MADE IN AUSTRALIA?

LSWCHP said :

Every time you dress in the flag, or sit on it, or put it on your head, you are showing the utmost disrespect to over 100,000 people who have given their lives for you. Please think about that, and then don’t do it.

My great grandfather was one of those people, and both my parents served as well. Which always makes the whole overly-dramatic “THEY DIED FOR THIS FLAG” spiel incredibly annoying. They served for this country, for all of us. And the flag is a symbol of this country, a symbol for… all of us. When I want to represent the fact I am an Australian, I will use this flag to do it. If that means having it on a piece of clothing or waving it in a parade or whatever, that is my way of representing my country, and I will bloody well do it. Having pride in your country is not a crime.

ps, I have a small back pillow with the Australian flag on it. OH SNAP SO DISRESPECTFUL. Guess who bought it for me? My parents. I’m pretty sure their combined 42 years of service to this nation gives them the right to be “bovinely ignorant fwits and fools”.

Pork Hunt said :

@ #13 LSWCHP

Would you really consider a beach towel printed or woven to “look like a flag” an actual flag?

What about planting your arse on a sticker picturing the “flag” on say, an esky lid?

My personal view? Towels, pillows, swimsuits, clothing and other things shouldn’t be manufactured in the form of the flag. If you find such things, don’t buy them. They’re not actual flags, but the image is still significant.

If you have an actual flag, don’t wear it or use it as anything other than a flag. And if you want to put a flag sticker on the top of your esky, that’s great. But for Chrissake, show some respect, and don’t sit on it. It’s not just a pretty picture, it’s a representation of Something Pretty Important.

I realise that there’s probably not too many people give much of a shit about things like this these days, but for some of us, or at least for me and a couple of my mates, it’s pretty important.

bigfeet said :

LSWCHP said :

Show respect for the flag, but there is no need to make up customs and etiquette surrounding it.

When I joined the army in 1979 the story I was given about how to treat the ANF was pretty much as described on the referenced website, so that’s where my point of view comes from. It’s likely that the blokes who gave me the story took their ideas from some US document. If so, then good on them.

On one memorable day, being a slack and idle digger, I treated the ANF with less than due respect (dropped it on the ground) in view of my RSM who had evidently read Title 4, resulting in much marching up and down by yours truly. I certainly got a better deal than another bloke who dissed (to use the modern parlance) our regimental colours.

And I stand by my comments about hoods who vandalise and riot while draped in the flag. No sympathy for those clowns.

@ #13 LSWCHP

I agree with almost all that you say and I can’t believe that there are people in this country who want to change the flag.
As you say, there are over 100,000 reasons why it cannot be changed in my opinion.

I do raise one point though in regard to the piece of cloth that is an actual flag.

Would you really consider a beach towel printed or woven to “look like a flag” an actual flag?

What about planting your arse on a sticker picturing the “flag” on say, an esky lid?

LSWCHP said :

For the uneducated, and there are probably a lot of them, there is a substantial body of etiquette associated with the respect that must be shown to the flag. Have a look at http://www.diggerhistory.info/pages-flags/etiquette.htm for a good lesson on how our flag should be correctly treated. Note near the end where it says “The Australian National Flag should never touch anything beneath it – ground, floor, water, or merchandise. When the flag is lowered, no part of it should touch the ground or any other object; it should be received by waiting hands and arms.” In other words, it must be treated with the utmost reverence

You do realise that site you link to actually has no relevence to any “substantial body of etiquette associated with the respect that must be shown to the flag” don’t you?

Surely you are aware that it is basically a ‘cut and paste’ of ‘ Title 4 of the United States Code’ (commonly known as the US Flag Code) with term ‘US Flag’ replaced with ‘Australian Flag’ where necessary?

Show respect for the flag, but there is no need to make up customs and etiquette surrounding it.

Try this site for the true story:

http://www.itsanhonour.gov.au/symbols/flag.cfm#flag

Captain RAAF said :

georgesgenitals said :

Dressing up in Australian flag clothing is probably the second most bogan thing there is. The first is draping an Australian flag around your shoulders.

The worst part is the people who do this overseas, thus giving others the impression that Australians are complete tools.

The only time it is appropriate to drape the ANF on your person is when it’s on top of the box your body comes home in!

Captain RAAF is absolutely correct. The flag (whether you like the design or not) is the one unifying symbol of our nation, and a lot of people have suffered and died for what that symbol represents. That symbol, and those people, deserve the utmost respect.

For the uneducated, and there are probably a lot of them, there is a substantial body of etiquette associated with the respect that must be shown to the flag. Have a look at http://www.diggerhistory.info/pages-flags/etiquette.htm for a good lesson on how our flag should be correctly treated. Note near the end where it says “The Australian National Flag should never touch anything beneath it – ground, floor, water, or merchandise. When the flag is lowered, no part of it should touch the ground or any other object; it should be received by waiting hands and arms.” In other words, it must be treated with the utmost reverence.

Every time you dress in the flag, or sit on it, or put it on your head, you are showing the utmost disrespect to over 100,000 people who have given their lives for you. Please think about that, and then don’t do it.

These bovinely ignorant fuckwits and fools who run around on Australia Day draped in the flag, and who then use it as a beachtowel for the comfort of their stupid fat arses deserve a good spanking. Those fuckwits and fools who run around on Australia Day draped in the flag, and who then use it as an excuse to beat up people of a different race or creed deserve…well…they deserve more than a spanking.

Captain RAAF said:

The only time it is appropriate to drape the ANF on your person is when it’s on top of the box your body comes home in!

As opposed to being draped over the box your father came in…

georgesgenitals said :

Dressing up in Australian flag clothing is probably the second most bogan thing there is. The first is draping an Australian flag around your shoulders.

The worst part is the people who do this overseas, thus giving others the impression that Australians are complete tools.

Sort of agree. I think it’s a real shame the most obvious displays of so-called patriotism are aggressive and ugly (i.e. southern cross tattoos and wearing the flag as a cape). We might have plenty to prove as a country but it doesn’t mean we need to prove our Australian-ness to each other.

Changing the flag is a whole other issue – although you can’t knock people for displaying it on Australia Day.

Captain RAAF said :

georgesgenitals said :

Dressing up in Australian flag clothing is probably the second most bogan thing there is. The first is draping an Australian flag around your shoulders.

The worst part is the people who do this overseas, thus giving others the impression that Australians are complete tools.

The only time it is appropriate to drape the ANF on your person is when it’s on top of the box your body comes home in!

Absolutely. A bit of perspective is a good thing.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F4AchHTN-XQ

I have nothing against wearing the flag or draping it over yourself – can be very handy when overseas to distinguish yourself from Americans. The act itself isn’t so bad, it’s just that the people who usually do it are very bogan and act like knobs.

A very ugly trend that is becoming more popular in Australia. Used to be just the poms and americans that went around looking like tools with their flags all over them.

georgesgenitals said :

Dressing up in Australian flag clothing is probably the second most bogan thing there is. The first is draping an Australian flag around your shoulders.

The worst part is the people who do this overseas, thus giving others the impression that Australians are complete tools.

The only time it is appropriate to drape the ANF on your person is when it’s on top of the box your body comes home in!

Dressing up in Australian flag clothing is probably the second most bogan thing there is. The first is draping an Australian flag around your shoulders.

The worst part is the people who do this overseas, thus giving others the impression that Australians are complete tools.

hahhahahhaha baahahhahaha excuse me whilst I pick myself up off the floor…. Sorry no disrespect but this has been happening to Indigenous artwork since the nine noble men walk out of Arnhem land and decided to reproduce artwork for non-Indgenous people… Only way to make it in Australia is to make it yourself…

You could always get a “made in australia” tattoo. Unfortunately, you would then also become an insufferable wanker, but hey, go patriotism and all that jazz.

But yes, Australian Choice in the canberra centre does good stuff. Recommend them as well.

Probably “Australian Choice ” – the Australian souvenirs shop in the Canberra Centre, on the ground floor near Coffee Guru and Platypus. I think everything in there is Australian made. It’s more expensive, of course, but good quality.

I thought it was only the chinese that celebrated it anyway