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Marist and Daramalan buy off more victims

By johnboy - 16 September 2010 21

The ABC brings word of progress in the child sex abuse claims being made against the Marist and Daramalan colleges here in Canberra:

Most of the Daramalan cases are linked to the late Paul Lyons, while the majority of those at Marist relate to Brother John Chute – also known as Brother Kostka – who has completed his jail time and is now serving periodic detention.

ACT Supreme Court yesterday heard mediations are proceeding as planned with another round of negotiations set down for November.

At least they’re admitting they exist and were responsible, which is progress.

The case returns to court in December.

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Marist and Daramalan buy off more victims
54-11 9:20 am 17 Sep 10

You’re so wrong, justin, on almost every level.

The random cases in schools you refer to are happening, and are being dealt with.

The problem with what happened in Catholic (and other) schools was institutionalised abuse. This is where victims were victimised further; where perpetrators were not only protected, but allowed, indeed encouraged, to move on to other “green fields” where a whole new set of victims were created.

Attacking comment by other people on this site does not diminish one iota the effects of the institutional abuse created, supported and protected by the church hierarchy.

georgesgenitals 2:34 am 17 Sep 10

justin heywood said :

BerraBoy68 said :

Just because people don’t agree with you it doesn’t make them a bigot, just different, or possibly more informed

True, although I am a little more informed than you seem to think – and a severely lapsed Catholic atheist like you. I was not attacking your post particularly BeraBoy – you have a personal interest in the issue and addressed it – but others refer to it only in passing in their eagerness to vent their bigotry.

Yesterday, a poster here was saying, without apparent irony, that he could spot a bigot by the stickers on his car. Today, the first two threads I read contained anti-Catholic rants from numerous posters with only tangential reference to the OP.

Only a fool would argue that the Catholic church behaved ethically on this issue. My point was that the abuse issue is a lightning rod for bigots, who use the issue to exercise their intolerance for Christianity in general.

When the abuse of children is such a current and widespread issue, the focus on one small aspect of it (historical abuse by clergy) smells of a witch hunt by people who would call themselves civilized.

Very well said. If we are going to stand against intolerance, then we have to show tolerance ourselves, even when its toward a general group we dislike.

justin heywood 9:39 pm 16 Sep 10

BerraBoy68 said :

Just because people don’t agree with you it doesn’t make them a bigot, just different, or possibly more informed

True, although I am a little more informed than you seem to think – and a severely lapsed Catholic atheist like you. I was not attacking your post particularly BeraBoy – you have a personal interest in the issue and addressed it – but others refer to it only in passing in their eagerness to vent their bigotry.

Yesterday, a poster here was saying, without apparent irony, that he could spot a bigot by the stickers on his car. Today, the first two threads I read contained anti-Catholic rants from numerous posters with only tangential reference to the OP.

Only a fool would argue that the Catholic church behaved ethically on this issue. My point was that the abuse issue is a lightning rod for bigots, who use the issue to exercise their intolerance for Christianity in general.

When the abuse of children is such a current and widespread issue, the focus on one small aspect of it (historical abuse by clergy) smells of a witch hunt by people who would call themselves civilized.

BerraBoy68 8:41 pm 16 Sep 10

justin heywood said :

Anti-Catholicism. The last resort of the polite bigot.

Say what you like Justin, I’ve spoken to these people and seen what they can do to those they are supposed to care for if it meets their own ends.

Like many others I was raised a catholic but, like many of my peers, turned away from it once I realised it is one of the most hypocritical organisations on the face of the earth. Seems to me if there really was a God and what the bible says is true, then first thing he’d do is disown his official fanclub.

Just because people don’t agree with you it doesn’t make them a bigot, just different, or possibly more informed

sepi 8:22 pm 16 Sep 10

The church does not handle abuse issues well at all, and trying to bring the issue of child abuse within the church out into the public is not anti-catholicism. Prosecuting crimes committed by religious people is not anti-catholicism.

I believe that all the publicity around abuse in the church will make parents and school teachers and principals far more aware of what can happen, and they will be far less trusting, and less abuse will occur.

Geoffrey Robinson has an interesting take on this one:
http://www.abc.net.au/news/stories/2010/09/16/3013313.htm?section=justin
“The problem with the church is that it’s been treating paedophile priests as sinners and not as serious criminals.”

justin heywood 7:28 pm 16 Sep 10

While Rioters trawl endlessly over the activities of a few individuals several decades ago, in NSW more than one teacher PER WEEK is reported for sexual misconduct. (Allegations sustained in 26 cases in the last 2 years). There is no reason to think that the ACT would be any better proportionately.

Anti-Catholicism. The last resort of the polite bigot.

BerraBoy68 6:36 pm 16 Sep 10

How much easier it would have been if the Marist brothers:
a) didn’t do everything they possibly could to keep it out of court;
b) would say openly what they were happy to say in a meeting with interested parties (i.e. the Church has been covering-up abuse for years);
c) didn’t hide behind legal-ese (i.e. they were happy to say “we failed in our duty of care” in private but not in public where that admit “it carries a specific legal meaning”.

Also, their mediation team is led by a catholic fossil know in abuse circles as a bully-boy and not someone who carries any kind of christian message. This is a guy who was happy to defend Kostka’s sexual abuse, in front of two sitting MLA’s no less, of one boy as “a hug, that’s all it was, nothing much, just a hug” despite knowing what that abuse has done to the boy in question.

Finally, this situation would be different if Corbel has a spine and changed ACT legislation in line with that in the US where a statue of limitation for Kostka’s crimes could be negated in specific circumstances. If Corbel had acted on this boys who were abused before this time could actually have taken legal action that would have effectively wiped out the Marist Brothers ludicrous Defence of not knowing who owned their school during this period.

I really am glad many of the abused are getting some closure but this way enables the Catholic Church to make the victims sign documents that effectively shuts them up while also providing the church the ability to say, “we did nothing wrong, aren’t we being generous”. Also, all those that hid this abuse,and hidden it surely was, are allowed to remain in the shadows and still be held up as ‘men of god’.

colourful sydney rac 1:58 pm 16 Sep 10

Dizzy said :

Congratulations, johnboy, you’ve managed a trifecta – mudslings at 3 different religious schools in just one day.

There seems to be a theme here.

Yep, lets sweep it all under the carpet shall we?

PBO 1:54 pm 16 Sep 10

Dizzy said :

Congratulations, johnboy, you’ve managed a trifecta – mudslings at 3 different religious schools in just one day.

There seems to be a theme here.

Maybe you should look at why the priests left you alone and didnt touch you too, that is what you are eventually getting at isnt it?

Bosworth 1:45 pm 16 Sep 10

Dizzy said :

Congratulations, johnboy, you’ve managed a trifecta – mudslings at 3 different religious schools in just one day.

There seems to be a theme here.

You’re right, Dizzy. We should ignore these child rapists and their protectors. Their behavious was really not THAT bad.

/sarcasm

Thoroughly Smashed 1:11 pm 16 Sep 10

Dizzy said :

Congratulations, johnboy, you’ve managed a trifecta – mudslings at 3 different religious schools in just one day.

There seems to be a theme here.

That religious schools are a bad place to send your kids? I can live with that conclusion.

Deref 12:50 pm 16 Sep 10

davesact said :

Our generation of course would not tolerate even an allegation of abuse. It is hopefully this generation of clergy, parents and community that will deny any of today’s Kostkas a “safe’ enviornment to operate in. Now if we only had a 35 year old Pope…

I’ll believe that when I see the pope order his global minions to instantly hand over all records, all kiddie fiddlers, and everyone who’s ever protected them to the police.

There should be a very special place for people who are given special privilege and then abuse it.

lobster 12:20 pm 16 Sep 10

Yeah, I have heard similar things from former MArist and Daramalan students.

Apparently the done thing was to try and keep the child quiet or station the guilty party in and overseas location where nothing can be done about it.

It sucks that there seemed to be procedures in place to deal with this type of thing in the past.

Dizzy 12:14 pm 16 Sep 10

Congratulations, johnboy, you’ve managed a trifecta – mudslings at 3 different religious schools in just one day.

There seems to be a theme here.

davesact 11:51 am 16 Sep 10

Ahh Kostka, caring, loving Brother Kostka. Both he and Paul taught me in the 70’s. Although often cuddled I was never abused? However childhood friends were not so lucky.

The generation that “enabled” Kostka and his ilk to operate so successfully and for so long in the Catholic community in Canberra has hopefully finally come to it’s end. The generation I speak of is my parents generation who promoted these men of the cloth as spiritually beyond reproach. The trust afforded them was really incomprehensible.

Allegations when I was a child were like whispers in the tight knit Catholic communities of 1970’s Canberra. And I know first hand that they were often quickly dealt with at a family level. The psychological trauma caused by the perpetrators and thier unwavering advocates on these abuse survivors should be acknowledged fully, compensated for and finalised immediately .

Our generation of course would not tolerate even an allegation of abuse. It is hopefully this generation of clergy, parents and community that will deny any of today’s Kostkas a “safe’ enviornment to operate in. Now if we only had a 35 year old Pope…

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