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Nicholls Grow House busted

By johnboy 14 March 2011 24

A Nicholls couple will be summonsed to appear in the ACT Magistrates Court on drug-related charges after police executed a search warrant on their home yesterday (Sunday, March 13) to find sophisticated cannabis cultivation apparatus in the garage.

A search of the premises by officers from ACT Policing’s Criminal Investigations team revealed a hydroponics set-up in the garage comprising four “grow” tents with artificial lights, ventilation and irrigation, and cannabis plants in various stages of growth, from seedlings to mature plants.

Police seized the plants and equipment.

The 35-year-old man and his 37-year-old partner will be summonsed to appear in court on a date to be fixed.

[Courtesy ACT Policing]


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The Dark 12:32 am 17 Mar 11

In the words of Penn Gillette – “How can we claim to live in a free society when the government still has the right to tell us what we can and can’t put into our own f*cking bodies”.

Feel free to have a go via the whole ‘drain on resources argument’ or ‘you don’t wanna see what happens when they have a psychotic break’ or whatever else, but the arguments that theres a slight chance someone goes off there nut or that the anti-drug people feel the government should be selective about who should get to take advantage of our country’s medical facilities or whatever should pale in light of the fact that we are meant to live in a truly ‘Free’ society. Free for everyone.

Sure, maybe not open season for bongheads, there may be some limitations/restrictions that need to remain on it, but thats a far cry from the ‘its a crime, thus you are a criminal’ stance the law takes at the moment.

Tooks 3:31 pm 16 Mar 11

dvaey said :

Tooks said :

Its about time people started to open their eyes to the bullcrap that’s been spoonfed to them… We are so far behind on marijuana law reform its embarassing…

So far behind who? Who has the perfect cannabis laws?

I tend to disagree with this statement. The ACT is one of the few places where there is a little understanding of the drug. Some places like the USA have simply banned it, and banned any research or reform from ever being able to take place.

Tooks said :

Not a single person in recorded history, has ever died from overdosing on Marijuana, yet alcohol and prescription drugs are killing hundreds every year

That’s your criteria for legalising something? Really?

Well, thats my criteria for pointing out the hypocracy of some being illegal and some not. If youre charged with weapons offences, is the charge/punishment different depending on your weapon? If you have a knife, are you chaged the same as if you had a handgun or a grenade launcher? Presumably the ‘worse’ the weapon, the higher the charge and punishment. This is the hypocracy Im pointing out, that the drugs that cause the most problems are regulated, but those that cause relatively minimal problems are outlawed.

Tooks said :

I heard that it was four plants being grown hydroponically, they could not possibly be for personal use. Yep, real threat to society and our way of life they are. Glad these hardcore crims have been shut down.

Tooks said :

What your saying is drug dealing is fine, as long as they’re not making a killing.

I cant see anywhere that said these people were growing, other than the assumption in law that anyone growing more than x amount, is obviously dealing. Why isnt this the case with alcohol? Why isnt there a limit to being able to homebrew 24 bottles of beer, and anyone caught with more than 24 bottles, is obviously an alcohol dealer and should be treated as such… again, double standards?

This took me about 0.5 seconds to find:
A man aged 36 is believed to have become the first person in Britain to die directly from cannabis poisoning.

In millions of years of smoking the weed, one death has been directly linked? Who made this link, what is their political viewpoint and/or bias? For such a unique discovery, was it backed up by more research and/or their peers? Also, this guy didnt ‘overdose’ in the same way you overdose on heroin or alcohol poisoning… this guy had smoked for 11 years.. maybe he died from liver failure or some other cause? I guess we’ll never know, the political points have been scored.. the same way we’ll never know the name of the mexicans that white americans were so scared of, to bring in marijuana laws in the first place, which the rest of the world followed..

My point in posting the story about the death from cannabis was to shoot down mumoftheyear’s assertion that no one in the history of the world has died from it, which is rubbish.

I cant see anywhere that said these people were growing,

It is very naive to think someone using four grow tents to grow multiple plants are not dealers. If you are growing that much weed, it’s pretty safe to say it’s not personal use.

Avy 1:45 pm 16 Mar 11

OK, I’ll bite.

buzz819 said :

Some long term effects of cannabis;
• Cannabis users can become dependent on it, and cannabis dependence is much more common
than people used to think.
• They give up other activities in order to use cannabis.
• They continue to use cannabis even when it is causing them problems.
• Attention and memory may be affected, which means that schoolwork or jobs become difficult, or it may be harder to find employment.
• Teenagers who use cannabis regularly are much more likely to suffer from depression.
• People who use dope often say that they have low motivation.
• They find it hard to get on with the things in their life.
• This can lead to problems with school, friends, money, work, and life in general.
• Heavy cannabis users often find that they are only hanging out with other cannabis users.
• They may lose contact with old friends who don’t use cannabis.
• They may start to feel isolated and down.
• The cost of using cannabis all the time can restrict the other activities they could be doing.
• Being stoned a lot can affect how people communicate – for the worse.

Let me offer an alternative interpretation here, just to colour your thinking.

Some long term effects of alcohol consumption;
• Alcohol users can become dependent on it, and alcohol dependence is much more common than people used to think.
• They give up other activities in order to use alcohol.
• They continue to use alcohol even when it is causing them problems.
• Attention and memory may be affected, which means that schoolwork or jobs become difficult, or it may be harder to find employment.
• Teenagers who use alcohol regularly are much more likely to suffer from depression.
• People who use alcohol often say that they have low motivation.
• They find it hard to get on with the things in their life.
• This can lead to problems with school, friends, money, work, and life in general.
• Heavy drinkers often find that they are only hanging out with other drinkers.
• They may lose contact with old friends who don’t drink.
• They may start to feel isolated and down.
• The cost of using alcohol all the time can restrict the other activities they could be doing.
• Being drunk a lot can affect how people communicate – for the worse.

buzz819 said :

At the moment it is illegal, deal with it.

You know, at one time it was illegal for women to vote. It was legal to own slaves.

Would you have told those groups to just ‘deal with it’?

buzz819 10:18 am 16 Mar 11

I’ve just had a cruise around the web to see why people think it should be illegal, why it should be legal and the conspiracy theories as to why it became illegal (not using the term in a bad way).

I understand where people argue that cigarettes and alcohol are legal, have a look at the laws that are slowly coming in, I give smoking another 5 years before it is illegal. Alcohol – the laws are changing there as well, there won’t be a prohibition or anything, but it will be more expensive with more laws on how it can be consumed.

Some long term effects of cannabis;
• Cannabis users can become dependent on it, and cannabis dependence is much more common than people used to think.
• They give up other activities in order to use cannabis.
• They continue to use cannabis even when it is causing them problems.
• Attention and memory may be affected, which means that schoolwork or jobs become difficult, or it may be harder to find employment.
• Teenagers who use cannabis regularly are much more likely to suffer from depression.
• People who use dope often say that they have low motivation.
• They find it hard to get on with the things in their life.
• This can lead to problems with school, friends, money, work, and life in general.
• Heavy cannabis users often find that they are only hanging out with other cannabis users.
• They may lose contact with old friends who don’t use cannabis.
• They may start to feel isolated and down.
• The cost of using cannabis all the time can restrict the other activities they could be doing.
• Being stoned a lot can affect how people communicate – for the worse.

Then there is the whole it can; cause paranoia, psychosis and can bring on mental illness in those predisposed to mental problems.

Some of the above can be said about alcohol, smoking and eating chocolate.

You think about the effects of legalising it, there will be a lot more people walking around stoned, those people will not be able to function effectively in society, they will be sitting down doing nothing, tell me how productivity in the work place will go then.

You say it affects you the same way alcohol does, yes, yes it does, so you can’t drive while impaired, so you legalise it, there still isn’t an effective on the spot test for THC (only has a window of 2-4 hours), so there is more risk of people driving while impaired. You can’t drink and drive, you can’t be drunk and disorderly etc. How is that a good thing?

So, people can buy cigarettes…. Yeah… That old chestnut, while it has been shown that cigarettes are a direct health risk, for yourself and those around through second hand smoke, it won’t make you think a green goblin is coming out of the wall, it won’t cause you to sit on a couch with no thoughts for 4 or 5 hours, it won’t impair your judgement or mood, it will not trigger a psychosis, which, as I know personally from being stabbed by someone who has had a dope psychosis, is a more direct threat then second hand smoke.

Yes there are points for legalising it, then drug dealers won’t be able to sell as much, it may lower the crime rate a little, BUT, here is the BUT, how expensive is smoking these days? You think that if it was legalised the Government would make it so people could actually buy it? They would TAX the SHIT out of it. You would be paying $40-$50 for a cone. Would you be better off then? You can’t tell me that it doesn’t affect people, I know it does, you can’t tell me that legalising it would be better for society, because it won’t.

At the moment it is illegal, deal with it.

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