Minister Hargreaves promises the world to Causeway residents

johnboy 19 February 2009 31

Our Minister for Housing, Mr John Hargreaves, has announced that he’ll do what ever it takes to get the Causeway public housing residents to pipe down.

    “Firstly, and most importantly, if there is a redevelopment of the Causeway and there is public housing in there, current residents will have the first offer of that accommodation.

    Secondly, no one will be forced to stay there if they don’t like the type of redevelopment and the accommodation there.

    Finally, if people want to move, no one will be asked to move to or even be made an offer to move to an apartment, elsewhere in Canberra.

Will that be enough?


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wishuwell wishuwell 10:17 am 20 Feb 09

The first three words of this article “Minister Hargreaves promises …” should of been the trigger for a mass turn off.

jakez jakez 10:07 am 20 Feb 09

Thumper said :

It’s called community jakez.

And just because one maybe from a lower socioeconomic group it doesn’t exist.

The people living on the causeway will be screwed over simply because the ACT government can make big money by selling the area to developers.

So much for human rights hey? I find it all quite sad actually.

They have one hell of a community Thumper. They can keep it when they can pay for it or find people to voluntarily do that for them.

For the record, Causeway pride is not a human right, never will be a human right, and this will not be the last time I reject provisions of the UN Declarations of Human Rights.

SheepGroper SheepGroper 9:23 am 20 Feb 09

Thumper said :

Maybe so, but it is their home, and has been for many, many years.

But hey, you can’t get in the way of progress hey? Especially when it fills the government coffers and keeps the developers happy.

No, it’s because they’re renters, and therefore have no security of tenure. No matter what bonds develop between a group of tenants, ultimately they’re vulnerable to what the owner of the property wants to do with it.

willo willo 8:24 am 20 Feb 09

the causeway will definately dissapear sooner or later….and as the residents are government housing tenants perhaps the gov should look at trying to help those residents to move on from government housing into their own homes….not all will be able of course but i’m sure with a bit of assistance a fair percentage will be.

Thumper Thumper 8:00 am 20 Feb 09

I understand the sense of community loss that these residents will feel, but the Causeway is in a lousy location, wedged between the train station and a power substation, and there are bugger-all amenities in the neighbourhood

Maybe so, but it is their home, and has been for many, many years.

But hey, you can’t get in the way of progress hey? Especially when it fills the government coffers and keeps the developers happy.

2604 2604 10:53 pm 19 Feb 09

Thumper said :

The people living on the causeway will be screwed over simply because the ACT government can make big money by selling the area to developers.

Yeah, although the money the gov’t will make from the sales can (at least in theory) purchase many more public housing dwellings than are in the Causeway. Stanhope and co are so far to the left that this may actually occur.

I understand the sense of community loss that these residents will feel, but the Causeway is in a lousy location, wedged between the train station and a power substation, and there are bugger-all amenities in the neighbourhood.

Thumper Thumper 9:47 pm 19 Feb 09

It’s called community jakez.

And just because one maybe from a lower socioeconomic group it doesn’t exist.

The people living on the causeway will be screwed over simply because the ACT government can make big money by selling the area to developers.

So much for human rights hey? I find it all quite sad actually.

MWF MWF 9:46 pm 19 Feb 09

poptop said :

However it is not about a need to demolish serviceable housing to increase densities and all to do with gentrification of the locale.

Yep. I wholeheartedly agree.

bd84 bd84 8:51 pm 19 Feb 09

I see no problems, the tenants will all be provided with some other form of housing if they are sold off. The high density areas of housing will all eventually go, to stop the housing slums that exist in most states. The tenants ultimately go where there is a vacancy (within other needs too) and are not guaranteed a house in a particular area.

jakez jakez 4:40 pm 19 Feb 09

I think all the Causeway residents should get ‘Causeway Pride’ tattoos, just like that brilliant topic a few years ago on RiotACT. What was it? Belco pride and the number 2620?

I have to say if anyone develops some sort of attachment to a public housing slum, then that is reason enough to get rid of it.

Kramer Kramer 3:35 pm 19 Feb 09

I’m sure the train station & yards, and miniture railway add sufficient character to the area – and the new residents will do their best to have them closed.

proofpositive proofpositive 2:54 pm 19 Feb 09

It could add character to the area to retain its own mini slum.

chewy14 chewy14 2:31 pm 19 Feb 09

The plans for this area and for the whole of Eastlake have been known for some time and unfortunately the people of The Causeway are not part of them.
But hey, if people are willing to pay the stupid prices for the units around this area, the government would be mad not to redevelop.
As for the people of The Causeway, as Kramer said, beggars can’t be choosers

poptop poptop 2:15 pm 19 Feb 09

They are subject to exactly the same tenancy laws as other ACT tenants.

I don’t entirely agree with the idea that Government landlords should be able to behave in the same commercial way as private landlords (in which case, why bother having them?).

Being a social landlord implies some additional standards. That is partly why they get taxpayers money.

Igglepiggle Igglepiggle 1:58 pm 19 Feb 09

Kramer said :

I figure the current Causeway residents in govt owned properties should be subject to the usual tennancy laws. If the owner (in this case the govt) wants to discontinue their tennancy so they can redevelop the site, then give the tennants notice, and offer another accomodation choice. If they don’t like it they can rent privately – beggars can’t be choosers.

This is pretty much what I was going to say- when my last landlord decided to sell despite our having been there several years, it was here’s your notice and bad luck. And here, the landlord is the government, and sure its a real pain to have to move from somewhere you are settled, but thats life when you’re a renter. And guess what- not all of us private renters are living in our first preference location either- more where we can afford.

Kramer Kramer 1:39 pm 19 Feb 09

I figure the current Causeway residents in govt owned properties should be subject to the usual tennancy laws. If the owner (in this case the govt) wants to discontinue their tennancy so they can redevelop the site, then give the tennants notice, and offer another accomodation choice. If they don’t like it they can rent privately – beggars can’t be choosers.

I’m not real keen on the places they have been building at the Kingston Foreshore (except a few of the big, massively overpriced penthouses), but they seem to be selling. So if there’s a market, then why not develop the area – it will keep the Canberra economy moving, and further build the property market.

VYBerlinaV8_the_one_they_all_copy VYBerlinaV8_the_one_they_all_copy 1:38 pm 19 Feb 09

What ‘Human Rights’ exactly are being taken away??

proofpositive proofpositive 1:28 pm 19 Feb 09

Everyone not involved with the Causeway redevelopment can relax, the residents on the other hand should prepare to arm themselves with flaming torches and pitchforks to fight to protect their rights to protect whatever their human rights are that Hargreaves is taking away.

As usual everything the Government is promising at the moment is aspirational only.

VYBerlinaV8_the_one_they_all_copy VYBerlinaV8_the_one_they_all_copy 11:42 am 19 Feb 09

OK, I see your point now. Fair enough.

I’m surprised the developers of the Kingston Foreshore think they can sell that many dwellings. The stock they currently have is damn expensive, and not that nice.

poptop poptop 11:35 am 19 Feb 09

VY, I am concerned because I believe the Government is preparing to redevelop the Causeway, not for the reasons you are espousing, but to pander to the wealthier lobby groups.

While these are all rental properties (although I thought a small number had been sold) and so the tenants should understand they have no ownership rights or ultimate security of tenure, the reality is that lots of the people there have been there since the great post-flood rebuild of the Causeway back in the ’70s and some of them from before then.

It’s one thing to redevelop through need and quite a different thing to redevelop to build another Kingston Foreshore, with the added side benefit of getting ride of the unattractive neighbours.

Let the ACT Government demonstrate a capacity to increase stock numbers with the vacant residential land they already have. They can even use the economic stimulus money to build the stock.

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