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March of the 40 zones

By johnboy - 10 June 2013 45

Shane Rattenbury has put forth word that come 11 June there will be a whole heap of 40 around town:

New 40km/h speed limits in Belconnen, Civic and Tuggeranong town centres will come into effect on Tuesday 11 June 2013, announced Minister for Territory and Municipal Services, Shane Rattenbury.

“The 40 km/h speed limits will apply 24 hours a day, seven days a week, and aim to improve safety for all road users,” said Mr Rattenbury.

“These are town centre areas with high pedestrian movement and a substantial level of retail and commercial development.

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March of the 40 zones
A_Cog 1:12 pm 11 Jun 13

And while I’m here, let me double down on my previous comment…

April 2011 – March 2012: no fatalities in ACT.
April 2012 – March 2013: 15 fatalities in ACT (8 car drivers, 5 motorcyclists, 3 pedestrians).

The ACT already has the safest roads in Australia, and if death statistics are of such concern, why not ban motorbikes or driving? Based on those numbers I just gave, driving/riding is more than four times as dangerous as crossing a road! OMG!!!

A system to protect pedestrians already exists; they’re called pedestrian crossings at traffic lights. Green means “GO”, Red means “STOP”.

What’s next? Reducing 100km/h zones to 70km/h?

Watson 12:59 pm 11 Jun 13

Ceej1973 said :

Don’t see why people have a problem with it. Looks like a City coming in line with the rest of the world. Many countries actually have 30hm/h limits in high pedestrian areas, and 50 on all residential streets. Why should Tuggeranong, Canberra, Australia be any different to the rest of the world?

In lots of other countries they would actually ban cars from these areas altogether.

A_Cog 12:54 pm 11 Jun 13

Thumper said :

The problem with 40k zones is that, most law abiding citizens will stick to the speed limits ….

No they won’t. ACT drivers will follow the unwritten ACT rule of driving 10kms under the speed limit, like they do in 60/80/100 zones. This will make it worse.

As for saving lives, yep that’s good. Under the new 40 zones, people who previously crossed roads without watching out for traffic will safely make it across, on their way home where they commit other ridiculously stupid acts like smoking [whilst they fall asleep] in bed. Here’s hoping you don’t live in a block with these road-crossing-too-stupid-to-watch-out, happy-to-smoke-in-bed, damned-if-i-am-going-to-pay-attention-and-exercise-any-independent-thought-whatsoever, the-state-exists-to-protect-me-even-when-it-protects-me-from-myself people, because running from an apartment-block fire at 11pm ain’t fun. Sleep with your shoes on.

Sure, it’s a semi-tenuous link, but at least I didn’t call them [traffic] nazis.

Felix the Cat 12:53 pm 11 Jun 13

wildturkeycanoe said :

Perhaps we should also ban motorised vehicles from these areas and go back to riding bicycles.

Fixed for you

Ceej1973 12:19 pm 11 Jun 13

Don’t see why people have a problem with it. Looks like a City coming in line with the rest of the world. Many countries actually have 30hm/h limits in high pedestrian areas, and 50 on all residential streets. Why should Tuggeranong, Canberra, Australia be any different to the rest of the world?

thebrownstreak69 12:18 pm 11 Jun 13

At some point pedestrians need to take some responsibility too. Shared zones are not the answer, expect in limited busy areas.

Rollersk8r 12:08 pm 11 Jun 13

richiedt said :

Great initiative. Has the potential to save lives. Can’t see the problem with it.

Despite the speed humps, there’s plenty of drivers that love to hoon down the cafe district of Scollay Street which is a heavily pedestrianised area.

Hopefully they’ll hoon a little slower now.

Potential to save lives? Yes, the countless 1000s killed in our city centres each year….

As I’ve said before – in Civic it’s a solution to a problem that doesn’t exist. There are that many sets of lights and pedestrian crossings around the main loop you’d be lucky to ever hit 60.

Captain RAAF 11:14 am 11 Jun 13

The one in front of the Hyperdome, Tuggeranong already has speed bumps and a pedestrian crossing that rivals the sand dunes they encountered on the Redex reliability trials and people are already crawling through there. 40 KMH will just allow people to speed up!
The Latte drinking establishments have their outdoor eating areas extend all the way to the road and right beside the Xing, so you can’t see if anyone is approaching the Xing in order to give way to them!

Eventually, someone’s going to get skittled and the blame will be on centre management, because first thing I’d be doing is claiming I was doing 40 kmh, and could not see the anyone approaching the crossing.

Instead of forcing us all to near walking pace, how about improving visibility by keeping the areas around pedestrian crossings clear and well lit?

p1 10:36 am 11 Jun 13

Why can’t we forget the 40 zones and traffic cushions, and just introduce some big shared zones? Paint the ground red or green (or blue? I think the others are already used) if we have to, and make it clear that hitting a pedestrian is always your fault.

dtc 9:57 am 11 Jun 13

banco said :

…and the nanny state marches on.

Imagine placing the protection of pedestrians over the rights of a car driver. What’s next – special laws about what you can do with children?

Guess what, its a nanny state because too many people are too stupid and too irresponsible to deal with dangers themselves and need someone else to make them do things right.

Thumper 8:50 am 11 Jun 13

The problem with 40k zones is that, most law abiding citizens will stick to the speed limits whereas fucktards in whites commodores or utes will still scream around, therefore making it more dangerous than it was previously as the pedestrians will expect cars to be going slower.

However, I have no problems with the 40k speed limit and think that it should be introduced into suburbs.

richiedt 8:17 am 11 Jun 13

Great initiative. Has the potential to save lives. Can’t see the problem with it.

Despite the speed humps, there’s plenty of drivers that love to hoon down the cafe district of Scollay Street which is a heavily pedestrianised area.

Hopefully they’ll hoon a little slower now.

wildturkeycanoe 5:49 am 11 Jun 13

Because 60 isn’t safe anymore. Perhaps we should also ban motorised vehicles from these areas and go back to horse and carriage. Let us also reduce the limits on highways to 60, so that future head on collisions will have a higher survivor rating. Maybe I shouldn’t suggest that, they’ll probably consider it.

Antagonist 1:38 am 11 Jun 13

The media release would actually have been informative or useful if the location of any one of the new 40 zones were included. A map perhaps? Or just some street names?

banco 9:38 pm 10 Jun 13

…and the nanny state marches on.

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