15 November 2008

Margaret from Ainslie takes a stick to the CMC and Insatiable Banalities on Chief Minister's talkback

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[First filed: November 14, 2008 @ 10:30]

So there I was listening to Chief Minister’s talkback on 666 and between the usual old farts, party shills and other assorted nutbaggery I was surprised to hear a familiar voice.

Here’s a link to a recording of the segment.

There on the radio was the drop-in star of last night’s Insatiable Banalities podcast, who was shrieking over the actors doing a play reading. Something to look forward to in future when the podcast goes up.

Anyway Margaret was not so kind as to promote the Canberra Musician’s Club by name. But she did a great job of dropping a bucket on them and in particular the Backyard Backanalias.

At the moment the Backanalias are so pared back that sexual favours are being traded to gain a coveted “+1” with someone who’s on the guest list, and haven’t been held in 6 months. But it seems that not enough for Margaret.

Jon Stanhope did a commendable job of seeking conciliation.

Response from the CMC to follow shortly.

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UPDATED: Here’s President McCrae’s response (the photograph is of his meeting with Chief Minister Stanhope at the CMC launch earlier this year):

    First I would like to say that many activities occur at our residence, only a few of which (Backanalias and Club picnics/meetings) are associated with the Canberra Musicians Club. It was never intended for the CMC to have any involvement in the Backanalias. Unfortunately, as the various authorities, alerted by our neighbour, became interested, we had to change tack in an effort to continue what we think is becoming and should continue to be a great social and cultural institution for Canberra.

    The changes we have made are in line with all the advice we have received from ACT police, health and liquor licensing officers. In fact, there is now nothing to distinguish the Backanalia in its proposed form from any ordinary house party, other than that the music is live (which frequently happens at house parties anyway). Given we will be running at most 6-7 of these events per annum, we don’t consider it to be too great an imposition on the neighbourhood. We purposely pick acts that are at the quieter end of the spectrum and amplify to a minimum. We put (even) quieter acts on later in the evening and stop all amplified play at 11pm. We are limiting attendance to 150 people. There will be no money exchanged except for a donation, 100% of which will go to the musicians. We are giving away sausage sandwiches. It is entirely byo.

    Having said all that, we (that is I, not the Club) have made some mistakes, especially in not properly consulting our neighbours, although I reject Margaret’s assertion that we have ‘never’ consulted her. In fact she is the only neighbour that we consulted about it before the first show in the current location. Last night’s incident was unfortunate. The recording of Podcasts (which is what was happening, and which have no connection to the CMC besides my involvement in both) normally takes place inside the shed, but the warmth of the evening and the unusually large group of participants decided us on moving outside. I had no idea that the content would be so full of ‘explicatives’ and I will be making a personal apology about that and a couple of other incidents later today.

    On the other hand, the feedback from other neighbours has been almost universally positive (one neighbour complained once, and then his wife came to the next one and advised my mother that they both approved). Many near neighbours have begun attending, some have joined the Club, and we feel like we are responsible for bringing the local community together to a degree. Margaret has complained once to us directly, not about a Backanalia, but about a small spontaneous party we held where unfortunately we allowed our high spirits to get the better of us and played too loud and too late. It’s not something we intend to repeat.

    The Club is very gratified to apparently have John Stanhope’s support. We feel that our objectives are in line with government policy on promoting the arts in Canberra and, while our mode of operation may be a little on the edge at present, it is our fervent desire to be able to operate entirely legitimately in a permanent location as soon as possible. We have every sympathy for our neighbour and will do all in our power to assuage her in this matter, but her complaint highlights an issue that spreads wider than our neighbourhood, frequently embroiling managers of urban venues where city living has created a conflict of interests. While the government may support contemporary music, it has done little to address these growing impingements on the ability of musicians to ply there trade in Canberra.

    The Canberra Musicians Club is determined to overcome these issues and find a home that will allow the best of local music to be presented in the manner it deserves. We are happy to work with the government and any other organisations to achieve these goals. We invite all interested parties to join in us this endeavour. In the mean time we will continue to operate as we have done, prioritising the music and solving such problems as arise with creativity, a spirit of co-operativeness and unrestrained passion. We mean no harm to anyone and we do not intend to continue running the Backanalia at its present location hereafter.

    Nigel McRae
    President
    Canberra Musicians Club

FURTHER UPDATE: Score one for complaining to the Chief Minister, the event has now been cancelled.

Also for the benefit of the intellectually disabled gentleman who complained allow me to disclose for those who missed it (after publishing it previously) that I’m a member of the CMC, was in fact in the group which riled Margaret last night (disclosed above), and the CMC are sponsors of RiotACT (as, so it happens, RiotACT is of the CMC).

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Well went to the show tonight and don’t recall there being much swearing at all. Bit of a storm in a Margaret tea cup really.

I, however, would pay extra to live next door to Nigel!

: )

I reckon the money you’d save in concerts and theatre would be a real bonus. Plus your kids would get an excellent exposure to the arts.

“Mum, can I be in Nigel’s play?”

“Ask your father ….”

How come these events aren’t held at a community centre or hall? Whenever I do something at even a fraction of this scale I hire a venue. I’d never subject my neighbours to this. It shouldn’t be in anybody’s backyard.

Whinging bitch. ‘Nuff said.

criticising the neighbour for simply demanding from the organisers what we demand of Stanhope: listen to the community…

we rightly criticise those we voted for to represent us, as citizens of the community, but surely it is a very long bow to expect all citizens be entirely consultative about everything they do! while of course i get pissed off no end by yobs with parties raging loudly into the night, it sounds from mccrae’s defence that this wasn’t quite the case – as others have pointed out, it is the suburbs, shared spaces, and if you really really need such deathly quiet, either move to adelaide (just kidding, move out bush) or buy earplugs, ’cause it is what is going to happen.

[disclaimer: the link to margaret’s comments brought up a quicktime file but was distinctly lacking in any noise… hmm – so i haven’t heard the complaint and am only going from what i read above]

that said, a bout of foul language that can obviously be clearly heard by neighbours shouldn’t be condoned – it might be a nice warm night and you’d like to perform outside, but you shoulda known antecedent that such language might cause some offence… so i am sitting like a prowling tom, on the fence, on this one…

next time, write a role in for margaret and have her join in?? : )

When I come to power replacing Stanhope, I will punch noise makers in the nose 4 times ™

GottaLoveCanberra10:54 pm 15 Nov 08

Ok, so someone obviously didn’t like my far more blatant approach at a response to this topic so I try to approach it with a little more sensitivity.

She’s a whinger.

How’s that?

Deadmandrinking said :

… nothing worse than a super-sound-sensitive neighbor who complains when anyone raises their voice slightly.

Bu that’s not what we’re talking about. We’re talking about bands and a hundred people in the backyard. And, at least from the pov of the complainant, an apparent lack of care from the organisers about whether its a problem (although I doubt that was their intention), and no way of knowing that this was not part of a continuing series.

A great event, to be sure, for those in it. But not so much for those who have no interest in it, don’t like the music, and would rather be doing something more interesting with their evening than an enforced listening to music they don’t like.

I don’t live in the country, but I also don’t live in the inner city (where constant noise must be considered part of the deal).

Its a community, of a 2008 inner suburbia kind. People have parties, bands play, drunks yell. Humanity does its stuff. But by and large, people are both considerate and accommodating, which makes it all work. It only takes a few persistent offenders in either direction to alter that landscape to a cult-of-the-individual nightmare where any attempt at communality – ie shared responsibility — is out the window. If only the loud get their choice of environment, it makes a place where life is boring, where diversity is squashed, just as surely as the one where silence rules.

I am after a world where everyone can have a good life. That means taking account of other people in our choices.

I think both Nigel and Margaret are part of a solution here.

Deadmandrinking11:31 am 15 Nov 08

I disagree with Ant. From what I’ve heard, this isn’t a regular event all things considered. People who live in the suburbs should just get used to the suburbs. When you’re in the suburbs, people make noise and there’s nothing, I repeat, nothing worse than a super-sound-sensitive neighbor who complains when anyone raises their voice slightly. Backyard Bacchanalia doesnt happen that often, and from what I can gather of regular crowd, I doubt the noise would be even half of what your average 18th or 21st.

People like Margaret should be the ones buying a farm. Let me tell you – it’s quiet…very quiet, and completely boring. If that’s what you want, go for it – or rent one, country properties can be pretty cheap to rent. Just don’t stay in the suburbs if you’re going to make a fuss because you can’t handle humanity. The suburbs were not built just for you.

Vic Bitterman11:07 am 15 Nov 08

I agree with Ant too. Nothing worse than a selfish neighbour inflicting regular noise upon others.

barking toad10:24 am 15 Nov 08

Willie : “Purse-lipped Maggie, do we have any grease?”

PLM : “Yes. Yes, we do”

Willie : “Then grease me up woman!”

PLM : “Okey dokey”

I’m with you ant.

Once in a blue moon OK. Not a regular basis.

ant said :

My sympathies are with Margaret. Who wants to live near serial noisy neighbours? Since when were these kinds of things featured in real estate ads as a Benefit (let alone a feature)? Fact is, no one wants to live near a trail bike track, or a backyard music venue. She’s obviously had enough. No one has the right to inflict their noise on other people, but it’s happening more and more. Good on her for trying to do something about it.

I think this post has run its course… however.

Life in the suburbs is a fine balancing act – if you think that you are entitled to have everything exactly as you want it in what is essentially a shared environment then you are controlling to an extent that will negatively impact on yours and others lives. You will beat your children for putting back the cereal in the wrong place in the cupboard. The few people that still bother talking to you generally regard you as a c@nt.

If you accept that there will be some times when you must show tolerance to others around you, if you recognise that there is likely sometimes in a year when they are tolerant of you – moments that you yourself are blind to – then you are balanced. You will live a long and happy life full of bruise-less children and without a persistent sensation akin to a large obstruction in your bowels.

Domestic violence or children with cancer are actual causes – not to be confused with self-indulgent campaigning because you are socially incapable of dealing with the nuances of modern life in suburbia. The latter should never be applauded. Lest you realise too late – one day it will be margaret or someone strikingly similar, hell-bent and quite unreasonably destroying the one thing you love.

Like Margaret, I too have neighbours who talk, move, listen to music, engage in activities outside of business hours and sometimes even start cars or motorbikes. A prescription for what ails those with such brittle and selfish bones – earplugs, scotch, temazapam and a dose of reality.

My sympathies are with Margaret. Who wants to live near serial noisy neighbours? Since when were these kinds of things featured in real estate ads as a Benefit (let alone a feature)? Fact is, no one wants to live near a trail bike track, or a backyard music venue. She’s obviously had enough. No one has the right to inflict their noise on other people, but it’s happening more and more. Good on her for trying to do something about it.

Re JB and “I want to know how the grand children could be appalled by words they were unfamiliar with.”

It reminded me of this little treasure in the bible:

Titus 1:15 New American Standard Bible (©1995)
To the pure, all things are pure; but to those who are defiled and unbelieving, nothing is pure, but both their mind and their conscience are defiled.

Titus 1:15 GOD’S WORD® Translation (©1995)
Everything is clean to those who are clean. But nothing is clean to corrupt unbelievers. Indeed, their minds and their consciences are corrupted.

Titus 1:15 King James Bible
Unto the pure all things are pure: but unto them that are defiled and unbelieving is nothing pure; but even their mind and conscience is defiled.

I’ve been to a bunch of these backyard things. They were not all that loud and pretty easygoing. There were kids and grand parents and people in between. And I don’t mean hippy types who just let their kids run wild about the place when they should be in bed. I mean just average type people who had discovered somewhere nice to socialise and listen to music when there really isn’t anywhere much else to go. I mean, you can’t take your gran or your three year old out on a Saturday night to hang with the pokies at the club, or get their eardrums hammered at the pub. You can’t go to the theatre where everyone has to be quiet. But you can all just lob up to the backyard and have a chinwag and a nice time. There isn’t much of it about and it is deadset a rare and valuable thing.

It’s also one of the few regular local music things I’ve seen which involves some quality control. Generally everything was played and mixed to a standard which most pubs doing music at the local level don’t even bother to think about. It is nice that someone sets a standard and it puts the rest of them to shame.

If we lose all of that goodness because one person can’t give up their quiet time for 6 or 7 nights out of 365 each year then I think we will all be poorer for it.

blind said :

I’m not saying I don’t want to write this 50% explicative play: I clearly do. It would be awesome. It would be like Dr Seuss dipped in smut. Margaret would be welcome to attend, although she may not need to bother since she appears to be hearing an ongoing murmur of filth without needing to travel to the theatre.

I like you 🙂

Please write the play. We can put it on at my place. My neighbours object strenuously to classical music being played on a piano or organ. They get even crosser when it happens at ungodly hours of like 8pm on a Saturday night. What gets them really cross is when someone plays Pink Floyd stuff on the organ and sings too.

actually JohnBoy, I thought the Backyard was yours, confused me being someone else’s.

Congratulations Margret. I applaud your decision to whinge about noise.

Now to maim all people who keep roosters in suburbia.

After studying the above comments, I am declaring for Margaret. A pox on all self-indulgent wankers,

ahh, ok

cheers

Nope, a general comment on Margaret’s attitude after listening to the recording.

you talking to me Dante?

What a NIMBY.

Good response Nigel – smart move… you guys would have got your arse kicked if you hadn’t done something like that

My neighbours across the back fence play loud 2ca type music all day – that happens to be music I don’t like – about every fortnight in summer. It is really stressful and annoying if I’m in my back yard. I think an event that attracts 400 people should certainly be held in a hall. I’m actually with Margaret (other than the explicative language bit – that was uncalled for). Just put yourselves in Margaret’s shoes – 11 pm cessation still means four hours of loud music next door – and then loud voices thereafter. If people want to hold big parties, maybe find a farmhouse just outside Canberra to rent!

barking toad5:28 pm 14 Nov 08

Anyone who rings the mayor to complain would normally deserve full support because the complaint would be about his incompetence.

But a whinge about neighbours on the ABC is the ghey.

I can picture Maggie with pursed lips, arms folded and tapping a foot at the brazeness of people having a good time

Just a symptom of the ever increasing lack of consideration for other people so prevalent in society these days. She’s exaggerated and Nigel has put his hand up and said they made a few mistakes. End of story

Have you heard the one about the bass player who locked his keys in his car?

It took him hours to get the drummer out.

And if anything this may help in the search for a permanent venue..

Why not just move next door?

GB said :

Re Jim Jones’ spirited defence of drummers:

Now you’re sucking all the fun out of it. I had a full tank of righteous drumming fury to lay out and now there’s nothing … NOTHING! Guess I’ll have to go practice paradiddles for another 4 hours.

What’s the difference between a drummer and a large pizza?
A large pizza can feed a family of four.

My sentiment on this issue is rapidly turning towards the defendant.

Onya Nigel – great response.

Re Jim Jones’ spirited defence of drummers:

1) Joke. The djembe is the accordion of contemporary folk (apologies to all accordionists, and musical djembeistas).

2) I’m a drummer.

3) Drums don’t annoy people, drummers do.

4) I quite like whiney, inauthentic folk crap.

5) I’ve just listened to several of the great songs of the past century. Nope. No drums.

6) Most of the music I like is neither inauthentic folk crap, nor drum-ridden.

7) Much of the music I like has drums.

8) See (1)

Im voting for Marg as stalwart crusader, wheres the votey thing?

I would like to reitorate that home renovators should still be forced to live in tents for the misery they cause others. JBoots and the CMC also,but possibly just for 1 weekend a month over the warmer months. be a pretty noisy tent, and tonnes of fun – perhaps a marquee gig is next for the CMC? coming to a park near you…? Nth Ainslie PS oval? could donate some musical services for their next fete for oval rent)

wishuwell: put me down for a Margret of Ainslies grandkids shirt also

even more seriously – seriously Boots, sort your neighbours out…nicely, with some charm and wit and outright bribery. Or possibly some compromise. Like ya shoulda 1st.

heres a poll for you – who wants a permenant muso venue, and who wants backyard gigs?
and who wants BOTH!

Great response Nigel -very mature, responsible and accepting. Well done.

GB said :

Bolstered by a blanket ban on drummers … nobody needs drummers.

So, the most popular, revolutionary and creative forms of music in the past century have been jazz and rock and roll—and its offshoots (from punk and metal to indie and the rest): music largely defined by its percussive force, and you can’t handle drummers?

Imagine any of the great songs of the past century, then listen to them without drums. Apart from the whiney, wholly inauthentic folk crap, there’s nothing left.

I want to know how the grand children could be appalled by words they were unfamiliar with.

blind said :

Every second word?

She may well have been exaggerating the evidence in anger, possibly even raving about things which are not her main point and which wouldn’t really matter otherwise.

Apparently people do this out in the rest of the world too, not just ranters on riotact….

CMC is a great thing – its actually good that she chose not to drag it through the mud on radio, only the event as it apparently affects her.

#38 — it doesn’t have to be a slippery slope. If people are mostly reasonable, most other people just wear the inconvenience when things get out of hand. Repeatedly having the event at a place where neighbours don’t want it just gets parties — and live music — a bad name. Ditto the band in a garage – if its way out of line, and repeated, find a better place or time or just spread the pain around a bit. If I’m having a quiet romantic dinner in the backyard and someone two doors up is having a wild expletive-ridden pissup with AC/DC on 11/10, then I’ll be annoyed that I lucked out that night. If it happened regularly, I think its reasonable to ask them to think about changing their plan – or at least for them to ask people who want quiet to get out of town for the night.

#43 — Its easy to characterise the person who wants quiet as “down on fun” — but if they want quiet fun, then its the noisemaker who is being “down on fun.” Noisy things at night don’t have a monopoly on fun, nor do quiet ones. Cf the National Folk Festival’s excellent plan of having the campground with “owls” and “chickens” ends. Bolstered by a blanket ban on drummers… nobody needs drummers.

In short: its a matter of respect, and degree.

Oh and if someone makes the “My grandchildren were appalled” tshirt, I want one (despite my lack of progeny)! It will make a nice buddy for my “We are the people our parents warned us against” button.

Hehehe…nice post blind.

You could adapt “Down on Love” to “Down on Fun” …. *hehe*

What if a person wants to hold a wedding or christening or wake in their backyard? I got married in a friend’s backyard in Braddon a long time ago.

Blind, I like you.

Blind – You should send tickets and a limo for Margaret’s grandkids though. They need to get out more.

let me just make one point, as the writer of the play in question, regarding Margaret’s comment that ‘The play appeared to have sentences of three words, and every second word was an explicative.’

Margaret might be right on the money about there being three-word sentences in the play – I can’t think of any offhand, but I wouldn’t rule it out. If there are three-word sentences, I apologise. However, do you honestly believe Margaret when she says that every second word was an explicative? Every second word? Do you realise how ludicrous that is? If one word in ten was an expletive it would be a profane, foul-mouthed departure from the english language – one in five would make it virtually impossible to understand. Every second word? (And these are three word sentences, remember – at least half these sentences are TWO THIRDS SWEAR-WORD.)

For perspective, Trainspotting (the movie) had fewer than one swear-word to every hundred words. Reservoir Dogs and Pulp Fiction less than one in 150. What was Margaret listening to? The endless stream of cursing she describes did not, I’m sorry to say, originate from Oceans.

I’m not saying I don’t want to write this 50% explicative play: I clearly do. It would be awesome. It would be like Dr Seuss dipped in smut. Margaret would be welcome to attend, although she may not need to bother since she appears to be hearing an ongoing murmur of filth without needing to travel to the theatre.

I don’t know all the facts, but it seems people here are criticising the neighbour for simply demanding from the organisers what we demand of Stanhope: listen to the community, not just your mates.

Quiet enjoyment of your own backyard is a pretty common desire. If you want to do a concert in your backyard, then everyone else is going to have to listen, so you better make pretty sure that’s its ok with them. And if you don’t, well don’t be surprised if it ends up being debated in public.

Clearly one person’ creative, community-minded festival of acoustic song with sausages is another’s quite night in ruined. So give people a choice.

Does she live in the Noise Abatement Corridor? Did she know about the fact that her suburb was built directly under a Radical Performance Arts Zone??

I missed it completely!

> Ah..fair call Bloodnut 😉

Hey! I called it first! *sooks* 😉

KandyA: Pure gold mate 🙂

And the bands dont even play well known popular music.

Um, hate to point this out but the bands that play are NOT cover bands.

They in fact generally play their own music, original stuff…

And in this town it is increasingly difficult to get gigs playing original material as the bloody clubs have pretty much killed the music scene bu only employing cover bands, and half the time they are in fact cover duos with sequenced backing tracks..

Argh, that hurts my ears….

Thumper, note that KandyA’s humour is not always accessible or suitable for communication via electronic electronic media.

Perhaps KandyA mistook the musician’s club for the footy club.

: )

> Ive been to one of these ‘events’ and I must say, the people there are all the worst sorts. And the bands dont even play well known popular music.

Surely this comment was a joke?

Well, I would have gone if I wasn’t going to be away in Brisbane, and I bet I would have had a fine time! Why would you go along to CMC gigs to see ‘well known popular music’? You can get that anywhere.

As for the worst sorts of people … *chuckle* … no doubt you all know who you are!

; )

PickedANickname said :

Well, was there swearing?

Anyways I found this…the event is supposed to be ‘family friendly’ a play with swearing is not family friendly.

http://www.culturazi.com/?page_id=328

[i]The Backyard Backanalia is a one-night music festival held in a back yard in Canberra on the first Saturday of every warmer month (Oct-Apr). It is not openly advertised. If you’d like to attend, email us.

The purpose of the BB’s is to provide an alternative venue for showcasing Canberra’s brilliant performing artists. They are family friendly and we hope to generate a ‘community’ feel. Click below to see stills and videos of past shows, and past line-ups.[/i]

Last night was not a Backanalia, it was an Insatiable Banalities podcast with the cast of the upcoming play “Oceans all boiled into sky”

Ive been to one of these ‘events’ and I must say, the people there are all the worst sorts. And the bands dont even play well known popular music.

but really – its what- every couple of months? my neighbours are rebuilding their house – thats noise just about every friggin day. (scuse the foul lingo…)

People that dont like their houses should give it to me (or Margaret from Ainslie) and if they buy a block they should live in a tent.

PickedANickname12:46 pm 14 Nov 08

Well, was there swearing?

Anyways I found this…the event is supposed to be ‘family friendly’ a play with swearing is not family friendly.

http://www.culturazi.com/?page_id=328

[i]The Backyard Backanalia is a one-night music festival held in a back yard in Canberra on the first Saturday of every warmer month (Oct-Apr). It is not openly advertised. If you’d like to attend, email us.

The purpose of the BB’s is to provide an alternative venue for showcasing Canberra’s brilliant performing artists. They are family friendly and we hope to generate a ‘community’ feel. Click below to see stills and videos of past shows, and past line-ups.[/i]

Though evidence seems to be mounting that Margaret is a crank, so I shall reserve my judgment.

That woman gives grandmothers a bad name I tell you!

If she really wants to hear “explicative” language, she should come over to my house and listen to the bloke over the back having a ‘discussion’ with his son!

Maybe I should ask Jon to save me from the neighbours too????

I can’t imagine Margaret accepting ….

While I think it’s all well and cool (and hip) to have a massive backyard party, I reckon i’d be pretty pissed off if my neighbours pulled this type of thing next door to me, and didn’t bother to ask me about it.

If my neighbours approached me and said that they were having a gathering with live music and food, and it sounded appealing to me (which it probably would), then i’d expect an invitation, and I would likely accept.

Jim Jones, apparently so if you read par 3 of the original posting.

What time is it in the podcast JB? Promise to listen to the whole thing when I have time!

My grandchildren may be appalled, caf, but my kids wouldn’t be I’m afraid! *blush*

The backanalia people should wear the t-shirts on the night! *hehehe*

Granny: Are your grandchildren appalled? And if not, why not?

I dunno – I think I’m with Margaret on this one. I wouldn’t be very happy if there was a backyard backanalia going on next door and, if as alleged, there were 400 people there, alcohol being served and noone bothering to consult me about it. Play readings are a different story (although I’d take a fire hose to any poetry reading or poetry slam) – but it’s not unreasonable that offensive language (regardless of artistic context)has caused offence.

Nothing to do with being boring, Mr Evil, more to do with there being a time and place for everything (except poetry slams).

I think I am beginning to like Jon Stanhope!

*clunk*

That Margaret, eh? What a card! She ought to be dealt with ….

WTF is it with people that they think they have a right not to have things happening near them?

Did she bother to talk to her neighbours before making ‘official complaints’?

wishuwell said :

‘My grandchildren were appalled’ might look good on a RiotACT t-shirt

the best idea ever.

wishuwell: I would definitely buy that t-shirt.

Margaret – it’s people like you that make Canberra so bloody boring!

‘My grandchildren were appalled’ might look good on a RiotACT t-shirt

To be fair it was more of a RiotACT function which appalled her than anything to do with the CMC.

We can appall grandchildren with the best of them.

“My grandchildren were appalled.” – If only RiotACT could get endorsements like that.

‘Last night they were practicing a play. It appeared to have sentences of three words, every second word was an explicative, and it was really being yelled. My grandchildren were appalled.’

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