Maintenance of ACT Government car parks

davo101 said :

watto23 said :

Happy to spend money on light rail, just make it rapid not another slow service. If there is provision for a non stop Gungahlin-Civic service plus and all stops service, then fine. Otherwise its a waste of money.

That would be using the special hover trams then? Or perhaps building a duplicate line for an extra $300 million or so.

There are lots of ways to do this. But another slow public transport service is not what we need. You can easily add a overtake or additional rail at stations, or build a bus rapid transit network or something else. Unlike all the other naysayers I’m trying to be objective and creative.

jcitizen said :

Leon said :

Hosinator said :

No, I’d rather they spent the money on health, education, public transport infrastructure and parks.

The road network already reaches 100% of Canberra’s homes, but the walking and cycling network connects to only 50%.

We wouldn’t need so much parking if more of our streets had footpaths so we could more easily walk to schools, shops and other local places.

If cyclists registered their bikes we could put more paths in and at the same time we could put some cameras in to fine them when they totally ignore the bike paths and choose to use the roads when they totally ignore the road rules.

Have you worked out the cost of administrating this? I bet you haven’t. Also these comments have become so ho hum. No research, no statistics, just personal bias, and totally ignoring that it is people who ignore road rules. People ignore road rules when driving too. I read a survey that was done on a main road with a red light camera and yes it proved SOME people cycling did run the red light, but guess what, so did some people driving cars as well, and guess what, the figures were about the same for each. So why didn’t you mention the cars that do this too, or doesn’t this suit your prejudice. The effect of the difference between cars and bikes that run red lights is huge though. If a person on a bike runs a read light and gets hit (but because they are the vulnerable road user most, if they value their life, will check it is safe to do so first) it is their own life in the balance here. But if a car runs a red light they are likely to put others in danger, which a bike doesn’t have the same ability to do. But this logic, and no matter how many times it is pointed out (and it has been pointed out MANY MANY times) means nothing for blinkered prejudice. So I expect what I wrote will not change your opinion at all.

Leon said :

Hosinator said :

No, I’d rather they spent the money on health, education, public transport infrastructure and parks.

The road network already reaches 100% of Canberra’s homes, but the walking and cycling network connects to only 50%.

We wouldn’t need so much parking if more of our streets had footpaths so we could more easily walk to schools, shops and other local places.

If cyclists registered their bikes we could put more paths in and at the same time we could put some cameras in to fine them when they totally ignore the bike paths and choose to use the roads when they totally ignore the road rules.

Leon said :

Hosinator said :

No, I’d rather they spent the money on health, education, public transport infrastructure and parks.

The road network already reaches 100% of Canberra’s homes, but the walking and cycling network connects to only 50%.

We wouldn’t need so much parking if more of our streets had footpaths so we could more easily walk to schools, shops and other local places.

School children have difficulty walking without footpaths!!! Wow, how did we manage to get to school in my day? Sounds more an overprotective mummy and daddy excuse for driving the little dears.

watto23 said :

Happy to spend money on light rail, just make it rapid not another slow service. If there is provision for a non stop Gungahlin-Civic service plus and all stops service, then fine. Otherwise its a waste of money.

That would be using the special hover trams then? Or perhaps building a duplicate line for an extra $300 million or so.

Hosinator said :

No, I’d rather they spent the money on health, education, public transport infrastructure and parks.

The road network already reaches 100% of Canberra’s homes, but the walking and cycling network connects to only 50%.

We wouldn’t need so much parking if more of our streets had footpaths so we could more easily walk to schools, shops and other local places.

bronal said :

Parking charges are a fee for service, not a tax. All I am asking is that the ACT Government maintain its carparks to a decent standard to deliver that service.

As far as discouraging driving is concerned, we always come back to the chicken-and-egg problem that more people would catch the bus if they didn’t do a Cook’s tour of five suburbs before reaching the next interchange. Unfortunately, Canberra isn’t designed for public transport, even the new suburbs in Gunghalin.

Agreed about the time a bus takes, which is my main opposition to the proposed light rail that saves a whole 2 minutes of the journey on Northbourne… Probably takes longer given you’ll need to transfer from bus to light rail.

Happy to spend money on light rail, just make it rapid not another slow service. If there is provision for a non stop Gungahlin-Civic service plus and all stops service, then fine. Otherwise its a waste of money.

gazket said :

buy a motorbike . the money you save on parking will pay for it so really you get a free bike.

Already on that, although be prepared to see how bad drivers can be when they see a bike with L’s or P’s!!!

Parking charges are a fee for service, not a tax. All I am asking is that the ACT Government maintain its carparks to a decent standard to deliver that service.

As far as discouraging driving is concerned, we always come back to the chicken-and-egg problem that more people would catch the bus if they didn’t do a Cook’s tour of five suburbs before reaching the next interchange. Unfortunately, Canberra isn’t designed for public transport, even the new suburbs in Gunghalin.

Hosinator said :

No, I’d rather they spent the money on health, education, public transport infrastructure and parks.

Well, so would I hosinator (unless they spend it on a Light Rail). But, the ACT Govt make so much $ out of pay parking, you would think that they could spend a fraction of that incoming revenue on maintaining that revenue raising asset in reasonable condition.

There would still be massive surplus income/revenue from pay parking for those other things.

But less use of pay parking (especially if pay parking customers use loss making forms of public transport instead) = less revenue for the ACT Gov’t to spend on things health, education, more MLAs, sky whales, loss making Light Rail, pointless challenges to court rulings over riding ACT marriage equality bills, etc, too.