Music Venue Closures?

chutneyGreen 26 August 2013 44

Hey I am a local CIT student studying PR and for my latest assessment I am researching the Canberra music scene.

I am looking for a list of live music venue closures over the past decade within Canberra. I am exploring the link between noise complaints made by neighbouring residential developments and the closure of venues.

An example would be the closure of Toast due to noise complaints made by The Waldorf Hotel. I believe nearby Transit Bar has also had to reduce it’s live music capacity due to similar complaints from The Waldorf.

Also looking for facts and figures on closures and live music attendance over the past decade.
If anyone has any ideas or links they would like to share I would be very appreciative 🙂

Even email me separately cagreen@live.com.au

Thanks 🙂


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niftydog niftydog 9:55 am 29 Aug 13

Oh yeah. It’s not actually closed, but what about Tilleys? Their decision to basically stop hosting gigs has had a massive detrimental impact on the quality of gigs in town. So many fantastic gigs there; Bob Brozman (RIP), Karma County, IOTA, Diesel, Vince Jones, Badloves, Gadflys, Lior, Mike Stern (!), Tiddas…

niftydog niftydog 9:47 am 29 Aug 13

grunge_hippy said :

…lack of mid sized venues …Royal Theatre or Canberra Theatre

John Butler Trio at Canberra Theatre was… interesting. He was encouraging people to break the rules and dance in the isles. He did return some months later with a more intimate show with his wife which suited the venue quite well.

grunge_hippy said :

He said that if they were to play UC or ANU they have to bring everything with them (stage, rigs etc) which makes it too expensive.

Do they even have bands anymore at ANU???

The former owner of the Greenroom is now the in-house supplier at the ANU; his equipment nearly perpetually set up in the refectory and would definitely suit these type of mid-size gigs.

bundah bundah 11:00 pm 28 Aug 13

chutneyGreen said :

Can anyone tell me the exact year that the Asylum closed down?

It was around 1997. The owner was Craig Azzopardi.

Jungle Jim Jungle Jim 10:19 pm 28 Aug 13

chutneyGreen said :

Ronald_Coase said :

Thanks for the memories! Still remember the last night at the Terrace, well mostly remember anyway.

I can’t believe I’d forgotten about Asylum and Gypsy bars. The Asylum was very appropriately named, especially given acid is the poorer cousin of ecstasy.

And, while not officially closed I nominate the ANU bar. It is a shadow of its formerly dodgy self. Whatever happened to the regulars of the outside table next to the wall?

Can anyone tell me the exact year that the Asylum closed down?

I’m gonna go out on a limb and say 1993… My memory is hazy at best though.

chutneyGreen chutneyGreen 10:09 pm 28 Aug 13

Ronald_Coase said :

Thanks for the memories! Still remember the last night at the Terrace, well mostly remember anyway.

I can’t believe I’d forgotten about Asylum and Gypsy bars. The Asylum was very appropriately named, especially given acid is the poorer cousin of ecstasy.

And, while not officially closed I nominate the ANU bar. It is a shadow of its formerly dodgy self. Whatever happened to the regulars of the outside table next to the wall?

Can anyone tell me the exact year that the Asylum closed down?

chutneyGreen chutneyGreen 10:07 pm 28 Aug 13

grunge_hippy said :

I was speaking to a well known Australian artist about venues in Canberra. He said that there is a definite lack of mid sized venues and that’s why hardly anyone comes to Canberra. (well, one reason at least) It’s either the Royal Theatre or Canberra Theatre and that’s it they are hardly “rock” venues. I have one friend who refuses to go to Royal Theatre, even if he likes the band.

This artists last incarnation sold out Royal Theatre twice (and did back in 2003) and they then moved to tents/festival style, but this time as a solo artist, he barely filled the Royal Theatre. He said that if they were to play UC or ANU they have to bring everything with them (stage, rigs etc) which makes it too expensive.

His previous band also had their start at the asylum back in the day. I wish I had seen them there, would have been awesome. I did see them however at ANU a few times before they got stupid big, but its not a great venue. Do they even have bands anymore at ANU???

Not strictly related to venue closures but if there were more of those types of venues around, we might get more artists coming to Canberra.

Hey this is great feedback so thanks! I’d love to know who the artist is *hint hint* 🙂
Ha ha but understand your discretion.
This is exactly what my original research and the general opinion of Canberra locals has shown:
a) that the smaller venues left in Canberra are too small for many well-known interstate acts
b) the larger venues are too large for Canberra artists to play or don’t have that ‘rock’ appeal like you mentioned for interstate artists, or
c) the larger venues are still too small for the larger overseas bands eg. Tool and Black Sabbath (which has also bring the festival issue into things.. we just don’t have somewhere suitable to stage a BDO or similar)

Masquara Masquara 9:56 pm 28 Aug 13

Dorette’s (where the Hippo is) – jazz and cabaret …

Evil_Kitten Evil_Kitten 9:19 pm 28 Aug 13

In more recent times, The Maram closed only a couple of years ago. I saw a popular JJJ band there about 3 years ago – it was a great for mid-size acts as you could get really close and be part of it. Such a shame, as there’s a lack of places Southside.

http://the-riotact.com/the-demise-of-the-maram/62255

Thumper Thumper 9:14 pm 28 Aug 13

grunge_hippy said :

I was speaking to a well known Australian artist about venues in Canberra. He said that there is a definite lack of mid sized venues and that’s why hardly anyone comes to Canberra. (well, one reason at least) It’s either the Royal Theatre or Canberra Theatre and that’s it they are hardly “rock” venues. I have one friend who refuses to go to Royal Theatre, even if he likes the band.

This artists last incarnation sold out Royal Theatre twice (and did back in 2003) and they then moved to tents/festival style, but this time as a solo artist, he barely filled the Royal Theatre. He said that if they were to play UC or ANU they have to bring everything with them (stage, rigs etc) which makes it too expensive.

His previous band also had their start at the asylum back in the day. I wish I had seen them there, would have been awesome. I did see them however at ANU a few times before they got stupid big, but its not a great venue. Do they even have bands anymore at ANU???

Not strictly related to venue closures but if there were more of those types of venues around, we might get more artists coming to Canberra.

I saw Brain Jonestown Massacre at ANU earlier this year. Best gig I have ever been to.

Thumper Thumper 9:02 pm 28 Aug 13

Dagget66 said :

The Henry Grattan in Phillip was a pretty full on covers venue … not sure why it closed …
Royals used to have a bit flow of interstate main stream type acts …. I can ( in the dim blurry past ) remember seeing The Angels , The Radiators , The Divinyls etc there , and it was shut down for noise issues iirc … played there a few times myself in support slots ….
Raiders in Queanbeyan was the same big name acts / local supports …. Noise issues apparently …
The 80’s and 90’s were so good to be in a band in Canberra 🙂

Yeah… I miss the 90s. I was playing two- three- four gigs a week for $100+ a night. I was making more money than my day job…

grunge_hippy grunge_hippy 7:33 pm 28 Aug 13

I was speaking to a well known Australian artist about venues in Canberra. He said that there is a definite lack of mid sized venues and that’s why hardly anyone comes to Canberra. (well, one reason at least) It’s either the Royal Theatre or Canberra Theatre and that’s it they are hardly “rock” venues. I have one friend who refuses to go to Royal Theatre, even if he likes the band. This artists last incarnation sold out Royal Theatre twice (and did back in 2003) and they then moved to tents/festival style, but this time as a solo artist, he barely filled the Royal Theatre. He said that if they were to play UC or ANU they have to bring everything with them (stage, rigs etc) which makes it too expensive.

His previous band also had their start at the asylum back in the day. I wish I had seen them there, would have been awesome. I did see them however at ANU a few times before they got stupid big, but its not a great venue. Do they even have bands anymore at ANU???

Not strictly related to venue closures but if there were more of those types of venues around, we might get more artists coming to Canberra.

Ronald_Coase Ronald_Coase 6:11 pm 28 Aug 13

Thanks for the memories! Still remember the last night at the Terrace, well mostly remember anyway.

I can’t believe I’d forgotten about Asylum and Gypsy bars. The Asylum was very appropriately named, especially given acid is the poorer cousin of ecstasy.

And, while not officially closed I nominate the ANU bar. It is a shadow of its formerly dodgy self. Whatever happened to the regulars of the outside table next to the wall?

Dagget66 Dagget66 3:41 pm 28 Aug 13

The Henry Grattan in Phillip was a pretty full on covers venue … not sure why it closed …
Royals used to have a bit flow of interstate main stream type acts …. I can ( in the dim blurry past ) remember seeing The Angels , The Radiators , The Divinyls etc there , and it was shut down for noise issues iirc … played there a few times myself in support slots ….
Raiders in Queanbeyan was the same big name acts / local supports …. Noise issues apparently …
The 80’s and 90’s were so good to be in a band in Canberra 🙂

bundah bundah 2:37 pm 28 Aug 13

PBO said :

I have heard a rumour that the Basement wants to cut out bands.

Really, and replace them with what exactly? Karaoke..

devils_advocate devils_advocate 2:24 pm 28 Aug 13

Jim Jones said :

PBO said :

I have heard a rumour that the Basement wants to cut out bands.

Nope.

LOL, cut out bands and remove their client base completely. Seems legit.

devils_advocate devils_advocate 2:23 pm 28 Aug 13

chutneyGreen said :

Grimm said :

Pretty much every place that had metal bands on regularly. Some of these are more than a decade ago, but all closed due to noise complaints:

The Asylum
Circus Circus
Terrace Bar
Zorros
The Gypsy Bar (Twice)
The Rock Ape

Could you specify where The Asylum, Circus Circus and Zorros used to be located please?

Zorros was in the civic bus interchange, where downstairs shooters is now.

So many good memories. You would pay $8 and get a jug of beer and a ticket. After midnight, you could redeem the ticket for another jug. But they basically closed b/c of teh smoking ban, I remember the first night it came into effect walked in there and it was deserted. And for the first time could see all the way to the other side of the bar.

Jim Jones Jim Jones 1:40 pm 28 Aug 13

PBO said :

I have heard a rumour that the Basement wants to cut out bands.

Nope.

PBO PBO 12:26 pm 28 Aug 13

I have heard a rumour that the Basement wants to cut out bands.

chutneyGreen chutneyGreen 11:17 am 28 Aug 13

Just wondering, to make my facts more succinct, could anyone provide me with the year that these bars closed?

Masquara Masquara 9:19 pm 27 Aug 13

Downstairs at the old Rex, and there was also a fantastic venue downstairs either next door to the old YWCA in the bus exchange, or the building next door. I can’t remember the name, but it was excellent. Late 1980s …

And, for the oldsters, Flloyds upstairs in one of those u-shaped streets in Phillip …

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