25 November 2012

Name Canberra Airport?

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Seems like a good idea.

Better then Snowtown or some lame pollie.

Change.org have a petition.

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bundah said :

I wonder how many more office buildings Snow wants to construct in and around the airport? Surely enough already!

I’m sure there’s still room for a casino, fairground and the 40 000 seat convention centre.

Anyway, he’ll probably keep building until there’s a fatal air accident involving a light aircraft and building-induced windshear!

Masquara said :

One of the reasons to dislike the Canberra Airport’s Snow family is that their infamous and high-handed plan for the centre of Canberra involved turning Anzac Parade into a commuter road, and trashing the Hellenic Memorial. Needless to say, they had gone to a UK company that didn’t even bother to visit Canberra and find out what was important to keep. So Canberra Airport is on the nose by dint of simply belonging to the Snowtowners.

I’m pretty sure even the Snows couldnt turn ANZAC parade into a commuter road, given that it goes from nowhere useful to nowhere useful (talking just of commuter use here). I think you will find it was Constitution Avenue, which at the time was being discussed quite widely as a road that should be upgraded and changed, with lots more retail and residential (which I gather is the original Griffin plan).

However, the development of Civic west has probably put paid to the need to upgrade Consitution Ave at the moment. Nonetheless, Consitution Avenue is currently a bit of a nothing road that needs a bit of thought. I dont know about the Hellenic Memorial, but memorials can be moved without detracting from the value of the memorial.

bundah said :

I wonder how many more office buildings Snow wants to construct in and around the airport? Surely enough already!

well, ‘enough’ given the current access to them etc – but improved access, transport and such, and amenity would make this spot a good location for business and i see no reason why growth should stop. build, and they will come. if the airport wants to become a hub, it will need accommodation and service for this, and businesses geared to travel. be a nice spot for a high-speed rail station, too…

bundah said :

I wonder how many more office buildings Snow wants to construct in and around the airport? Surely enough already!

He’d keep building on every patch of ground given his druthers. However, he still has two big empty new buildings at Majura Park that are sitting empty… he has to pay people to spray the dust and spiders off them periodically, but there they sit, like the Marie Celeste.

I think some of the new ones near the end of the southern end of the runway are still mostly empty too. I imagine he’s thinking now about maybe accommodation… he has an airport hotel on the immediate plans, but perhaps a small suburb will go up next. There’s all that space around Fairbairn…

I wonder how many more office buildings Snow wants to construct in and around the airport? Surely enough already!

Mark of Sydney9:19 am 27 Nov 12

johnboy said :

Mark of Sydney said :

Have noticed that the Snows don’t seem to be popular with Riotactors (though why their sort of get up and go, free enterprise spirit would be unpopular with a Liberal Party supporter is a mystery), but I’m curious: when did they propose a plan for the centre of Canberra?

And turning Anzac Parade into a commuter road? Well isn’t it? What else is a six lane road for?

By the way, I have no involvement or contact with, or interest in the Snows or the airport — except that as an occasional air traveller I like what they’re doing with it.

Well there’s a whole swag of incorrect generalisations.

Not sure what the ‘swag’ of incorrect generalisations covers, but if you’re including the Liberal Party reference it was to ‘a [singular] Liberal Party’ supporter not to Riotactors generally.

The airport is constantly coming up with all kinds of plans for many bits of Canberra, which they helpfully have professionally drafted up before putting them to the government. They don’t let petty considerations like memorials, public amenity or peoples’ homes bother them, after all, this is PROGRESS.

The latest that I’m aware-of is their blocking the erection of quite a good bit of public art (which has already been purchased and is probably sitting in a shed somewhere) on one of the roads near the airport, as they’d just put up a similar bit of art and didn’t like the competition, although their justification was that they “had plans” for that bit of road. It’s not their bit of road, yet they “have plans” for it.

Mark of Sydney said :

Have noticed that the Snows don’t seem to be popular with Riotactors (though why their sort of get up and go, free enterprise spirit would be unpopular with a Liberal Party supporter is a mystery), but I’m curious: when did they propose a plan for the centre of Canberra?

And turning Anzac Parade into a commuter road? Well isn’t it? What else is a six lane road for?

By the way, I have no involvement or contact with, or interest in the Snows or the airport — except that as an occasional air traveller I like what they’re doing with it.

Well there’s a whole swag of incorrect generalisations.

Mark of Sydney8:58 am 27 Nov 12

Masquara said :

One of the reasons to dislike the Canberra Airport’s Snow family is that their infamous and high-handed plan for the centre of Canberra involved turning Anzac Parade into a commuter road, and trashing the Hellenic Memorial. Needless to say, they had gone to a UK company that didn’t even bother to visit Canberra and find out what was important to keep. So Canberra Airport is on the nose by dint of simply belonging to the Snowtowners.

Have noticed that the Snows don’t seem to be popular with Riotactors (though why their sort of get up and go, free enterprise spirit would be unpopular with a Liberal Party supporter is a mystery), but I’m curious: when did they propose a plan for the centre of Canberra?

And turning Anzac Parade into a commuter road? Well isn’t it? What else is a six lane road for?

By the way, I have no involvement or contact with, or interest in the Snows or the airport — except that as an occasional air traveller I like what they’re doing with it.

One of the reasons to dislike the Canberra Airport’s Snow family is that their infamous and high-handed plan for the centre of Canberra involved turning Anzac Parade into a commuter road, and trashing the Hellenic Memorial. Needless to say, they had gone to a UK company that didn’t even bother to visit Canberra and find out what was important to keep. So Canberra Airport is on the nose by dint of simply belonging to the Snowtowners.

LSWCHP said :

c_c™ said :

So much hate for Canberra Airport… again. Seems every thread on hear about the Airport or anything related to it brings out a truck load of sniping. What gives?

Perhaps you’d rather it returned to the era where it was a rusty, asbestos shed in a f-king paddock?

Childish.

Thank you for your contribution Mr Snow.

Heh. Pretty-much what I was thinking, another whiny airport stooge. I hope people never forget what they did to a hitherto-functional road, and stay suspicous about everything they continue to try to pull over us.

How about ‘Brand Depot Memorial Regional Airstrip and Parking Station’?

c_c™ said :

So much hate for Canberra Airport… again. Seems every thread on hear about the Airport or anything related to it brings out a truck load of sniping. What gives?

Perhaps you’d rather it returned to the era where it was a rusty, asbestos shed in a f-king paddock?

Childish.

Thank you for your contribution Mr Snow.

How about ‘Indigenous Invasion International’?

c_c™ said :

So much hate for Canberra Airport… again. Seems every thread on hear about the Airport or anything related to it brings out a truck load of sniping. What gives?

Perhaps you’d rather it returned to the era where it was a rusty, asbestos shed in a f-king paddock?

Childish.

Is that you, CT’s John Thistleton.

How much is Snow paying you?

So much hate for Canberra Airport… again. Seems every thread on hear about the Airport or anything related to it brings out a truck load of sniping. What gives?

Perhaps you’d rather it returned to the era where it was a rusty, asbestos shed in a f-king paddock?

Childish.

gentoopenguin5:45 pm 26 Nov 12

gospeedygo said :

Windy Valley Stopover

+1

Bus Stop with Wings

dungfungus said :

It should be re-named “Stanhope Interrelational Airport” as a tribute to the man and his reason for sharing his public art with us.

Yeah, but the art on display at the airport is actually interesting.

Deckard said :

I figured John Stanhope would be a given.

There’s a precedent with other airports like JFK and Ronald Reagan named after famous world leaders. Surely John deserves one as well.

I agree.
It should be re-named “Stanhope Interrelational Airport” as a tribute to the man and his reason for sharing his public art with us.

Madam Cholet said :

Agree, good on Eva for showing initiative, however I do have to say that being reminded of black box voice recorders when I’m about to fly is not high on my list of things to think about.

Then again, being reminded of the safety technology which has gone into aviation since the wright brothers became the first people to get airborne without killing themselves is probably not a bad thing either.

Doesnt Stephen Byron want to name it “Canberra High Speed Rail Link Terminal 1”?

Alderney said :

EvanJames said :

I know! Let’s name it… Canberra Airport? There’s only one, it’s not like you’re going to confuse it with another (the one behind Hume possible?). Haven’t Change.org got anything better to campaign on?

Sometimes the most obvious answer is the best one.

Beats doing what they do with the football stadiums etc. They’re playing at Endevour Field this week, sorry Ronson Park, I mean Caltex Field, oh f#%# it’s at Shark Park…ohhh forget it…

Hmm, Bruce Airport?

Madam Cholet1:21 pm 26 Nov 12

Agree, good on Eva for showing initiative, however I do have to say that being reminded of black box voice recorders when I’m about to fly is not high on my list of things to think about.

Alderney said :

EvanJames said :

I know! Let’s name it… Canberra Airport? There’s only one, it’s not like you’re going to confuse it with another (the one behind Hume possible?). Haven’t Change.org got anything better to campaign on?

Sometimes the most obvious answer is the best one.

Beats doing what they do with the football stadiums etc. They’re playing at Endevour Field this week, sorry Ronson Park, I mean Caltex Field, oh f#%# it’s at Shark Park…ohhh forget it…

For things like stadiums where they sell naming rights to a sponsor, yes this can happen, but since we’re not offering to sell naming rights to the airport, I can’t see how this is relevant.

I personally don’t see a problem with this, and as such I’ve added my name to the petition. If you really feel that strongly about keeping the airport’s name the same, why not put up a counter petition, something along the lines of “save Canberra Airports name”?

EvanJames said :

I know! Let’s name it… Canberra Airport? There’s only one, it’s not like you’re going to confuse it with another (the one behind Hume possible?). Haven’t Change.org got anything better to campaign on?

Sometimes the most obvious answer is the best one.

Beats doing what they do with the football stadiums etc. They’re playing at Endevour Field this week, sorry Ronson Park, I mean Caltex Field, oh f#%# it’s at Shark Park…ohhh forget it…

the airport of canberra – let’s add our own twist

I’d have no problem with CBR being named after David Warren. He is an Australian who has made a difference to aviation the world over.

10 years old or otherwise, Eve Cogan makes a good point in her petition…

I figured John Stanhope would be a given.

There’s a precedent with other airports like JFK and Ronald Reagan named after famous world leaders. Surely John deserves one as well.

Can’t we name it after Justin Bieber, Gough Whitlam or Bryce Courtney?

I’d call it CockupVille, or Confusionburg or something similar.

For example, if you’re going away for a couple of days and want to park your car there overnight, you need to drive in through the lane marked “arrivals”, even though you’re departing because that’s how you get to the long stay parking. This seems deliberately perverse, akin to the old MS-Windows sequence of keypresses that required you to press the “Start” button in order to shut the computer down.

Overall, the parking arrangements and traffic flow, and almost total absence of meaningful signage make the place far more difficult to navigate than it should be.

Of course, it could just be the OldTimers disease kicking in….:-)

How about the Leslie Neilsen memorial airport? (Neilsen starred in Flying High).

Lookout Smithers5:32 pm 25 Nov 12

The Best example of a bad design. It is literally the most annoying space to move through. Lucky there is not a significant amount of traffic moving through it.

call it Tralee/South Sydney dirt runway

He wouldn’t call it Brindabella International Airport,would he?

CanbeRra AirPort ==> CRAP?

EvanJames said :

Haven’t Change.org got anything better to campaign on?

Change.org is the provider of the hosting service where people can put petitions, ‘they’ don’t campaign.

Canberra Airport will always be known as Canberra Airport and retain the CBR code just as Sydney has despite the Kingsford Smith name. And naming it in honour of someone whose innovation has done so much to improve air safety is a nice idea, certainly a better one than the addition of ‘International’ to the name.

I don’t see a problem and good on the kid for putting in the effort.

How about naming it after Nancy Bird-Walton, if it really needs another name? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nancy_Bird_Walton

Having an airport called Bird airport would be good too, apart from her many achievements.

Gateway to Queanbeyan Airport.

Not one “please” in that petition. I tell ya, kids these days just expect everything their way.

See http://www.news.com.au/travel/campaign-to-honour-aussie-black-box-inventor/story-e6frfq7r-1226522228613

As to renaming the airport – as much as Dr Warren has an involvement with aviation, he has had no (that I can see) involvement with Canberra and so not necessarily a good choice. Sydney Airport is known as Kingsford Smith Airport or a combination of these two names. Thus any “name” given to Canberra will still cause the airport to be known as Canberra Airport.

Full marks to the 10yr old though.

EvanJames said :

I know! Let’s name it… Canberra Airport? There’s only one, it’s not like you’re going to confuse it with another (the one behind Hume possible?). Haven’t Change.org got anything better to campaign on?

Go easy on the change-org petitioner! She’s 10 years old apparently.

I agree – Canberra Airport.

Windy Valley Stopover

I know! Let’s name it… Canberra Airport? There’s only one, it’s not like you’re going to confuse it with another (the one behind Hume possible?). Haven’t Change.org got anything better to campaign on?

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