Need tip for Cyde Mountain

jacko121 2 December 2014 44

So in January I will be driving to Batemans Bay for the first time from Canberra. I am on my red P’s that I have only had for 2 days. I just wanna get some tips and tricks from anyone who has driven up and down the clyde before. Thanks in advance.


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Mess Mess 12:29 pm 03 Dec 14

I always thought Government Bend was named because it is the tightest bend on the Clyde.

Best tip for the Clyde: Drive at the speed you want to drive at (within the limits of course). There are too many a#@eholes who think the Clyde is the South Coast version of Mount Panorama and tailgate and are generally aggressive towards other drivers.

dungfungus dungfungus 4:23 pm 03 Dec 14

La_Tour_Maubourg said :

Slightly off topic: Where did the name “Government Bend” come from? Was it always named that? Why that particular bend? Do other corners/bends have names? (Exception of Pooh Bear Corner, which was interestingly once named Gypsy Corner after the first fatality on that corner.)

Anybody noticed the abandoned bend by the lowest safety ramp?

The Prime Minister of the day said: “there will be no bend in the road under a government I lead”

Masquara Masquara 5:49 pm 03 Dec 14

Proboscus said :

La_Tour_Maubourg said :

Slightly off topic: Where did the name “Government Bend” come from? Was it always named that? Why that particular bend? Do other corners/bends have names? (Exception of Pooh Bear Corner, which was interestingly once named Gypsy Corner after the first fatality on that corner.)

Anybody noticed the abandoned bend by the lowest safety ramp?

That corner is called Government Bend because the road originally was going to head straight. Surveyors had determined that the ground was more sturdy and safer to build a road on and to avoid the unstable ground near the top of the Clyde (which has had major slippages in the past 30 years).

Unfortunately the government at the time decided that the cost of keeping the road straight at that point was more costly than putting in a bend and building the road in its current location.

Do you have a reference for that? I was told by Braidwood local that there was a toll in the early days and the tollgate was located at what came to be called Government Bend. Hopefully a historian can clear this up for us!

dkNigs dkNigs 7:20 pm 03 Dec 14

La_Tour_Maubourg said :

Anybody noticed the abandoned bend by the lowest safety ramp?

That’s the old Clyde road that was cut through when they upgraded it.

John Moulis John Moulis 7:37 pm 03 Dec 14

dungfungus said :

La_Tour_Maubourg said :

Slightly off topic: Where did the name “Government Bend” come from? Was it always named that? Why that particular bend? Do other corners/bends have names? (Exception of Pooh Bear Corner, which was interestingly once named Gypsy Corner after the first fatality on that corner.)

Anybody noticed the abandoned bend by the lowest safety ramp?

The Prime Minister of the day said: “there will be no bend in the road under a government I lead”

I remember in the late 1980s when I drove past the Government Bend sign someone had put a sign on a tree further on saying Anarchy Angle.

Whitepointer Whitepointer 10:28 pm 03 Dec 14

Catch a bus.

Algernon Algernon 11:57 am 04 Dec 14

A trip to the coast on a sunny winters day can be a soul-enriching experience.

A trip to the coast on a hot summers day in the holiday season can be an entirely different matter.

A trip to the coast is not just the Clyde. The NRMA rates the Kings Highway as the sixth worst road in NSW and the worst in the Capital region. Average annual daily traffic volumes, according to a 2013 Transport NSW report, are 5000 between Cbr and Bungendore and 4,500 between Bungendore and the coast.

This figure doubles during summer holidays and weekends. With hot weather, poor road surfaces and shoulders, caravans and heavy vehicles in the mix, and a lack of safe overtaking opportunities, travelling the highway can be very slow with the Clyde part reduced to a crawl.

This can lead to frustration. Frustration can lead to impulsive acts. Impulsive acts, particularly on roads like the Kings Highway under those conditions, can lead to adverse outcomes for you and, worse, your passengers and fellow road users.

So, ditto the previous responses (particularly being patient and situationally aware at all times, including driving well ahead) while staying focused on your goal of getting home safely from a weekend of sun, surf, sand and fish ‘n chips, or whatever.

Enjoy the experience.

jett18 jett18 12:51 pm 04 Dec 14

Just a quick tip on how to deal with trucks on the Clyde as this one freaked me out when I first started driving down myself.

Trucks can be a little bit intimidating, particularly if you are behind them. Give them room, give them space and remember that the sheer momentum of the truck will not allow them stop quickly, so if you have one behind you, be aware that if you break suddenly they will take longer to slow down.

My advise would be to be patient with trucks, don’t try and over take them until you are sure that the road is straight and that you will have enough time to pass them before the overtaking lane finishes or the next corner comes up.

Be cool, be calm and stay aware of your surrounds.

Russ Russ 1:15 pm 04 Dec 14

Surprised nobody’s mentioned this one:

Avoid the temptation to have a picnic with your family at the top of one of the emergency stop ramps.

dungfungus dungfungus 3:53 pm 04 Dec 14

Russ said :

Surprised nobody’s mentioned this one:

Avoid the temptation to have a picnic with your family at the top of one of the emergency stop ramps.

Is it any less dangerous to have a picnic at the bottom of a ramp?

dvaey dvaey 4:43 pm 04 Dec 14

A few tips..
Watch out for the 50 (and newish 80) zones at Bungendore and Braidwood. Police and speed cameras often setup at each end of the zones. Infact, for that matter, expect police anywhere on your drive. As a former Canberra resident who has moved to the Bay, I can guarantee you will see more police on your holiday here than you have probably seen on the roads in the last 12 months in the ACT. Expect to get pulled over, especially if you are driving with ACT numberplates and a P plate. Also, remember in NSW, the NSW licence rules apply, even if you are on an ACT licence. This includes such things as a 90km/hr limit and passenger limits.

Check out http://www.rms.nsw.gov.au/roads/licence/driver/p1.html#RulesforP1drivers

Also as a side note, ensure you fill up your tank before you arrive. Fuel in the Bay is the most expensive in the state. Most fuel stations in town are 10-15c more expensive than surrounding areas. If you really need to refuel before you drive back up the Clyde, travel upto Cullendulla (a couple of km north of the bridge) and you’ll probably save $5+ on your tank.

Also, for your general coastal experience, come prepared or stock up early. Many shops in the area close early, with IGA and woolies closing at 8pm. After 8pm pretty much your only options for take away food are McDonalds or Dominos.

Masquara Masquara 6:52 pm 04 Dec 14

Russ said :

Surprised nobody’s mentioned this one:

Avoid the temptation to have a picnic with your family at the top of one of the emergency stop ramps.

Yep – I was told that story as a kid. Weren’t they at the bottom of the ramp though? That poor truckie and his family.

switch switch 10:03 pm 04 Dec 14

dvaey said :

Expect to get pulled over, especially if you are driving with ACT numberplates and a P plate. Also, remember in NSW, the NSW licence rules apply, even if you are on an ACT licence. This includes such things as a 90km/hr limit and passenger limits.

Check out http://www.rms.nsw.gov.au/roads/licence/driver/p1.html#RulesforP1drivers

NSW rules only apply to NSW licensed P platers. ACT P platers can do the posted speed, even 110kph on the motorways in NSW etc. They only have to worry about conditions placed on their ACT licence, even when driving interstate. This obviously leads to all sorts of confusion, and sometimes interesting conversations with overly officious police.

Russ Russ 9:37 am 05 Dec 14

Masquara said :

Russ said :

Surprised nobody’s mentioned this one:

Avoid the temptation to have a picnic with your family at the top of one of the emergency stop ramps.

Yep – I was told that story as a kid. Weren’t they at the bottom of the ramp though? That poor truckie and his family.

As I understand it, it was just as the truck driver reached the top of the ramp, thinking he was home free, that he saw the family having a picnic. However I’ve also heard of the picnic occurring half way up the ramp, but never at the bottom.

rosscoact rosscoact 10:28 am 05 Dec 14

switch said :

dvaey said :

Expect to get pulled over, especially if you are driving with ACT numberplates and a P plate. Also, remember in NSW, the NSW licence rules apply, even if you are on an ACT licence. This includes such things as a 90km/hr limit and passenger limits.

Check out http://www.rms.nsw.gov.au/roads/licence/driver/p1.html#RulesforP1drivers

NSW rules only apply to NSW licensed P platers. ACT P platers can do the posted speed, even 110kph on the motorways in NSW etc. They only have to worry about conditions placed on their ACT licence, even when driving interstate. This obviously leads to all sorts of confusion, and sometimes interesting conversations with overly officious police.

My understanding is that you have to comply with both the rules of your license and the rules of the State in which you are driving. A P plater would still be fined for exceeding the speed limit in the example you cited.

switch switch 11:15 am 05 Dec 14

rosscoact said :

My understanding is that you have to comply with both the rules of your license and the rules of the State in which you are driving. A P plater would still be fined for exceeding the speed limit in the example you cited.

Not according to ACT Government Roadready. See the answer to the last question on http://www.roadready.act.gov.au/c/roadready?a=da&did=1002908&category=3

Raging Tempest Raging Tempest 11:24 am 05 Dec 14

If you have some time practice country style driving by heading to Bungendore or Braidwood and back a few times, or the road between the Cotter and Tidbinbilla is good too. It will help get you used to windy, skinny roads. For some mountain practice, head up and down Black Mountain and the Red Hill lookout especially at night when the buses straddle lanes as they come down. Again, tight, skinny roads, lots of twists and turn (if only short in comparison to the Clyde) where you can practice using your gears to slow yourself. And get yourself on the parkway at peak hour to simulate being held up by lots of angry people with lots of traffic around.

rosscoact rosscoact 11:56 am 05 Dec 14

switch said :

rosscoact said :

My understanding is that you have to comply with both the rules of your license and the rules of the State in which you are driving. A P plater would still be fined for exceeding the speed limit in the example you cited.

Not according to ACT Government Roadready. See the answer to the last question on http://www.roadready.act.gov.au/c/roadready?a=da&did=1002908&category=3

That’s the opposite to what SA, Qld and NSW sites say, so perhaps it might be useful to print that page and show it to the policeman when he pulls you over

switch switch 1:10 pm 05 Dec 14

rosscoact said :

That’s the opposite to what SA, Qld and NSW sites say, so perhaps it might be useful to print that page and show it to the policeman when he pulls you over

Yeah, I said it led to unnecessary confusion. I think there is a form letter buried somewhere online that ACT P-platers are advised to print out and carry with them, but I can’t find it now. It really shows that Australia is still a bunch of colonies who prefer to go their own way than act in concert. Why we still have different road rules and Road Departments for each state is a mystery to me.

jgsma jgsma 5:24 pm 05 Dec 14

Raging Tempest has a great idea – try out Red Hill and Black Mountain a few times. Also, as many others have said, just do it at the speed you feel comfortable driving, even if they tailgate or flash lights at you. Try not to go on Boxing Day!

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