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New Business Levy to clean up Civic

atnas 26 April 2005 47

The Electronic version of Channel Ray (NineMSN), is reporting here that Pirate Quinlan is planning to introduce a new levy on businesses to help pay for increasing clean-up costs of Civic.

Apparently, there was a levy imposed on civic parking spaces, but the clever darlings have decided that did not work, so they have decided to gouge ACT businesses to fund the clean up.

One hopes that this levy is only applied to businesses in the Civic area, or things may get ugly. Another option would be to stop outsourcing essential government functions (such as gargabe collection, and say THINKING) and get back to the good old days of actually thinking through policies before launching on a rape a pillage mission of ACT businesses.

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47 Responses to New Business Levy to clean up Civic
johnboy 8:20 pm 27 Apr 05

Well who hasn’t hired a cowboy tradesman or miscalculated?

Not saying she was perfect or even that resignation wasn’t required.

Ralph 8:18 pm 27 Apr 05

Remember that hospital implosion? Oh, and I think there was DUI as well (twice from memory).

johnboy 8:14 pm 27 Apr 05

So now we pay taxes and get bread and circuses in return?

Personally i preferred the old model when a lot of funky small businesses provided entertainments we chose to pay for.

vg 4:54 pm 27 Apr 05

brought in industrial manslaughter as a crime/ what a crowning achievement, now that virtually every oz jurisdiction other than us has either refused it or gotten rid of it, where it will go when the current ACT Govt goes. There is ample scope under normal manslaughter legislation (and I’d an ex-solicitor type such as Stanhope to realise that).

What did he rebuild after the fires that insurance companies didnt pay for?

NYE fireworks only re-introduced after public pressure from canning it last year.

And publically stood by someone who has committed a criminal offence who wanted to resign.

He’s a real corker!

Thumper 3:46 pm 27 Apr 05

And to sign off I still think rubbish collection is core business for local government so the traders shouldn’t have to pay for it.

Its a bit like pay parking. A tax that you have when you can’t call it a tax.


Thumper 3:40 pm 27 Apr 05


You were the first to raise the issue of people having short memories, not me. I simply reinforced the comment by suggesting that people have even shorter memories.

What I am saying is that Stanhope stood up and made sure that he was seen as the man in charge, that he took the kudos, that he was ultimately responsible, that the buck stopped with him.

As it transpired, it didn’t, and now nine of his people are being protected by being shielded from the coroner. Of course, it must also be noted that the coroner is only there to find out what happened, not to find out who was responsible.

You will also note that I was not actually very complimentary about Carnell either, although I do think she did more for Canberra at a time when it was needed, than the current government.

2:26 pm 27 Apr 05

bonfire, can you give some examples of how Canberra was vibrant and interesting (in a good way) under Carnell (V8 race not withstanding).

Along with the bill of rights, which I agree is a stupid wank and things like the Canberra plan (in which we obviously disagree on in that think it’s a good thing) the ALP government has:
Legalised abortion
Brought in industrial manslaughter as a crime
Raised the rate of pay for public servants to a competitive level
Started construction on the GDE
Rebuilt from the bushfires
Introduced like the Celebrate Canberra concert, the around town events and the NYE fireworks
Increased the use of ACTION buses

And that’s just off the top of my head, there is a bigger (and more full of political BS) list here:

Also guys Section 83 was sold by Carnell, so you can blame her for the parking stuff ups in Civic.

2:15 pm 27 Apr 05

Thumper, again you miss the point. The context is that that statement by Stanhope was actually saying “now is not the time for finger pointing” not “it’s all my fault”, which is what your quote made it look like. Now I don’t like the way the coroner has been treated much, but it is an independent inquiry in which the government feels like it’s being unfairly treated. You may disagree, but that’s why we have a legal system in place to work it out (which has actually stated that the corner has no power to conduct the inquiry in the first place, which the government isn’t happy with either as it wants an inquiry just not under the current coroner). Your issues with the coronial enquiry have nothing to do with your initial Stanhope quote.

Chris 2:09 pm 27 Apr 05

Bonfire, you’re right (and apologies for hitting ‘Say It’ twice BTW)I ‘d prefer the ACT to be what it was before self-government -and particularly before Stanhope- but if it has to be a Labor government, then I’d prefer it to be headed by someone like John Button or Barry Cohen, who both at least liked the arts and understood that you don’t buckle to the artzmafia.

bonfire 1:48 pm 27 Apr 05

i think its amazing that any pro carnell statement is immediately seized upon by the softheaded labor good liberal bad cadres.

i miss teh old girl. canberra was vibrant and interesting. johnny had slashed and housing and job security was spiralling. through careful management carnell and crew did a very good job, despite softheaded independents.

ok she played hard and fast with some of teh details and came a cropper eventually, but i think that the booming cosmopolitan city of today is starkly different to the staid canberra which preceded carnell.

so what has stanhope and co achieved ?

lots of plans and consultations. ideological idiocy aka human rights act. reversed few of teh things it whinged about when in opposition. still sells off public assets etc.

when people (ie you the voter) lose the labor/liberal blinkers which help you ignore achievements by a dedicated leader with drive and the ability to inspire people, maybe you will be a bit more positive.

Thumper 1:44 pm 27 Apr 05


And the time came to pass for someone to be found responsibile and our brave CM immediately started legal action to stop an inquiry to find out what went wrong….

What context would that be?


LurkerGal 1:08 pm 27 Apr 05

This is funny and entertaining.

I like Stanhope. I also liked Kate Carnell. Is that ok?

LG Enjoying everyone’s comments immensely…

12:35 pm 27 Apr 05

That should be: it went something along the lines of it not being the time to blame and if people needed to hold anyone responsible then hold him responsible

12:34 pm 27 Apr 05

Except of course that statement actually had a context, which you seem to be ignoring. From memory (because I can’t find any info on that press conference online) it went something along the lines of it not being to blame and if people needed to hold anyone responsible then hold him responsible. I don’t think people forgotten that statement, nor do they see it in a bad light.

Chris 12:23 pm 27 Apr 05

The quotee in Crikey had it right – “StanDOPE” – and add me to the list of people who like Kate.

Chris 12:23 pm 27 Apr 05

The quotee in Crikey had it right – “StanDOPE” – and add me to the list of people who like Kate.

Thumper 12:03 pm 27 Apr 05


I quite liked Kate as well, although she did run off the rails a tad….


Ralph 12:02 pm 27 Apr 05

I think a hike in Civic parking fees is more equitable. This ensures that people who actually use Civic contribute to the cost of its beautification. It also spreads the cost over a larger base.

LurkerGal 11:53 am 27 Apr 05

Thumper I could so high five you right now!

Thumper 11:45 am 27 Apr 05


Yep, people do have short memories.

‘I am responsible’. Does that ring a bell after two thirds of the ACT burnt to a cinder?

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