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Maryanne wants a free trained dog, and food.

By johnboy - 26 July 2011 55

All Classifieds have a listing from Maryanne which seems, well, optimistic:

Pet Dog Or Puppy For Apartment

Price: $1 – $10
Posted: 26 July 2011
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Location: Turner, ACT, 2612
Contact: Maryanne

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Hi, I’m looking for a companion dog or puppy suited for an apartment. Potty and house trained, to indicate when to go outside to poop and pee would be good. Also the basic commands, sit, come and down. Also to not chew cables or my papers or anything it is not supposed to chew.

Do not mind, whether it comes with food. If it has favourite toys or bedding, I would appreciate you giving it to me as it would save me money. I would have no trouble picking it up as I have a car so I can drive anywhere in the ACT or Quenbeyan.

Would prefer cheap or free as I’m broke!! Please contact by mobile or email if my phone is off, in case I’m driving.

Regards,

Maryanne

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John0001 11:57 pm 21 Jun 15

Evil_Kitten said :

Ello Vera said :

Just to comment on the Toy Puppy people. We were looking for a dog and, for ethical reasons, wanted to get it from reputable breeders only. Anyway, to cut a long story short, I have become more open minded about the dog trade.

A registered breeder was as mad as a balloon (NTTAWWT) and treated us very poorly. We agreed to get a puppy and then she rang us up and told us she had given it to someone else, a family member who had changed their mind about getting one. Gazumped on a dog. We ended up with the Toy people.

The Toy people we responsible and professional. The dog we got had no behavioural problems at all, and is healthy, saner than most Canberra pets, and has no obvious breeding flaws (he is a bichon-shitzu blend; it’ll be a real breed one day). It just made me think that so-called registered breeds are just puppy-millers who got there first. They charge more and from what I could see, treat the animals no better. At least compared to the Cootamundra mob. That said, I would never get an animal from a pet store. Lawd knows their provenance.

Did you go to their kennels and meet the parents and see where the puppies were raised? I ask that genuinely because I don’t actually know if that place is a puppy mill.

If they are, the fact that your pup has no problems, and the people were “responsible and professional” is not the main issue… the issue is that the mother of your pup is in a cage producing puppies like a battery hen with no love and no family until she is too old and worn out and defeated at which point she’ll be given away and most likely PTS. And this will continue while people still buy puppies blindly without really seeing where they came from.

As for the pet shop comment, they stock from exactly the same places as you bought from.

I know you wrote this about 4 years ago, but I feel like I need to say something. I doubt that you’ll notice this nor read it but I’ll give it a shot.

My family and I bought a puppy from Toy Puppies R Us in Cootamundra a long time ago, he’s about 8 years old today. He’s had behavioral issues since he was tiny and he still relapses into it from time to time. We first saw them at the Hall markets, as such we wanted to buy them on the day, but were told we had to go to their property to buy them, once we had done so, they told us we had to go to a neighboring backyard as their neighbor was letting them use their backyard to sell the dogs. It’s run by a husband and wife, the husband on the day we bought him was unfriendly and told us that he hated when people sent him Christmas card from the dogs. Because of these reasons we believe they are/were a puppy mill/farm.

I have seen people say the same thing but the only recent testament I can see is from 2013. We didn’t see the mother nor father of our dog. I have only just found out that they are still practicing or hopefully that they have stopped practicing since 2013. To the first commenter, perhaps you were lucky and they stopped being a puppy mill when you got your little guy. I’m curious to know how your dog is going?

00davist 10:50 am 29 Jul 11

Skidbladnir said :

00davist said :

Damn You!!!! Now I Want a Kilo of stick insects!!!
Those little guys are awsome!

Seek and ye shall find. Local producer, reasonable prices.
I only mentioned them because they were on the same page as Maryanne’s original wanted ad, roughly in her price range, and the RSPCA won’t care if they die.
$10 for a breeding pair… About $100-$150 by the kilo, though.

Or $80-$110 for a breeding pair or two, complete with an enclosure in which to breed them from these guys in Queensland.

OH MY GOD!!!!

This is awsome! Thankyou.

I may not get a Kilo, but a few would be nice, I think i could probably take better care for them than our wannabee dog owner could a stick of the non-insect variety.

EvanJames 9:41 am 29 Jul 11

You’d get a lot of stick insects in a kilo, there’s nothing to them. Some of them are rather big too.

Skidbladnir 12:43 am 29 Jul 11

00davist said :

Damn You!!!! Now I Want a Kilo of stick insects!!!
Those little guys are awsome!

Seek and ye shall find. Local producer, reasonable prices.
I only mentioned them because they were on the same page as Maryanne’s original wanted ad, roughly in her price range, and the RSPCA won’t care if they die.
$10 for a breeding pair… About $100-$150 by the kilo, though.

Or $80-$110 for a breeding pair or two, complete with an enclosure in which to breed them from these guys in Queensland.

Evil_Kitten 7:21 pm 28 Jul 11

Ello Vera said :

Just to comment on the Toy Puppy people. We were looking for a dog and, for ethical reasons, wanted to get it from reputable breeders only. Anyway, to cut a long story short, I have become more open minded about the dog trade.

A registered breeder was as mad as a balloon (NTTAWWT) and treated us very poorly. We agreed to get a puppy and then she rang us up and told us she had given it to someone else, a family member who had changed their mind about getting one. Gazumped on a dog. We ended up with the Toy people.

The Toy people we responsible and professional. The dog we got had no behavioural problems at all, and is healthy, saner than most Canberra pets, and has no obvious breeding flaws (he is a bichon-shitzu blend; it’ll be a real breed one day). It just made me think that so-called registered breeds are just puppy-millers who got there first. They charge more and from what I could see, treat the animals no better. At least compared to the Cootamundra mob. That said, I would never get an animal from a pet store. Lawd knows their provenance.

Did you go to their kennels and meet the parents and see where the puppies were raised? I ask that genuinely because I don’t actually know if that place is a puppy mill.

If they are, the fact that your pup has no problems, and the people were “responsible and professional” is not the main issue… the issue is that the mother of your pup is in a cage producing puppies like a battery hen with no love and no family until she is too old and worn out and defeated at which point she’ll be given away and most likely PTS. And this will continue while people still buy puppies blindly without really seeing where they came from.

As for the pet shop comment, they stock from exactly the same places as you bought from.

Evil_Kitten 7:08 pm 28 Jul 11

Henry82 said :

OK, so i emailed the person with a quick message about the price of animal upkeep etc

This is the response i got

Yeah I got a call from the RSPCA. I removed the ad!! That is a bit rude. I’m capable of looking after a living thing. I have plants, that are good in drought conditions that I water every two days, two cactuses and a aloe vera plant. Actually RSPCA suggested a cat, which I will get, maybe. I was probably over thinking companion as the only friend in my real life who ever was nice to me is in jail for a couple of months so wanted to replace him until he got out. (…)
P.S. I know animals have to be fed and walked daily. I’m not broke I’m on a centrelink pension and I’m looking for work to get more money anyway.

So it looks like the RSPCA was on the case. Problem solved.

“the only friend in my real life who ever was nice to me is in jail for a couple of months so wanted to replace him until he got out.”

And then what? Dump it at a shelter when she has her jailbird friend back? I think that sentence says it all.

00davist 6:05 pm 28 Jul 11

Skidbladnir said :

RedDogInCan said :

You seem to know a few intimate details about Maryanne she didn’t mention in the ad.

Not really, just be wary of how much information you share on the internet.

(In other news, the listing seems to have been removed. Maybe she learned her lesson, or settled for a kilo of stick insects instead?)

Damn You!!!! Now I Want a Kilo of stick insects!!!

Those little guys are awsome!

rebcart 1:19 pm 27 Jul 11

colourful sydney racing identity said :

EvanJames said :

This is like trying to shut a discussion down by stating “I’M OFFENDED!”.

So what? Double reason she ought not have power of life and death over a dog, or any animal.

Are you seriously arguing that because she suffers an intellectual disability she should not be allowed to have a pet?

Yes?

This woman can’t even take care of her plants properly. Who the hell waters desert-adapted plants every two days? Hello, waterlogged roots?

Watson 11:37 am 27 Jul 11

EvanJames said :

Children lack empathy and an understanding of cause and effect.

BS! Empathy and understanding cause and effect can be taught at a very early age. It’s as if you’re saing that it’s normal for kids to murder people and that it’s futile trying to teach them that that is a rather naughty thing to do until they’re 16.

EvanJames said :

Tetranitrate said :

I’m 99% sure I (vaguely) know the Maryanne in question and the ‘oddness’ and ‘out of touch’ nature of the ad makes perfect sense.
– Congratulations on making fun of an intellectually disabled woman you cretins.

This is like trying to shut a discussion down by stating “I’M OFFENDED!”.

So what? Double reason she ought not have power of life and death over a dog, or any animal.

Are you seriously arguing that because she suffers an intellectual disability she should not be allowed to have a pet?

fgzk 11:17 am 27 Jul 11

Now if only we could treat each other with the respect and care we bestow on our animals.

EvanJames 10:54 am 27 Jul 11

Watson said :

I don’t agree with this generalisation. It all depends on the parents. I have seen little kids mistreat small dogs without their parents interfering and it is indeed atrocious. But that’s bad parents for you, nothing to do with the kids really.

It’s everything to do with the Children, good parents or bad ones. Children lack empathy and an understanding of cause and effect. That’s why you can murder someone until you are 16 and not be fully answerable for the consequences.

Putting a small, fragile animal in the orbit of a child is a time-bomb. Some kids are OK, but I’m afraid the generalisation is there for a reason, it’s valid.

EvanJames 10:49 am 27 Jul 11

Tetranitrate said :

I’m 99% sure I (vaguely) know the Maryanne in question and the ‘oddness’ and ‘out of touch’ nature of the ad makes perfect sense.
– Congratulations on making fun of an intellectually disabled woman you cretins.

This is like trying to shut a discussion down by stating “I’M OFFENDED!”. So what? Double reason she ought not have power of life and death over a dog, or any animal.

Tooks 8:43 am 27 Jul 11

he is a bichon-shitzu blend; it’ll be a real breed one day

No it won’t. Sorry, but I hate this relatively recent trend of breeding mongrel dogs, calling them a cutsie name (Cadoodle, spoodle etc), then charging $1200+ for them. I think it’s ridiculous.

Mongrels use to go for less than $50 (sometimes free) in the weekend CT. Nothing wrong with mongrels/mixed breeds, but call them that, not designer dogs.

INFP 3:06 am 27 Jul 11

Tetranitrate said :

I’m 99% sure I (vaguely) know the Maryanne in question and the ‘oddness’ and ‘out of touch’ nature of the ad makes perfect sense.
– Congratulations on making fun of an intellectually disabled woman you cretins.

I hardly see the replies here as purely “making fun” of this woman. We are pointing out the absurdity and lack of foresight, logic and rationality of her desire for pet ownership. Intellectually disabled or not, it is not wise thinking on her behalf… okay so perhaps her intellect inhibits her from thinking more “responsibly” or realistically…. or even if she was healthy and intellectually sound, these plans of hers stem from a naivety. Sure, you cant blame someone for being ignorant all the time, but that doesnt mean we cannot criticise such thoughts/plans/ideas of a person, healthy or not.

If she is incapacitated somehow intellectually, and really can afford and look after a pet… then I would strongly suggest seeking some form of assistance in teaching her to manage pet ownership… like a temporary nanny that teaches her. If such a thing exists. Wouldnt be cheap but its better than dreaming of the fairytale love from a dog but not having the right methods and knowledge to make the best life for the dog.

Am I being too fanatical about this? I just feel that animals deserve so much more than a lot of people provide them. It is devastating.

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