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Name of alleged Conder paedophile released [With poll on the matter of bail]

By kepayne 19 April 2012 54

The name of the man to have committed seven sexual offences against a twelve year old boy (four acts of indecency, two sex acts and one count of using the internet to deprave young people) has been released in an article by ABC News today.

Michael David Watt, a 25 year old youth worker from Conder, allegedly committed the offences when the boy was in his care between November 16, 2011 and February 23 of this year.

Michael was granted bail by the ACT Magistrates Court, despite the prosecution opposing bail saying that they feared for other children.

Magistrate David Mossop granted bail on the conditions Watt surrender his passport, report to police, not contact the victim or work with children.

This isn’t the first time Watt has been accused of child sex offences according to the Canberra Times.

And the ACT Magistrates Court also heard the Conder man had been accused of child-sex offences in New Zealand but there was no evidence charges were laid.

I don’t know about you, but I’m not a fan of this guy walking around until his next court date next month, even if he’s ‘not allowed to work with children any more’.

What do you guys think?

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UPDATE 19/04/12 11:04: Canberra Grammar School have posted an Important Notice from the Head in relation to this.

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kepayne 9:51 pm 20 Apr 12

Tetranitrate said :

kepayne said :

Tetranitrate said :

BearBuns said :

If you personally think that there is nothing wrong with downloading child porn, then by all means argue away.

That’s just plain intellectual dishonesty.
In the very post you quoted I specifically said:

They’re a sick f*ck who needs to be dealt with before they commit an offence in person, but don’t make absurd claims of a causal link that isn’t there.
It’s most certainly necessary that the state intervene, punish, counsel and keep a very close eye on anyone who’s found in possession of CP of course (particularly the latter).”[/QUOTE]

Hmm guess I should clarify. What I meant was WHY would you be playing devil’s advocate on an article like this? WHY would you have anything to say in the child porn industry’s defence? I know that you said above that you don’t agree with the industry and I don’t for a second think that you do… so why not just say that?

All I was saying was that your movie industry argument doesn’t hold much weight. Can we move on now and all agree that we don’t like child porn and child abuse?

madimum 9:50 pm 20 Apr 12

Firstly I would like to commend Riot for posting this story and getting the information out there and for getting a discussion happening. Pity we don’t talk about this more freely.

From a mum’s point of view it scares the hell out of me that someone like this was put in a position of trust to already vunerable children, why weren’t more checks done? It is something that I worry about with my kids and hope as a family we never have to experience.

I don’t think he should have been let out on bail, the fact that he may not be a flight risk is minor compared to the fact that he will more than likely reoffend before his court date. The courts have a lot to answer for to have let someone like this back out into society. I do believe that everyone should have their day in court to have their side told. But when it comes to the fact that the a ‘system’ already failed us once in protection and the fact this man has previous enquiries about his past then they should have held him on bail.

Personally I think anyone who gets their jollies looking at naked kid pictures are just as bad as those who then go on to act on their fanatsy. I do think that looking is only the start before they need progress to something more to get their fix. I don’t think that any person who does any crime against a minor should be given the liberty to stay in society, they should be locked up for not only their safety but for all those around them and to restrict any access to what they may see as their fantasy.

Tetranitrate 3:45 pm 20 Apr 12

kepayne said :

Tetranitrate said :

BearBuns said :

If you personally think that there is nothing wrong with downloading child porn, then by all means argue away.

That’s just plain intellectual dishonesty.
In the very post you quoted I specifically said:

They’re a sick f*ck who needs to be dealt with before they commit an offence in person, but don’t make absurd claims of a causal link that isn’t there.
It’s most certainly necessary that the state intervene, punish, counsel and keep a very close eye on anyone who’s found in possession of CP of course (particularly the latter).”[/QUOTE]

deejay 2:57 pm 20 Apr 12

I gave a qualified “yes.”

As in; “Yes he should be allowed bail, if he promises to off himself quietly when out.”

As someone who has had a father and a fiance commit suicide in separate instances after allegations of this type of misconduct – one case definitively proven false, one case probably true – I can tell you that the tacit gentleman’s agreement in police circles to give men, especially older men, time to kill themselves before being taken into custody is abominable. It does not help those making the allegations, who are left with an enormous legacy of guilt (although in the case of those making false allegations, it’s deserved). It does not help the families of those accused, who will live with was-he-or-wasn’t-he-guilty forever. It does not distinguish between the guilty and the innocent, who face just as much shame and ruin. Rightly or wrongly, we do not have capital punishment in this country, and to create systems that actively encourage an informal death penalty is wrong.

kepayne 2:41 pm 20 Apr 12

Truthiness said :

Firstly, I am saddened that my comments in this thread have led people to wish harm upon me, and that some think I need help. I am certainly not promoting the idea of child porn in any way and am sorry for even bringing up the topic in relation to an unrelated case.

That said, I do feel the focus is not on the worst offenders, politicians, police, lawyers, clergy and foreign dignitaries who organise and protect child exploitation rings. We know they do it, because they keep being caught.

MP Terry Martin http://aussiecriminals.wordpress.com/2011/11/18/pedophile-ex-mp-terry-martin/
MP Bob Collins http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bob_Collins_%28politician%29
MP Leslie Logan: http://www.abc.net.au/news/2012-03-19/former-mp-named-in-sex-abuse-inquiry/3899130
Peter Versi http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/news/sydney-nsw/developer-peter-versi-named-as-sex-abuser/story-e6freuzi-1226325298562
Corrupt police protect pedophile judge: http://loveforlife.com.au/node/4686
Not to mention the hundreds of priests who have avoided punishment after their crimes were revealed. http://blogs.news.com.au/heraldsun/seewhatsusiesays/index.php/heraldsun/comments/pedophile_priests_deserve_to_be_named_and_shamed/

I could go on and on and on, but what we see time and again is that when these people do get caught, the rest of the ring is not brought down with them. Time and again we have people coming forward and claiming just such a powerful ring exists, protected by the police: http://www.hiddenmysteries.org/conspiracy/coverups/aussiechildabuse3.html

And as others have said, this is not just an Australian thing, there have been rings like this found in Europe and America, South America, Asia and Russia. In fact every continent on earth is home to these corrupt and powerful rings, trading children’s lives. For a bit more background on just how endemic this problem is, I urge you to check out this Discovery channel investigation into an American child prostitution ring, which was banned from broadcast after pressure from politicians, lawyers and police. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=weSzkIB8184

Every case of child abuse is heinous and wrong, viewing the images of such crimes is not right either, however it is not actually the same thing as abusing the child. What really gets my goat is that for every offender the media and police are happy to throw under the bus, a hundred other high profile offenders gets let off the hook. There are kids being traded into prostitution in this very city, and the best our police can do is track down a teacher with a previous record after a child comes to them. Where is the investigation into the child trafficking? Where is the investigation into the politicians who use this city as their sick playground, or the diplomats who have children shipped in from their country of choice.

We are barely scratching the surface, and the more the media focuses on individual cases like this, painting paedophiles as lonely strangers, the more they miss the far greater problems which are much deeper within our society.

I think that you got people’s backs up when you started off defending those that download child porn. Apart from the fact that it was incredibly creepy, it was really irrelevant as well.

Now I kinda see what you were trying to say. Next time, start off with that instead

kepayne 2:29 pm 20 Apr 12

Tetranitrate said :

BearBuns said :

Every person that downloads these images contributes to the abuse of a child and the destruction of their innocence.

Really? “Downloading music is killing the music industry”, “downloading movies is killing the film industry”, “piracy is killing game developers” but downloading Child Porn HELPS the child porn industry?

I assume you meant to say “purchasing” or something of the sort – I’m not in any way shape or form defending the possession of such images by the way (likely a stepping stone toward offences against real children), but it’s hysterical and absurd to claim somebody merely downloading such material is directly supporting its production.

Unless they’re actually paying for it (which some such offenders presumably are), there’s no incentive to produce further material created by someone downloading the material. They’re a sick f*ck who needs to be dealt with before they commit an offence in person, but don’t make absurd claims of a causal link that isn’t there.
It’s most certainly necessary that the state intervene, punish, counsel and keep a very close eye on anyone who’s found in possession of CP of course (particularly the latter).

Wow…what a terrible argument you have right there. Well done. A more apt comparison would be to look at the steady rise of music, movies and games available for online download as the demand for it increased.

We’re not saying that there is a casual link (though I wouldn’t be shocked if there was). We’re simply saying that child porn is not okay. If you personally think that there is nothing wrong with downloading child porn, then by all means argue away.

Truthiness 2:28 pm 20 Apr 12

Firstly, I am saddened that my comments in this thread have led people to wish harm upon me, and that some think I need help. I am certainly not promoting the idea of child porn in any way and am sorry for even bringing up the topic in relation to an unrelated case.

That said, I do feel the focus is not on the worst offenders, politicians, police, lawyers, clergy and foreign dignitaries who organise and protect child exploitation rings. We know they do it, because they keep being caught.

MP Terry Martin http://aussiecriminals.wordpress.com/2011/11/18/pedophile-ex-mp-terry-martin/
MP Bob Collins http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bob_Collins_%28politician%29
MP Leslie Logan: http://www.abc.net.au/news/2012-03-19/former-mp-named-in-sex-abuse-inquiry/3899130
Peter Versi http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/news/sydney-nsw/developer-peter-versi-named-as-sex-abuser/story-e6freuzi-1226325298562
Corrupt police protect pedophile judge: http://loveforlife.com.au/node/4686
Not to mention the hundreds of priests who have avoided punishment after their crimes were revealed. http://blogs.news.com.au/heraldsun/seewhatsusiesays/index.php/heraldsun/comments/pedophile_priests_deserve_to_be_named_and_shamed/

I could go on and on and on, but what we see time and again is that when these people do get caught, the rest of the ring is not brought down with them. Time and again we have people coming forward and claiming just such a powerful ring exists, protected by the police: http://www.hiddenmysteries.org/conspiracy/coverups/aussiechildabuse3.html

And as others have said, this is not just an Australian thing, there have been rings like this found in Europe and America, South America, Asia and Russia. In fact every continent on earth is home to these corrupt and powerful rings, trading children’s lives. For a bit more background on just how endemic this problem is, I urge you to check out this Discovery channel investigation into an American child prostitution ring, which was banned from broadcast after pressure from politicians, lawyers and police. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=weSzkIB8184

Every case of child abuse is heinous and wrong, viewing the images of such crimes is not right either, however it is not actually the same thing as abusing the child. What really gets my goat is that for every offender the media and police are happy to throw under the bus, a hundred other high profile offenders gets let off the hook. There are kids being traded into prostitution in this very city, and the best our police can do is track down a teacher with a previous record after a child comes to them. Where is the investigation into the child trafficking? Where is the investigation into the politicians who use this city as their sick playground, or the diplomats who have children shipped in from their country of choice.

We are barely scratching the surface, and the more the media focuses on individual cases like this, painting paedophiles as lonely strangers, the more they miss the far greater problems which are much deeper within our society.

HenryBG 1:44 pm 20 Apr 12

Jim Jones said :

HenryBG said :

farq said :

Truthiness said :

Really we should be reopening the CP investigations into politicians and police, you know those investigations that get shut down every time they get too close to the real criminals. There are children being trafficked for sex in Canberra, and there have been for decades, I have had friends who escaped from that life, but it is ignored because the clientele is so exclusive.

Truthiness slips a conspiracy theory of epic proportions in his post and no one called him on it?

This site used to pound crazycheaster for her conspiracies about CIT management, but let one go about a child-sex ring operating above the law?

There *was* a ring of extremely well-connected paedophiles operating in Canberra between the 70’s and 90’s. They were well-acquainted with the bent pervert lawyer John Marsden (who can no longer dishonestly sue people, on account of his being dead, hooray), and John Marsden wasn’t the only member of the legal fraternity of their number. Not by a long shot. In fact, it was a bit of a lawyers’ own boy-molesting club.
The AFP looked into them for a while in the late 90’s and experienced all the same things Channel 7 experienced with Marsden at around the same time: the paedophiles had the best legal advice/training money could buy and they expended inordinate resources on interfering with all the potential witnesses. And the victims were all powerless and scared, damaged and easily discredited.

There have also been large rings of extremely well -cnnected and powerful child-sex traffickers busted across Europe.

Yeah, but we’re talking about the police force that locks up the convenient local nutter after a mafia hit on their own assistant commissioner.

Holden Caulfield 11:05 am 20 Apr 12

DeskMonkey said :

Can they put him under house arrest? Who’s policing his contact with other children or the victim?

That’s a pretty good question and we can only hope there are satisfactory answers.

enfoldeadgrrl 10:10 am 20 Apr 12

far_northact said :

Until we name and shame every child sex offender, and make these offensive topics common conversation, kids won’t feel that its something they can discuss and raise with their parents and they keep the shame, and secret to themselves. It needs to be a conversation every parent has with their child, nephews, nieces etc…. the more its discussed – the less shame and ‘taboo’ there is about this, and the more reporting will occur. IMO

+1
This site http://safelyeverafter.com/tips.html has some great ideas on it for ways to help teach your children ways to suss out and stay away from ‘tricky people’ . I think it’s a good resource for parents.

Jim Jones 9:15 am 20 Apr 12

HenryBG said :

farq said :

Truthiness said :

Really we should be reopening the CP investigations into politicians and police, you know those investigations that get shut down every time they get too close to the real criminals. There are children being trafficked for sex in Canberra, and there have been for decades, I have had friends who escaped from that life, but it is ignored because the clientele is so exclusive.

Truthiness slips a conspiracy theory of epic proportions in his post and no one called him on it?

This site used to pound crazycheaster for her conspiracies about CIT management, but let one go about a child-sex ring operating above the law?

There *was* a ring of extremely well-connected paedophiles operating in Canberra between the 70’s and 90’s. They were well-acquainted with the bent pervert lawyer John Marsden (who can no longer dishonestly sue people, on account of his being dead, hooray), and John Marsden wasn’t the only member of the legal fraternity of their number. Not by a long shot. In fact, it was a bit of a lawyers’ own boy-molesting club.
The AFP looked into them for a while in the late 90’s and experienced all the same things Channel 7 experienced with Marsden at around the same time: the paedophiles had the best legal advice/training money could buy and they expended inordinate resources on interfering with all the potential witnesses. And the victims were all powerless and scared, damaged and easily discredited.

There have also been large rings of extremely well -cnnected and powerful child-sex traffickers busted across Europe.

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