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No charges laid over Holt sexual assault investigation

By johnboy 8 November 2012 36

The investigation into the abduction and sexual assault of a 16-year-old girl in Holt on September 15, 2012 has been finalised, with no charges to be laid by ACT Policing.

Police have identified the person pictured in the facefit. This person has assisted police with enquiries.

ACT Policing would like to thank the community who provided nominations and information to Crime Stoppers in relation to this investigation.

We strongly encourage all victims of a sexual assault to contact police.

There are several agencies available to support victims of sexual assault including the Canberra Rape Crisis Centre.

[Courtesy ACT Policing]

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caf 12:21 am 11 Nov 12

chewy14 said :

caf said :

chewy14 said :

kakosi said :

Rape victims know that unless they are beaten badly it’s a waste of time going to the police as it won’t ever make it to a court case.

I’m not in any way saying that this is the situation in this case – just that this news doesn’t surprise me at all.

Yeah its horrible, they should just lock those scumbags away.

Who cares about pesky things like evidence and presumption of innocence? No one has ever lied to the police, so they should just take someone at their word.

This is a great example of the Straw Man fallacy.

As opposed to saying that you need to be beaten up to have a charge of rape proven which is the epitome of logical thinking. The original comment was ridiculous and deserved a ridiculous, sarcastic response.

Yes, as opposed to that comment, which was not such an example.

Your sarcasm was mocking an argument which the original did not make.

kakosi 11:40 pm 10 Nov 12

HenryBG said :

kakosi said :

so precious few non-consensual sex acts can be actually proven to have been non-consensual.

Yep

HenryBG 9:46 pm 10 Nov 12

kakosi said :

Calling rape “sex” is a little like calling murder “sleep therapy”.

Insane gibberish.

Rape is sex, Without consent. To prove rape, you have to prove there was no consent. How do you prove that? It’s not very bloody easy – few people enter into an agreement to have consensual sex in the presence of witnesses, so precious few non-consensual sex acts can be actually proven to have been non-consensual.
The approach of the feminist lobby to this problem has been to undermine some of the basic concepts of the way the law works, so rape accusers get anonymity, the standard of proof is well short of what it is for any other crime, etc…

esp 9:42 pm 10 Nov 12

HenryBG said :

Just look at what happened when a psycho lesbian who’d been fantasising about murdering men equipped herself with a knife and lured a guy into Telopea Park and brutally stabbed him to death – all she had to say was the magic word ‘Rape’ and the entire machinery of justice fell all over itself to help her get away with it.

Yes… just like the entire “machinery” (that is soooo not the right word to use) of “justice” has fallen over itself in every regard for every crime ever committed in the entire universe…… according to those such as yourself HenryBG……

Perhaps the cops are just saying: “That dude who’s picture we put out everywhere saying he was a rapitst…. well actually….. he’s not…..”

HenryBG 9:41 pm 10 Nov 12

HGp said :

Another reading could be that the person in the facefit wasn’t the attacker (i.e. the guy had an alibi or the victim’s description was inexact).

If that were the case, the investigation would be ongoing.

HGp 8:31 pm 10 Nov 12

Another reading could be that the person in the facefit wasn’t the attacker (i.e. the guy had an alibi or the victim’s description was inexact).

kakosi 7:15 pm 10 Nov 12

Crap, just realised I got sucked in by troll comments aimed at being ridiculous.

kakosi 7:02 pm 10 Nov 12

HenryBG said :

nyssa1976 said :

kakosi said :

Rape victims know that unless they are beaten badly it’s a waste of time going to the police as it won’t ever make it to a court case.

I’m not in any way saying that this is the situation in this case – just that this news doesn’t surprise me at all.

100% agreement here.

Having ‘experienced’ this first hand and being told ‘we can’t do anything else’ even with photographic evidence and phone records, really makes you wonder why you went to the police at all.

It all comes down to whether or not they can ‘get it past the magistrate’ and in Canberra the perpetrators have more rights than the victims.

The fact is that people have sex all the time.
Proving that any particular sex act was non-consensual is virtually impossible.

In pandering to the feminist lobby, its the rights of those *accused* of rape are the rights that have been severely eroded over the last 30 years.

Just look at what happened when a psycho lesbian who’d been fantasising about murdering men equipped herself with a knife and lured a guy into Telopea Park and brutally stabbed him to death – all she had to say was the magic word ‘Rape’ and the entire machinery of justice fell all over itself to help her get away with it.

What does this one murder case have to do with anything at all? People get murdered, women get raped a lot more often. Obviously the “machinery of justice” doesn’t pander to women or there would be many more rape cases going to trial instead of victims being told by police to get counselling because no one will believe them.

I’ve never once seen or heard of this so-called “feminist lobby”.

Seriously… read the second sentence in my original comment. I never said that this case was absolutely a rape, just that it could be and there wasn’t enough evidence like beating or torturing to get it through the courts.

Comments such as yours support my belief that rape is an accepted practice by far too many males in this society. Calling rape “sex” is a little like calling murder “sleep therapy”.

chewy14 6:35 pm 10 Nov 12

caf said :

chewy14 said :

kakosi said :

Rape victims know that unless they are beaten badly it’s a waste of time going to the police as it won’t ever make it to a court case.

I’m not in any way saying that this is the situation in this case – just that this news doesn’t surprise me at all.

Yeah its horrible, they should just lock those scumbags away.

Who cares about pesky things like evidence and presumption of innocence? No one has ever lied to the police, so they should just take someone at their word.

This is a great example of the Straw Man fallacy.

As opposed to saying that you need to be beaten up to have a charge of rape proven which is the epitome of logical thinking. The original comment was ridiculous and deserved a ridiculous, sarcastic response.

caf 2:23 pm 10 Nov 12

chewy14 said :

kakosi said :

Rape victims know that unless they are beaten badly it’s a waste of time going to the police as it won’t ever make it to a court case.

I’m not in any way saying that this is the situation in this case – just that this news doesn’t surprise me at all.

Yeah its horrible, they should just lock those scumbags away.

Who cares about pesky things like evidence and presumption of innocence? No one has ever lied to the police, so they should just take someone at their word.

This is a great example of the Straw Man fallacy.

HenryBG 2:09 pm 10 Nov 12

nyssa1976 said :

kakosi said :

Rape victims know that unless they are beaten badly it’s a waste of time going to the police as it won’t ever make it to a court case.

I’m not in any way saying that this is the situation in this case – just that this news doesn’t surprise me at all.

100% agreement here.

Having ‘experienced’ this first hand and being told ‘we can’t do anything else’ even with photographic evidence and phone records, really makes you wonder why you went to the police at all.

It all comes down to whether or not they can ‘get it past the magistrate’ and in Canberra the perpetrators have more rights than the victims.

The fact is that people have sex all the time.
Proving that any particular sex act was non-consensual is virtually impossible.

In pandering to the feminist lobby, its the rights of those *accused* of rape are the rights that have been severely eroded over the last 30 years.

Just look at what happened when a psycho lesbian who’d been fantasising about murdering men equipped herself with a knife and lured a guy into Telopea Park and brutally stabbed him to death – all she had to say was the magic word ‘Rape’ and the entire machinery of justice fell all over itself to help her get away with it.

chewy14 8:48 am 10 Nov 12

kakosi said :

Rape victims know that unless they are beaten badly it’s a waste of time going to the police as it won’t ever make it to a court case.

I’m not in any way saying that this is the situation in this case – just that this news doesn’t surprise me at all.

Yeah its horrible, they should just lock those scumbags away.

Who cares about pesky things like evidence and presumption of innocence? No one has ever lied to the police, so they should just take someone at their word.

esp 9:35 pm 09 Nov 12

Lookout Smithers said :

bundah said :

Police have said that the claims of sexual assault made by the young female were ‘not substantiated’ hence the reason for closing the investigation.Make of it what you will.

So any claim of an offence having being committed that is unsubstantiated gets closed? And only one go at it too. I am not sure that is really how it works. Pretty sure there are a few unsubstantiated claims out there police are trying to substantiate years and decades on. Try again with the other finger genius.

nyssa1976 8:53 pm 09 Nov 12

kakosi said :

Rape victims know that unless they are beaten badly it’s a waste of time going to the police as it won’t ever make it to a court case.

I’m not in any way saying that this is the situation in this case – just that this news doesn’t surprise me at all.

100% agreement here.

Having ‘experienced’ this first hand and being told ‘we can’t do anything else’ even with photographic evidence and phone records, really makes you wonder why you went to the police at all.

It all comes down to whether or not they can ‘get it past the magistrate’ and in Canberra the perpetrators have more rights than the victims.

On the positive side, Canberra Rape Crisis Centre is an excellent resource to use and if anything should be advertised more to allow those who don’t wish to speak out to receive some form of counselling for their trauma. I can’t recommend it highly enough.

kakosi 8:21 pm 09 Nov 12

Rape victims know that unless they are beaten badly it’s a waste of time going to the police as it won’t ever make it to a court case.

I’m not in any way saying that this is the situation in this case – just that this news doesn’t surprise me at all.

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