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MADE IN AUSTRALIA?

By Brianna 18 January 2011 28

Not long now until 26 January.  Australia Day.  Can any of my fellow rioters tell me where in Canberra I could possibly buy a hat, T-shirt or any other items with the Australian flag on them that are actually made in Australia?

Everything I’ve seen so far has “made in China” stamped on it.

What’s Your opinion?


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Captain RAAF 8:04 am 20 Jan 11

Jethro,

Here’s some edjamacating for you…..

Example one, an envelope used in New Guinea during WW2 providing instructions in Pidgin for the locals should they come across any downed airmen….looks pretty blue to me.

http://www.google.com.au/imgres?imgurl=http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2300/2342233487_ab00d0f461.jpg&imgrefurl=http://flickr.com/photos/adelaide_archivist/2342233487&usg=__688fhHQjXwRoymsjPmgXQQwf7C8=&h=320&w=500&sz=110&hl=en&start=46&zoom=1&tbnid=nejMx4MxLdT-yM:&tbnh=133&tbnw=208&ei=FUw3TbyAO4bovQOn16G_Aw&prev=/images%3Fq%3DAustralian%2BFlag%2BWW2%26um%3D1%26hl%3Den%26biw%3D1271%26bih%3D799%26tbs%3Disch:10%2C1482&um=1&itbs=1&iact=hc&vpx=140&vpy=335&dur=567&hovh=133&hovw=208&tx=113&ty=102&oei=B0w3TcWrCIqSuwP00sDZAw&esq=3&page=3&ndsp=22&ved=1t:429,r:10,s:46&biw=1271&bih=799

Here’s a sweethearts flag from, shock horror, WW1!

http://www.google.com.au/imgres?imgurl=http://www.militaria.name/thumbnail.php%3Fpic%3Duplimg/bulk_img_mb100001_1b640cf9039303044a912e1762af55c1_image0.jpg%26w%3D500%26sq%3DY%26b%3DY&imgrefurl=http://www.militaria.name/auction_details.php%3Fname%3DAustralian-WW1-Era-cloth-with-the-Australian-Flag-design-in-colour-Vgc%26auction_id%3D492369&usg=__ARzKMFf9fj8FW-DHXHYOMTtwfGo=&h=500&w=500&sz=53&hl=en&start=113&zoom=1&tbnid=ZP_Gb00-T_ehWM:&tbnh=146&tbnw=141&ei=LU03Tc7FA4PuvQPo_fXdAw&prev=/images%3Fq%3DAustralian%2BFlag%2BWW2%26um%3D1%26hl%3Den%26biw%3D1271%26bih%3D799%26tbs%3Disch:10%2C3306&um=1&itbs=1&iact=hc&vpx=127&vpy=379&dur=102&hovh=225&hovw=225&tx=108&ty=101&oei=B0w3TcWrCIqSuwP00sDZAw&esq=5&page=6&ndsp=23&ved=1t:429,r:6,s:113&biw=1271&bih=799

And another from the New Guinea campaign during WW2.

http://www.google.com.au/imgres?imgurl=http://www.psywarrior.com/pm29WWIIOB.jpg&imgrefurl=http://www.psywarrior.com/PSYOPOrgWW2Pac.html&usg=__K9hdfTockEatIFiz_6hiMSqGtuM=&h=1000&w=918&sz=67&hl=en&start=106&zoom=1&tbnid=GVTMu9uPtZO68M:&tbnh=154&tbnw=134&ei=G1E3Tci1NoGivgOcr4m_Aw&prev=/images%3Fq%3DAustralian%2BFlag%2BRAAF%2BWW2%2Bkittyhawk%26um%3D1%26hl%3Den%26biw%3D1271%26bih%3D799%26tbs%3Disch:10%2C3420&um=1&itbs=1&iact=hc&vpx=128&vpy=99&dur=2079&hovh=234&hovw=215&tx=118&ty=116&oei=3VA3Tf2kL46uuQPvpM27Aw&esq=6&page=6&ndsp=24&ved=1t:429,r:0,s:106&biw=1271&bih=799

Sure appears to be popular on the home front and for use in propaganda. Next time I’m at the AWM, i’ll do some digging around for some color pics. I do know of a few aircraft (RAAF) that displayed the current ANF, a Halifax and a Lancaster, and they carried it over occupied Europe, is that enough for you?

spinact 12:03 am 20 Jan 11

LSWCHP said :

Mr Waffle said :

LSWCHP said :

However…

http://www.australiaday.org.au/toolkit/page171.asp has the following advice…

1. the Australian National Flag and representations of it should always be shown, represented or used in a dignified manner
2. it should not be defaced by way of printing or illustrations, or masked by other objects, and all symbols parts of the Flag should be identifiable
3. the flags should be treated with respect

And it also states that…

“A loyalty to Australia and pride in the flag can be expressed through play. On Australia Day myriad forms of the Australian National Flag other than the large ‘official’ flag are used for many purposes.”

But….to illustrate this advice about respecting the flag in a playful way, it has a pic of 4 bogan chicks, one with tongue protruding, wearing “Aussie Aussie Aussie” T-shirts and with all of them wearing the flag stuffed around the back of their jeans so they can plant their arses on it every time they sit down.

Those girls are almost break rule 2 by obscuring the flag with muffin tops

LSWCHP 10:14 pm 19 Jan 11

Mr Waffle said :

LSWCHP said :

Every time you dress in the flag, or sit on it, or put it on your head, you are showing the utmost disrespect to over 100,000 people who have given their lives for you. Please think about that, and then don’t do it.

My great grandfather was one of those people, and both my parents served as well. Which always makes the whole overly-dramatic “THEY DIED FOR THIS FLAG” spiel incredibly annoying.

What I wrote was not melodrama, it was an honestly and deeply held personal opinion formed during and after a quite a few years service of my own. I realise that I’m in the minority, but there’s no melodrama, play acting or bullshit about what I wrote. It came from the heart.

However…

http://www.australiaday.org.au/toolkit/page171.asp has the following advice…

1. the Australian National Flag and representations of it should always be shown, represented or used in a dignified manner
2. it should not be defaced by way of printing or illustrations, or masked by other objects, and all symbols parts of the Flag should be identifiable
3. the flags should be treated with respect

And it also states that…

“A loyalty to Australia and pride in the flag can be expressed through play. On Australia Day myriad forms of the Australian National Flag other than the large ‘official’ flag are used for many purposes.”

But….to illustrate this advice about respecting the flag in a playful way, it has a pic of 4 bogan chicks, one with tongue protruding, wearing “Aussie Aussie Aussie” T-shirts and with all of them wearing the flag stuffed around the back of their jeans so they can plant their arses on it every time they sit down.

So pride in the flag may now be officially expressed by sitting on it. And what I thought were some reasonable thoughts about the dignity of the flag and its relationship to a large amount of personal sacrifice result in feelings of “annoyance” and accusations of “melodrama” on the part of readers.

Bugger me, I’ve just realised that I’ve gone from being in the minority to being an adherent of a lost cause. I’ll keep my thoughts on this topic to myself in the future.

Ummm…except when I see those flag draped cocks beating people up and smashing things. You’ve gotta draw the line somewhere.

Jethro 2:45 pm 19 Jan 11

Captain RAAF said :

You need to get out more, Jethro! Plenty of photo’s around of Aussies in WW2 fighting under the current flag. Red Ensign? Not from what I’ve seen unless they were in the Merchant Navy!

Blue Ensign flag became our national flag in 1954. Until 1941 it was illegal for private citizens to even fly the blue ensign, which was reserved for official Commonwealth purposes or naval purposes. 90% of flags flown by the Australian army in WW2 were Red Ensign.

I know all those black and white photos of the war are very convincing…

Lin 1:48 pm 19 Jan 11

Thoroughly Smashed said :

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F4AchHTN-XQ

Hahahaha! That’s the reason why I don’t leave the house on Strayaday. Never was a fan of flag waving. And am always way too tempted to ask those yelling that ‘Straya is the best effing country in the world’ which other countries they have visited. Apart from Bali, obviously. I think we should change it to ‘Take the p!ss out of Australia day’, which is more in line with the Aussie character.

Anywho, if you really can’t resist dressing up as an ANF, I second the Australian Choice store.

Captain RAAF 12:01 pm 19 Jan 11

Jethro said :

Mr Waffle said :

My great grandfather was one of those people, and both my parents served as well. Which always makes the whole overly-dramatic “THEY DIED FOR THIS FLAG” spiel incredibly annoying. They served for this country, for all of us.

You need to get out more, Jethro! Plenty of photo’s around of Aussies in WW2 fighting under the current flag. Red Ensign? Not from what I’ve seen unless they were in the Merchant Navy!

Agreed.

Furthermore, for the most part, Australian soldiers actually didn’t fight under the current flag. During World War One the Union Jack was the dominant flag, with the Red Ensign flag occassionally being used.

In World War Two, soldiers mostly fought under the Red Ensign, not the current flag.

The first war that Australian soliders fought under the Blue Ensign was Vietnam.

It is easy to spout clap-trap like ‘my grandfather fought for that flag’, without actually knowing too much about it.

fgzk 11:14 am 19 Jan 11

LSWCHP ”I realise that there’s probably not too many people give much of a shit about things like this these days, but for some of us, or at least for me and a couple of my mates, it’s pretty important.

‘Whats more important to you, your mates or the Australian flag?

Jivrashia 10:43 am 19 Jan 11

LSWCHP said :

Every time you dress in the flag, or sit on it, or put it on your head, you are showing the utmost disrespect

What was the name of that bogan who dressed herself up in the ANF… and then wanted to join British politics?

Probably doesn’t matter…

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