1 April 2011

Never say motorsport gets nothing!

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Andrew Barr has announced grants for motorsports organisations:

Community motorsport organisations can now apply for grants of up to $12,500 under the
ACT Community Motorsports Development Program (CMDP).

Funds can be used for management initiatives including governance review and development, strategic planning and business and operational planning.

The CMDP aims to:

• assist community motorsport clubs increase their skills in business operations, strategy and planning;
• enhance the management and governance of community motorsport clubs;
• assist clubs to undertake a ‘health check’ of their operations to improve management and administration; and
• encourage a planned and innovative approach to the development of community motorsport clubs in the ACT.

Guidelines and application forms are on the TAMS website

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CoffinRX2 said :

Its been brought to my attention that these grants have been around for a while and clubs like the BMSC LCCC etc have utilised funding to run events in the past.

In relation to the Speed on Tweed style event, I personally think that the CAMS regs/licensing for anything above a Hillclimb makes it partially not as appealing. … I dont know but maybe some clubs can look at something under AASA or AMSAG, as CAMS seem to be making things harder for their licence holders than making things easier over the years

I had thought SDMA, BMSC and LCCC had availed themselves of something along those lines.

You can do something like Speed on an L2S. That’s generally all that is required. That’s all I have held in more recent times. The aforementioned nationals I directed were run under the auspicies of AASA. Yeah . . . more ‘friendly’ and accomodating and suited our purposes. But, in retrospect, there’s aspects of the CAMS oversight that I prefer. That’s mostly in the area of vehicle eligibility and the policing thereof. The nationals that I oversaw is still being conducted (by another club) under AASA and has been for the past two years. But, it has become something of a free for all in terms of the vehicle eligibility. In my mind, club-level sport ought to be about driving skill and development. ‘My old’ nationals — under the warm and fuzzy sanction of AASA — has become a vehicle development showcase, where results are determined by the thickness of your wallet.

triffid said :

cranky said :

Totally agreement with the forgoing.

A suggestion.

Given the Govco opposition to anything on 4 wheels which might make a noise, but allowing them to back off a bit for not very loud motorsport, may I propose an event.

Speed on Tweed appears to be over. Killed by local anti-rally folks. Many vintage, historic and well known vehicles of Australian motorsport competed on a closed street circuit. A bit like Macarthur Park of old.

Not too noisy, a huge spectacle, and create enormous interest.

A road in Tharwa perhaps. Dosn’t need to be a circuit.

For comment.

Since I have lived here (closing in on a decade now) I have pondered just why there isn’t an event at that slightly-above-club-level tier in the format of a Speed on Tweed. I mean, I do understand why, but those reasons seem so illogical and simply bloody minded.

A couple of years back, as the event director for a marque-club-based national championships, I ever so wanted to stage the event in the nation’s capital and in my (adopted) home town. But, it’s traditional composition (with a gravel motorkhana as its immutable anchoring point and add ons of either a hillclimb or supersprint) simply couldn’t be accommodated. So, we went to Gouburn instead and that community got the benefit of the 250-odd participants and hangers on for the four days we were there.

Other reasons have stopped me being a more regular competitor at Fairburn (SDMA) of late. But, as those issues clear, and I seek events more like Speed, I find myself increasingly scouring the supplementary regs of events that will neccessitate a lengthy tow interstate. Wheels on Wide Bay springs to mind . . . or certain sprint events at Lakeside.

The irritation in that is not so much the factors linked to the tyranny of distance, but that the potential for similar events here, in Canberra, is hugely underestimated (especially in the purple-blouse-ruled parts of CMD).

Oh, and cranky . . . the nimbys in Murwillimbah didn’t kill Speed. Speed was going to roll up anyway for a host of other reasons. It enjoyed a stay of execution courtesy of the WRC coming to town (and the requistite need for a ‘mickey mouse’ super special in a population centre). But, the nimbys did p*ss off the Oz-based WRC organisers, who quickly packed the event off to Coffs, where it will be run in September this year. Now, Coffs will get the economic benefit of an event that Canberra could have had for a song ($33 million for 5 years if I recall) when Perth pulled out, had it not decided to ask CAMS to underwrite it, in full, as a precondition to accepting to host the event.

Its been brought to my attention that these grants have been around for a while and clubs like the BMSC LCCC etc have utilised funding to run events in the past.

In relation to the Speed on Tweed style event, I personally think that the CAMS regs/licensing for anything above a Hillclimb makes it partially not as appealing. … I dont know but maybe some clubs can look at something under AASA or AMSAG, as CAMS seem to be making things harder for their licence holders than making things easier over the years

cranky said :

Totally agreement with the forgoing.

A suggestion.

Given the Govco opposition to anything on 4 wheels which might make a noise, but allowing them to back off a bit for not very loud motorsport, may I propose an event.

Speed on Tweed appears to be over. Killed by local anti-rally folks. Many vintage, historic and well known vehicles of Australian motorsport competed on a closed street circuit. A bit like Macarthur Park of old.

Not too noisy, a huge spectacle, and create enormous interest.

A road in Tharwa perhaps. Dosn’t need to be a circuit.

For comment.

Since I have lived here (closing in on a decade now) I have pondered just why there isn’t an event at that slightly-above-club-level tier in the format of a Speed on Tweed. I mean, I do understand why, but those reasons seem so illogical and simply bloody minded.

A couple of years back, as the event director for a marque-club-based national championships, I ever so wanted to stage the event in the nation’s capital and in my (adopted) home town. But, it’s traditional composition (with a gravel motorkhana as its immutable anchoring point and add ons of either a hillclimb or supersprint) simply couldn’t be accommodated. So, we went to Gouburn instead and that community got the benefit of the 250-odd participants and hangers on for the four days we were there.

Other reasons have stopped me being a more regular competitor at Fairburn (SDMA) of late. But, as those issues clear, and I seek events more like Speed, I find myself increasingly scouring the supplementary regs of events that will neccessitate a lengthy tow interstate. Wheels on Wide Bay springs to mind . . . or certain sprint events at Lakeside. The irritation in that is not so much the factors linked to the tyranny of distance, but that the potential for similar events here, in Canberra, is hugely underestimated (especially in the purple-blouse-ruled parts of CMD).

Oh, and cranky . . . the nimbys in Murwillimbah didn’t kill Speed. Speed was going to roll up anyway for a host of other reasons. It enjoyed a stay of execution courtesy of the WRC coming to town (and the requistite need for a ‘mickey mouse’ super special in a population centre). But, the nimbys did p*ss off the Oz-based WRC organisers, who quickly packed the event off to Coffs, where it will be run in September this year. Now, Coffs will get the economic benefit of an event that Canberra could have had for a song ($33 million for 5 years if I recall) when Perth pulled out, had it not decided to ask CAMS to underwrite it, in full, as a precondition to accepting to host the event.

I’ve got to say that I’m glad the Govtco is finally realising that motorsport groups are a good thing by offering this grant.

Whilst it may not the be ideal solution to anything or everything, i see it as a positive step forward.

What would be more ideal is more noise credits, or more access and use with less restrictions to pretty much the only motorsport “complex” (of which I use that term loosely) out at Fairbairn Park.

I would like to see some of these grants go towards clubs like the MG Car Club, Light Car Club of Canberra, Brindabella Motorsport Club & Southern Districts Motorsport Association who are the very few clubs that put on some motorsport in the region.

Likewise the grants going to club who would be willing to run a “speed on Tweed” styled event which I’m sure would be greatly supported by the motorsport community in this town. And from what I’m hearing Stanhope isnt against these kind of events, as he has been approached regarding some tarmac events in the future within the ACT

Growling Ferret said :

SDMA Hillclimb club has run under subsribed events for the last couple of years. The opportunity to compete is there if people want to. Its just easier and cheaper to fang around the local roads with no chance of being caught…

And lawless behaviour on the roads is caused by a lack of motorsport facilities? Bollocks.

The hoons aren’t interested in hillclimbs anyway, as hillclimbing requires skill, and preferably a manual car, neither of which hoons have.

gazket said :

$12500 what a joke. still waiting for a proper 1/4 mile drag track that was promised several times. Labour stink and is rotten to the core. They can join the Greens in a 6ft hole

Also +1.

georgesgenitals8:13 am 03 Apr 11

Growling Ferret said :

KaptnKaos said :

ACT Community Motorsports Clubs can have everything and anything they like to operate, except motorsports events, that would be too noisy. Appropriate that this is released on April Fools Day, motorsport in the ACT is the biggest joke ever.

SDMA Hillclimb club has run under subsribed events for the last couple of years. The opportunity to compete is there if people want to. Its just easier and cheaper to fang around the local roads with no chance of being caught…

And that’s the problem. The real ratnags on the road typically aren’t getting caught. We need police out on the roads.

$12500 what a joke. still waiting for a proper 1/4 mile drag track that was promised several times. Labour stink and is rotten to the core. They can join the Greens in a 6ft hole

i’ll believe it when the motorsport club that i am a member of recieves it………

Totally agreement with the forgoing.

A suggestion.

Given the Govco opposition to anything on 4 wheels which might make a noise, but allowing them to back off a bit for not very loud motorsport, may I propose an event.

Speed on Tweed appears to be over. Killed by local anti-rally folks. Many vintage, historic and well known vehicles of Australian motorsport competed on a closed street circuit. A bit like Macarthur Park of old.

Not too noisy, a huge spectacle, and create enormous interest.

A road in Tharwa perhaps. Dosn’t need to be a circuit.

For comment.

Growling Ferret9:49 pm 01 Apr 11

KaptnKaos said :

ACT Community Motorsports Clubs can have everything and anything they like to operate, except motorsports events, that would be too noisy. Appropriate that this is released on April Fools Day, motorsport in the ACT is the biggest joke ever.

SDMA Hillclimb club has run under subsribed events for the last couple of years. The opportunity to compete is there if people want to. Its just easier and cheaper to fang around the local roads with no chance of being caught…

I’m sure CAMS runs things in Australia well enough that no ACT motorsport club (are there any?) would need that sort of money. If they did, exactly what would a club get for its $12.5k?

Keijidosha said :

KaptnKaos said :

ACT Community Motorsports Clubs can have everything and anything they like to operate, except motorsports events, that would be too noisy. Appropriate that this is released on April Fools Day, motorsport in the ACT is the biggest joke ever.

+1 times eleventy billion.

+1

KaptnKaos said :

ACT Community Motorsports Clubs can have everything and anything they like to operate, except motorsports events, that would be too noisy. Appropriate that this is released on April Fools Day, motorsport in the ACT is the biggest joke ever.

+1 times eleventy billion.

KaptnKaos said :

ACT Community Motorsports Clubs can have everything and anything they like to operate, except motorsports events, that would be too noisy. Appropriate that this is released on April Fools Day, motorsport in the ACT is the biggest joke ever.

+1

KaptnKaos said :

ACT Community Motorsports Clubs can have everything and anything they like to operate, except motorsports events, that would be too noisy. Appropriate that this is released on April Fools Day, motorsport in the ACT is the biggest joke ever.

+1

KaptnKaos said :

ACT Community Motorsports Clubs can have everything and anything they like to operate, except motorsports events, that would be too noisy. Appropriate that this is released on April Fools Day, motorsport in the ACT is the biggest joke ever.

Easy, Kaptn, easy. Never look a gift horse etc etc. I don’t disagree with you by the way.

I look at one of the clubs with which I have an association. Let’s see . . . it’s constitution was drafted by the late Andrew Ollie. Its presidents have variously been folk such as senior ranking officers in the ADF (inculding, at one stage, an Air Commodore, or so I am led to believe) or ED-level type folk from peak industry associations. It has recently had an ex-Cabinet Secretary as a, er, secretary and a senior Treasury offical as its, er, treasurer . . . you know . . . reasonably typical club fair for the ACT, with most of the committee positions held by senior-ish federal bureaucrats and the like. Not that any of them know anything about things like strategic planning, or governance, or community development, ey?

Now . . . had the ACT Government seen fit to allocate some of that money to assisting motor sports clubs in the ACT with the adoption of CAMS’ Ignition initiative, then we might be getting somewhere. That’s providing, of course, that we could run that initiative here in the ACT without making noise (ey, Kaptn?) or that it be conducted exclusively at the ACT’s dedicated Motorsport / Driver Training complex (Oh, hang on . . . that’s right . . . we don’t got one, do we. Or not one that clubs can afford to use in any event).

If it is a joke, Kaptn, I’m not laughin’, not laughin’ at all.

ACT Community Motorsports Clubs can have everything and anything they like to operate, except motorsports events, that would be too noisy. Appropriate that this is released on April Fools Day, motorsport in the ACT is the biggest joke ever.

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