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New political party on deck for the ACT

By S4anta 29 April 2008 98

The ABC has the ever so slightly comfroting news that another group has managed to be registered as a political party within the ACT to do battle with old beasts for the next ACT election. The Community Alliance Party (CAP) (ABC Link) is mainly a group set up to fight for the rights of those who fell victims of the 2003 Bushfires in our beloved Canberra. The CAP has been founded by a Mr Rich Hingee, who it appears has been quite busy of late, with mentions here (Access Card), and numerous appearances in the comments and letters of the Australian and the ‘Crimes.

The CAP itself is said to be bipartisan, however wont be following Comrade Stanhope. Well, at least they have gotten one thing right.

My only real concern is that it is on the surface a single issue party, and thats even before you get to the nitty gritty of their ‘issue’ and that is how one actually goes about actually classifying a victim of the 2003 fires, when so many ACT folk saw and experienced something that only be described as traumatic at best.

Good Luck all, hope it goes well.

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SneakyMan 9:51 pm 13 May 08

Ingeegoodbee.

Im only new on this forum, but I have to ask a question, did you get dropped on your head as a child, or are you still under 18. Buddy, you would have to be the thickest idiot I have had the displeasure of reading. I have formed an opinion that you couldnt / wouldnt be happy with whatever goverment is in power.

Also, one of your comment *people want a government to govern, not ask for comunity consiltation* shows the main failure of your personality. You are quite happy to condem and whinge about people, but lack the knowledge, integrety and capabilities to jump in the ring and have a go. I think you just like to be led. I bet you like the net as a way to comunicate because you dont have to face people.

So, here is my suggestion to you. Unless you are prepared to get up and have a fight (for the A.C.T.) you should just crawl back under whatever rock you slithered from and curl up there, and wait to be told what you have to do next.

Rant over.

Lynne G 1:32 pm 06 May 08

So no one can give me nay ideas on how to get in touch with teh powers to be from CAP??? Wow, so how on earth did they get the required 100 members to form a political party?

p1 5:02 pm 05 May 08

Thumper said :

nope, I’m not a slow, lovable bunny rabbit…

Must remember this next time taglines are called for :o)

Crikey 11:59 am 05 May 08

Political groups such as CAP come and go with the seasons.

I was at a meeting with this Hingee guy once and he’s a bit of a fruit-loop. And there are already plenty of fruit-loops in the Assembly – Brendan Smyth, Jacquie Burke, Steve Pratt, Karen MacDonald, John Hargreaves, Deb Foskey, Katy Gallagher.

el 10:42 pm 04 May 08

I think the Greens should hire her as their media person. So far she’s displayed all the key qualities required.

Agreed. Let’s see some more insults directed at the entire readership, Caroline!

CAP = Amateurish, devoid of policy wankers.

Thumper 6:43 pm 04 May 08

Oh, and yes, I am sooooo lovable……

😉

Thumper 6:42 pm 04 May 08

P1,

nope, I’m not a slow, lovable bunny rabbit.

Manic, short, thin, irritating, fun loving, annoying, well yep….

But not slow 😉

ant 10:18 am 04 May 08

I think the Greens should hire her as their media person. So far she’s displayed all the key qualities required.

circusmind 2:04 am 04 May 08

cambrus said :

to tom-tom quote 78, you said: ‘how can you claim that you are willing to work with both sides of govt. when slandering stanhope to such a level?’ Go back and read again what I said. I did not slander Stanhope personally. I commented on the Stanhope Government which leaves a lot to be desired. There is a degree of difference. He is probably doing the best with what he has, like the rest of us. Your policy concerns will be forwarded to the CAP policy committee. Thank you for your interest, Caroline Ambrus

lol.

Headbonius 6:48 pm 03 May 08

Ingeegoodbee, thank god for your comments. Mike Crowther, you are actually a tool (ingee, I think you got that line from me;))

The CAP?

FFS – you idiots.

astrojax 8:41 am 03 May 08

you don’t need to sign each of your posts, cambrus.

seems you have become the default spokesperson for CAP in this forum, long silence fro your mates. no word yet on any of these elusive policies then..?

cambrus 5:41 pm 02 May 08

to tom-tom quote 78, you said: ‘how can you claim that you are willing to work with both sides of govt. when slandering stanhope to such a level?’ Go back and read again what I said. I did not slander Stanhope personally. I commented on the Stanhope Government which leaves a lot to be desired. There is a degree of difference. He is probably doing the best with what he has, like the rest of us. Your policy concerns will be forwarded to the CAP policy committee. Thank you for your interest, Caroline Ambrus

p1 5:14 pm 02 May 08

Most contributors who have participated in this debate have done so are anonymously.

I guess this depends how you define anonymity. Personally I know none of the “named” people speaking for CAP, however I am familier with the postings of many of the other contributers to this thread from the last few years. So I actually feel, when following this discussion that the named people are much more anonymouse then say Thumper, who I always picture as a kind of slow, lovable bunny rabbit.

Roland GRNS 3:15 pm 02 May 08

Greens MLA Deb Foskey’s amendments to ACT electoral legislation, to be debated next week in the Assembly, include

* A return to the 6m rule for handing out How-to-Votes, as applies at federal elections
* making parties disclose their donations before the election rather than after it
* requiring property developers to disclose their political donations whenever they make a development application
* keeping “non-party” groups on the ballot paper, to ensure political parties don’t have too much advantage over independent candidates.

There are long odds on any of these sensible amendments getting up.

caf 2:43 pm 02 May 08

Your point about preference flows from Greens votes proves nothing beyond the fact that 80% of Greens voters at the last election preferred the ALP over the Liberals, which is unsurprising in the least. It doesn’t take a genius to see that Greens voters are more likely to be socially progressive than average, and further that the ALP has a stronger reputation for being socially progressive than the Liberals.

You could try and distribute a HTV card, but since it’s illegal to give them out in close proximity to a polling place (100m, in the ACT) you’re not going to have much success with that.

Roland GRNS 2:38 pm 02 May 08

aresbandit22

If you read Greens policies you would see that thee is no proposal to legalise all sorts of drugs, or indeed ANY currently illicit drugs.

I’d be interested in you view of Greens policies on health and hospitals, or on children and young people, for example, instead.

ACT Greens policies are being reviewed, but Australian Greens policies (with which ACT Greens policies need to be consistant) are available on the website – http://www.greens.org.au.

arsebandit22 2:09 pm 02 May 08

CharlieBell said :

Hey people, in this town you don’t just get one vote. Every electorate elects 5 (or 7) members. You get to number lots of boxes to help rank the candidates. Your number 2, 3, 4 votes are almost as important as your number 1. You could vote 1 CAP, 2 Labor, 3 Lib if you want. If you vote for what we already have you’ll just get the same people again. What we really need is good people in the Assembly, not some bunch of party drones who all do what they are told.

Hey CharlieBell, nice try, just goes to prove my point to Caf about preferences, maybe it should look like this, 1 CAP, 2 Lib, 3 The motorist party 4 Labor 4 Anyone but the Greens, Last The Greens Party (not happy with a party that wants to legalise all sorts of drugs and makes that as more important than our children, hospitals, policing and safety).

arsebandit22 2:01 pm 02 May 08

caf said :

arsebandit22: You clearly have no idea how Hare-Clark works. Parties can’t lodge group voting tickets, the order of candidates names is randomised within their group, and HTV card aren’t allowed to be distributed at polling stations. The practical upshot is that parties can’t distribute preferences (they can’t even directly influence which of their own candidates is elected preferentially).

Thanks Caf for your version of Hare Clarke, you may want to study the system a little closer before you open your mouth and show how much you don’t know, of course they can influence preferences just have a look at the preference flows from the Greens at the last 3 ACT elections 80% to labor, why do you think they have 9 seats, they didn’t win them on first preferences from themselves.

It doesn’t take much to put out a how to vote card saying vote for CAP as your first preference and then Green and then Labor, guess who eventually gets the vote. If you are going to have your say at least be factual.

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