen – Plaza and IGA end. Good luck finding him

I don’t even want to get into the ‘dangerous dog’ issue in here…Not until people view the dog attack reports (actual reports not media hype

You mean those reports saying Pit Bulls account for more than half the fatal dog attacks in the US (for the last 5 or so years)?

[Waiting for a bite in 5…4…3…2……]

hey capt raaf, hope your eyebrow is suitable cocked

http://www.abc.net.au/news/stories/2011/01/04/3105917.htm

Sara5454..

Have you found your dog?

I just seen a black staffy roaming around Skarddon St in Kaleen. No collar.

I seen him walking along Daintree Cresent as well. He didnt respond to Jack when I called him.

Hope this helps.

JustThinking5:44 pm 02 Jan 11

Hiya,
Is your dog registered and micro-chipped??
Keep checking the pound/shelter sites,,they post and put up pics each day or so.
Hope you find your boy soon…

Being the escape artists they are it might be work digging down a foot under your fences and cementing (or dig down and place chicken wire,,,which I don’t like as they rip off nails) Raising the fences (if he is a jumper) We bought some nice lattice secondhand and raised the fences by 2foot…

I don’t even want to get into the ‘dangerous dog’ issue in here…Not until people view the dog attack reports (actual reports not media hype)

I saw a human kill someone once… Lets euthanise the lot. How dare people breed them

Captain RAAF9:46 pm 31 Dec 10

Spot the fake!

Beagle mauls child to death!

Staffordshire Terrier mauls child to death!

Now which one would you believe without any hesitation and which one would see you cock an eyebrow?

All dogs are descended from wolves, some breeds just have trouble letting go of the past. I trust the missing staffy has met a quick and painless end.

I can’t believe the people on here tarring all Staffys with the same brush because of a few incidents. I have a vested interest as I have a Staffy, but if looked after and raised right they are absolutely wonderful dogs. I’d expect Jack falls into this category. My staffy is an absolute sook- a cat would be a better guard dog then her frankly and she just loves everybody. She is gentle, very loyal, and very good around kids.

Invariably, Staffies get a bad name because of those that are cross bred with things like American Pit Bulls etc or because there is a minority that don’t look after their dog and raise them correctly. Like many a breed of dog, if a Staffy isn’t raised well and cared for then it has the potential to be a nasty dog. But to rule a line through every staffy because of a few idiots. Its almost invariably the owner, not the dog that created the problem in the first place.

Good luck in finding your staffy- I hope he returns safe and well!

“but I’d seen the cat in question around many dogs, and he was generally able to hold up his own, I saw a Great Dane run scared from him once …”

Heh, heh. Despite their fearsome appearance and scary bark, Great Danes are the biggest wusses around and are pretty useless watchdogs for that reason. A neighbour had one which used to come into my yard looking for a quiet spot to have a nap. She bolted every time I opened the back door – and I had a treat in my hand to give her! She was about as scary as a sheep, and came to my house because they also had a bossy little Jack Russell which totally dominated her.

It’s distressing to lose a pet. And its hard to know what is effective in finding them. Do everything you can and hope for the best. When my Major Mitchell Cockatoo escaped, I’d informed the RSPCA, the Pound and the local vets; placed an ad with the Crimes; and put up notices near the local shops. Eventually I got calls from people who sighted him. At that stage he was hungry (being useless at foraging for himself), squawking like a banshee, and being pestered by the local magpies/kurrajongs. He wasn’t going far, just from one Lyneham/O’Connor street to another. Eventually, after two weeks on the run, a kind-hearted soul caught him and called me up. So pets can come back. Good luck in your search.

xperfect_darkx1:30 pm 31 Dec 10

Tip: some dogs don’t like cats, so it’s safe to keep them separated. Maybe if you had a secure yard, your cat would be alive. More importantly, if the moron staffy owner had control of the dog, your cat would be alive. Once again, you should be blaming the owner, not the breed.

This was during the lovely period right after our house burnt down in the 03 fires, unfortunately the fence didn’t make it, and we didn’t see much point putting one up around the smoldering rubble. The rental house we had just relocated to didn’t allow cats, so the cats continued to live at the old house with the neighbours taking care of them at night.

And the dog didn’t just attack a cat, he also attacked two people and a small dog the same day, it wasn’t just the dog disliking cats. Also, the dogs had escaped from a yard a suburb over, much like the OP’s dog.

It’s probably in someones backyard, ripping up their cat or small dog like a chew toy. The one that did to my cat was ‘a lovely dog and would never hurt anyone’ too. But he still bit me when I pulled my lifeless cat out of it’s jaws, and my dad, and a small dog down the road later that day before the pound came and captured him. Lovely dog indeed.

I see, you’ve encountered one out-of-control staffy, so they’re all bad. Good call.

Sure, some Staffy’s might be alright, but I’d seen the cat in question around many dogs, and he was generally able to hold up his own, I saw a Great Dane run scared from him once, and I believe that if it was another type of dog that had come into my back yard that day, that maybe I would still have a cat.

Tip: some dogs don’t like cats, so it’s safe to keep them separated. Maybe if you had a secure yard, your cat would be alive. More importantly, if the moron staffy owner had control of the dog, your cat would be alive. Once again, you should be blaming the owner, not the breed.

xperfect_darkx12:23 pm 31 Dec 10

It’s probably in someones backyard, ripping up their cat or small dog like a chew toy. The one that did to my cat was ‘a lovely dog and would never hurt anyone’ too. But he still bit me when I pulled my lifeless cat out of it’s jaws, and my dad, and a small dog down the road later that day before the pound came and captured him. Lovely dog indeed.

Sure, some Staffy’s might be alright, but I’d seen the cat in question around many dogs, and he was generally able to hold up his own, I saw a Great Dane run scared from him once, and I believe that if it was another type of dog that had come into my back yard that day, that maybe I would still have a cat.

I hope you find your missing Staffy – I know I’d be missing mine terribly. I’ll keep an eye out for Jack during my travels.

Staffies are always confused with Pit Bulls which is a bit sad. I have owned two Staffies in the past,not good watch dogs as they just want to be friends with everyone.

Hope Jack is found..goodluck

“I never understand how people can just lose dogs, especially smaller dogs. Surely a secure yard is a prerequisite for owning one.”

I thought the same thing, until my family acquired a little old terrier-ish female bitser from the Animal Rescue Foundation (ARF!) 5 years ago. I thought we had a secure yard, but our little girl could dig tunnels better than any WWII POW. She could dig holes under fences that couldn’t be believed. At least, I couldn’t believe them. I probably spent over a thousand bucks on cement and embedded wire fortifying our backyard fenceline from…ummm…extrusion, I guess. 🙂

She died of old age a couple of months ago. Me and my wife and kids all cried, and we miss her a lot. She’s buried in the back garden next to my tomato plants and one of her regular escape routes.

………….also lost over the Xmas break (back in 2001) was my 6 pack stomach …. I put out a lost and found but got nothin.

Umm, Parle, are you sure you haven’t got Staffys confused with American Pit Bulls ? You might want to check your facts.

I was told by a dog trainer once that Staffys are the unbeatable Harry Houdinis of the dog world, which is why they go missing so often. Nothing to do with the owner not doing the right thing.

Sara, I hope you find Jack soon – I’m sure he is a very cool dog.

Pommy bastard6:59 pm 30 Dec 10

Although individual differences in personality exist, common traits exist throughout the Staffords. Due to its breeding, the modern dog is known for its character of indomitable courage, high intelligence, and tenacity. This, coupled with its affection for its friends, its off-duty quietness and trustworthy stability, make it a foremost all-purpose dog. It has been said that “No breed is more loving with its family”

The breed is naturally muscular and may appear intimidating; however, because of their natural fondness for people, most Staffords are temperamentally ill-suited for guard or attack-dog training. Staffordshire Bull Terrier puppies are very easy to house train.

Staffordshire Bull Terriers are big-hearted and usually affectionate towards humans. They express their affection through jumping up, nuzzling and pawing, and even when trained can still be ‘fussy’ with owners and others. Staffordshires are perhaps not suitable pets for those who prefer quiet, reserved dogs. Staffordshires are notably adaptable in terms of changing home or even owners, and unfortunately this can make them easy prey for dognappers

The Staffordshire Bull Terrier is often subject to breed bans worldwide that target the Bull and Terrier family. However, Australia, England, Scotland, Wales, Northern Ireland and New Zealand make clear a distinction between the American Pit Bull Terrier and Staffordshire Bull Terrier and thus are exempted.

Anecdotally, agree with Jethro’s comment @ #7 – have noticed quite a few ‘lost staffie’ signs around recently (Gowrie/Chisholm area). Does this dog breed have more highly developed Houdini skills than others, or is there something more sinister going on?

This Found ad looks promising, although a distance away.

Found Dog’s Details
Dog Details
Tag Number: Sex: MALE
Name: Main Breed: STAFFORDSHIRE BULL TERRIER

Main Colour: BLACK
Main Attribute:
Finder’s Contact Details
Last Name: BASS Other Names: BILL
Suburb: RED HILL

Home Phone: 0410 615 756 Work Phone:
Mobile Phone: Email Address:
Notes/Comments
Notes: COLLAR BLACK WITH 4 ROWS OF STUDS
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this breed is capable of killing small children

As is pretty much any breed you can think of.

past experience with the bogans who buy bred to fight dogs and think they’re harmless and lovable, oh yes!

I’ve never heard of Staffies being used for fighting (doesn’t mean they haven’t – but it’s a strange choice). Any dog can be harmless and lovable and any dog can be dangerous.

tooks, Staffordshire Bull Terriers will pack up very well and become different dogs in that opportunity, I don’t think it’s possible to predict ‘doubt’ in the potential behaviour of this breed to the point that it would mitigate the risk.

Again, any breed will “pack up very well” and again, you’re blaming the breed rather than the behaviour of the owner. It all depends on its upbringing and training. Obviously a cretin can own any breed and mistreat it, leave it to roam the streets etc. Again, it all comes back to the owner. Staffies are known for their good temperements.

*Disclaimer: I’m not a Staffy owner, nor have I ever owned one. I am against “breed blaming” when pretty much every “bad” dog belongs to a bad owner.

well lilli, you know what’s horrible?; this breed is capable of killing small children, responsible Staffordshire breeders advise this, bad experience – no, past experience with the bogans who buy bred to fight dogs and think they’re harmless and lovable, oh yes!

tooks, Staffordshire Bull Terriers will pack up very well and become different dogs in that opportunity, I don’t think it’s possible to predict ‘doubt’ in the potential behaviour of this breed to the point that it would mitigate the risk.

sepi, then again other people spend the money and manage to secure their dangerous animals properly..

If I saw this dog unmanaged and it so much as growled at me I’d put all 17 in it,.. others have.

Staffy’s are lovely dogs, but I would never own one. They go missing at a much higher rate than pretty much any other breed.

I won’t say why this is the case.

sometimes your in a rush and dont close the gate properly 🙁 a staffy is more likely to lick you to death than attack unless its been badly mistreated all its life. they make appalling guard dogs hehe

Sometimes other people leave the gate open – hello ACTEW…..

Or the dog sneaks out the front door…hello demented relatives….

Or sometimes, even the most secure fence develops a sag, or a hole underneath.

I hope that it doesn’t hurt anyone or kill anything before it is able to be recovered.

I’ve always found staffies to be very good with people (to the point where they are generally not the greatest guard dogs) and other animals. I doubt it’s on a killing spree.

I never understand how people can just lose dogs, especially smaller dogs. Surely a secure yard is a prerequisite for owning one.

I hope you get him back safe and well.

parle, that’s a pretty horrible thing to say to someone who is missing a family pet. Perhaps you have had a bad experience with the staffy breed in the past, but it is not fair to tar the entire breed with the same brush. I hope you are never in the position to have to search for a lost pet.

Best of luck finding your dog, Sara.

I hope that it doesn’t hurt anyone or kill anything before it is able to be recovered.

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