Needles in the prison up for public comment

johnboy 28 July 2011 137

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Chief Minister Katy Gallagher has announced the release of Michael Moore’s report: Balancing Access
and Safety: Meeting the challenge of blood borne viruses in prison
.

The report recommends:

    1. The ACT Corrections Management Act 2007 be amended to require the establishment of an NSP at the AMC.

    2. A clear set of rules, procedures and protocols be established through an appropriate process guided by the ACT Corrections Management Act.

    3. Adopt a contingency process for the implementation of appropriate model/s for a needle and syringe program at the AMC.

    4. Recruitment of a dedicated Aboriginal Health Worker position in an NSP and related service provision would be worthy of consideration.

    5. The installation of secure syringe disposal bins would further reduce the potential for accidental needle-stick injury and be worthy of consideration even without the implementation of an NSP.

    6. Future developments in retractable syringe technology will need to be considered as part of the ongoing development of an NSP in custodial settings.

    7. Legislative amendments be considered to protect all staff from potential civil and criminal liability.

“The Government engaged Michael Moore to investigate and report on models for the implementation of an NSP at the Alexander Maconochie Centre (AMC) and the project included an assessment of the barriers to implementation with a broad range of consultations held with key stakeholders,” Ms Gallagher said.

The report has made seven (7) recommendations and the Government will now consider the recommendations, and seek the views of the community about the report, prior to finalising our response to report.

“The Government will welcome feedback from stakeholders to assist us with our final consideration of this very important issue. It’s important for anyone interested to provide their feedback on the report to the government over the next six week period.”

The consultation closes on 8 September and submissions can be made to AODpolicy@act.gov.au .

UPDATE: The Greens have announced their approval.

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PBO PBO 10:35 am 28 Jul 11

It is meant to be a Prison, P R I S O N! Why is this even happening?

If Sherrif Joe Arpaio was here then we would have a budget excess as he would not stand for such crap. This is a prison where people are punished for crimes, not a place to score and hang out for the day.

Get rid of the needles and make them work in a chain gang, lead by example.

Its no wonder we are viewed as a joke to the other states.

Prison is for punishment.

Pull your head in Katy Gallagher, otherwise you are just as bad as Stanhope.

The Frots The Frots 10:39 am 28 Jul 11

ZERO Tolerance. Easy!

The Frots The Frots 10:44 am 28 Jul 11

PBO said :

It is meant to be a Prison, P R I S O N! Why is this even happening?

If Sherrif Joe Arpaio was here then we would have a budget excess as he would not stand for such crap. This is a prison where people are punished for crimes, not a place to score and hang out for the day.

Get rid of the needles and make them work in a chain gang, lead by example.

Its no wonder we are viewed as a joke to the other states.

Prison is for punishment.

Pull your head in Katy Gallagher, otherwise you are just as bad as Stanhope.

+1 for that.

Watson Watson 10:51 am 28 Jul 11

PBO said :

Prison is for punishment.

So the question is, should that punishment include a vastly increased risk of contracting HIV or Hepatitis?

Prison staff try to cover up the fact that needles do get into the prison, but it is commonly known that they do.

Instead of trying to stop the apparently instoppable, why not link access to syringe exchange to participation in drug rehabilitation programs? And addict, is an addict, is an addict. They will get their hit somehow and trying to let them go cold turkey (also as part of their punishment, no doubt) is just never going to work.

johnboy johnboy 10:53 am 28 Jul 11

OK guys, you’re having a good old huff and puff, but until people wake up in the morning saying “why would I want to be a lazy public servant hitting on cute grads between planning morning tea when I can be a prison guard!” we’re going to have drugs in the prison.

Now do you want everyone going into the prison to be coming out a nest of infectious diseases or not?

colourful sydney racing identity colourful sydney racing identity 10:54 am 28 Jul 11

Anyone who thinks that the actions of Sherrif Joe Arpaio are something to model a justice system on are either ignorant, ill informed or idiotic.

colourful sydney racing identity colourful sydney racing identity 11:00 am 28 Jul 11

Watson said :

PBO said :

Prison is for punishment.

So the question is, should that punishment include a vastly increased risk of contracting HIV or Hepatitis?

Prison staff try to cover up the fact that needles do get into the prison, but it is commonly known that they do.

Instead of trying to stop the apparently instoppable, why not link access to syringe exchange to participation in drug rehabilitation programs? And addict, is an addict, is an addict. They will get their hit somehow and trying to let them go cold turkey (also as part of their punishment, no doubt) is just never going to work.

+ 1

Innovation Innovation 11:06 am 28 Jul 11

OK I’m going to show my ignorance, and I haven’t read the report to see if it answers my questions, but why doesn’t the prison conduct regular and random (or even daily) drug tests? Anyone caught with drugs in their system would be immediately isolated, treated, and subject to daily drug testing for a lengthy period thereafter. If we drug test drivers and athletes what makes prisoners so unique?

If this is already done, then I’m out of ideas as to how to stop needles and drugs getting into the prison system and, like many, I’m torn between the safety (needs) of the prison officers and the safety (needs) of all prisoners.

Proboscus Proboscus 11:09 am 28 Jul 11

I found this under Operating Philosphy ACTCS – http://www.cs.act.gov.au/page/view/867

The second para states:

“Whilst they are in prison, offenders are encouraged to make use of their sentence to improve their prospects of living law abiding and useful lives on release contributing further to community safety.”

Can Katy, or one of her mob of f***tards, tell us how an NSP contributes to improving a prisoners prospects of living a law abiding and useful life?

PBO PBO 11:22 am 28 Jul 11

colourful sydney racing identity said :

Anyone who thinks that the actions of Sherrif Joe Arpaio are something to model a justice system on are either ignorant, ill informed or idiotic.

Why, because he has cut down on costs and cut through the BS that is endemic in our prison systems? I agree that some of his methods are a bit harsh, but they work!

Watson Watson 11:22 am 28 Jul 11

Proboscus said :

Can Katy, or one of her mob of f***tards, tell us how an NSP contributes to improving a prisoners prospects of living a law abiding and useful life?

By replying I’m feeling like I’m agreeing to being a f***tard, but I will rise above your dizzying heights of rationality and eloquence.

How does NOT putting policies in place to prevent an increased risk of attracting HIV or Hepatatis increase their chances of making it in the outside world?

colourful sydney racing identity colourful sydney racing identity 11:23 am 28 Jul 11

Proboscus said :

I found this under Operating Philosphy ACTCS – http://www.cs.act.gov.au/page/view/867

The second para states:

“Whilst they are in prison, offenders are encouraged to make use of their sentence to improve their prospects of living law abiding and useful lives on release contributing further to community safety.”

Can Katy, or one of her mob of fucktards, tell us how an NSP contributes to improving a prisoners prospects of living a law abiding and useful life?

By them not getting Hep or HIV?

Jim Jones Jim Jones 11:23 am 28 Jul 11

colourful sydney racing identity said :

Anyone who thinks that the actions of Sherrif Joe Arpaio are something to model a justice system on are either ignorant, ill informed or idiotic.

ignorant, ill-informed AND idiotic.

Proboscus Proboscus 11:30 am 28 Jul 11

Innovation said :

OK I’m going to show my ignorance, and I haven’t read the report to see if it answers my questions, but why doesn’t the prison conduct regular and random (or even daily) drug tests? Anyone caught with drugs in their system would be immediately isolated, treated, and subject to daily drug testing for a lengthy period thereafter. If we drug test drivers and athletes what makes prisoners so unique?

If this is already done, then I’m out of ideas as to how to stop needles and drugs getting into the prison system and, like many, I’m torn between the safety (needs) of the prison officers and the safety (needs) of all prisoners.

I may be in the minority here but surely you’d put the safety of the guards first? Prisoners know the risks involved with intravenous drug use and are still happy taking them – even within the confines of the Hilton.

There are also the issues of who’s responsible when one of Canberra’s finest overdoses? Will Katy put her hand up and say “Oops, my bad”.

Or when a guard gets stabbed with a syringe or suffers a needlestick injury – who will say “No worries champ – it’s my fault”?

The people in the Canbera jail are not there for being wonderful contributers to our community – they’re scum who should do their time, do any rehabilitation or programs that their supposed to do and then be reintegrated into the community ONLY when they are fit to do so.

colourful sydney racing identity colourful sydney racing identity 11:33 am 28 Jul 11

PBO said :

colourful sydney racing identity said :

Anyone who thinks that the actions of Sherrif Joe Arpaio are something to model a justice system on are either ignorant, ill informed or idiotic.

Why, because he has cut down on costs and cut through the BS that is endemic in our prison systems? I agree that some of his methods are a bit harsh, but they work!

Bit harsh is the understatement of the year.

You do know that he applies his methods to people on remand? That is, people who have not been convicted of a crime and are therefore given the presumption of innocence.

You do also know that an Arizona State University study that he commissioned himself, has shown that there has been no reduction in recidivism rates under his watch?

He is no hero, he is a publicity seeking sociopath.

Proboscus Proboscus 11:42 am 28 Jul 11

Watson said :

Proboscus said :

Can Katy, or one of her mob of f***tards, tell us how an NSP contributes to improving a prisoners prospects of living a law abiding and useful life?

By replying I’m feeling like I’m agreeing to being a f***tard, but I will rise above your dizzying heights of rationality and eloquence.

How does NOT putting policies in place to prevent an increased risk of attracting HIV or Hepatatis increase their chances of making it in the outside world?

Are you for real? A needle exchange program has existed for years in the community and hasn’t worked. If it did, none of the junkies in Canberra would be disease ridden and there would be the added bonus of no used syringes in our parks, playgrounds or on our ovals for our kids to step on or curiously pick up.

My information is that not a single prisoner has contracted Hepatitis, HIV or any other disease whilst in the Hilton – it’s contracted in the community and brought in. Keep the needles out of the prison and fix up the program in the community.

Ben_Dover Ben_Dover 11:49 am 28 Jul 11

Would taking away their needles be a violation of their human rights. Probably a law suit in the making.

The Frots The Frots 11:58 am 28 Jul 11

johnboy said :

OK guys, you’re having a good old huff and puff, but until people wake up in the morning saying “why would I want to be a lazy public servant hitting on cute grads between planning morning tea when I can be a prison guard!” we’re going to have drugs in the prison.

Now do you want everyone going into the prison to be coming out a nest of infectious diseases or not?

Disagree JB. It is prison – the end!

We have a lot of research and policy papers available on why drugs cannot be kept out of prison. Everyone seems to just roll over to the idea that it’s here, man up and deal with it. We, and I do mean all of us, should be asking why is it so difficult to stop. As we go through the reasons why it is, deal with those issues one by one until we get a zero drug policy.

If we don’t approach the drug issue in prisons as a zero tolerance policy, then we have simply given up. We have decided it’s simply too hard and we’ll sit this one out. What’s next after that that we simply roll over for?

It is not impossible, but damn its hard. But we need to persist with it.

johnboy johnboy 12:19 pm 28 Jul 11

And when you’ve finished shouting “prison! the end!” the drugs will still be there.

colourful sydney racing identity colourful sydney racing identity 12:23 pm 28 Jul 11

johnboy said :

And when you’ve finished shouting “prison! the end!” the drugs will still be there.

+1 As you say yourself ‘We have a lot of research and policy papers available on why drugs cannot be kept out of prison.’. This is what we call evidence. Evidence shows that your proposal cannot work, hence the need for an alternative.

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