No jail time for the sex skypers

caf said :

steveu said :

caf said :

Please point out exactly what legislation you are referring to. It is my understanding that they were charged under existing ACT statutes.

I will not point out exactly which legislation I am referring to, however I will refer you to the charge of “using a carriage service in a way which was offensive” which was I believe enacted through commonwealth legislation.

(http://www.canberratimes.com.au/act-news/adfa-skype-scandal-cadets-sentenced-avoid-jail-20131023-2w0hz.html#ixzz2iWaMqtdX)

Yes, that is indeed a part of Commonwealth legislation, but it certainly wasn’t rushed through for this case – that part of the Criminal Code was last amended in 2004.

(The “act of indecency” that McDonald was additionally found guilty of is under ACT law).

Well said.

Of course steveu won’t outline the legislation he is talking about, because he’s talking bollocks.

Masquara said :

Apparently one of the perpetrators is being welcomed back to continue his ADFA studies.

This is s***.

Shame we can’t we spell out “s***” when we have the s*** and are describing s***s …

steveu said :

caf said :

Please point out exactly what legislation you are referring to. It is my understanding that they were charged under existing ACT statutes.

I will not point out exactly which legislation I am referring to, however I will refer you to the charge of “using a carriage service in a way which was offensive” which was I believe enacted through commonwealth legislation.

(http://www.canberratimes.com.au/act-news/adfa-skype-scandal-cadets-sentenced-avoid-jail-20131023-2w0hz.html#ixzz2iWaMqtdX)

Yes, that is indeed a part of Commonwealth legislation, but it certainly wasn’t rushed through for this case – that part of the Criminal Code was last amended in 2004.

(The “act of indecency” that McDonald was additionally found guilty of is under ACT law).

Apparently one of the perpetrators is being welcomed back to continue his ADFA studies.

This is s***.

steveu said :

The point I have made is that these fellas have learnt their lesson, and been punished.

But do not forget that ‘fraternisation’ is as pointed out by Thumper, is grounds for disciplinary action. She did get into an ‘arrangement’ with one of the guys. These men did the wrong thing. But so did she.

She did a wrong thing in agreeing to have sex with the bloke, which is Not OK, as far as the military is concerned, but young people having sex is not exactly headline news for the rest of us. Yes, the military have different standards etc etc, but still…

He did a vile and disgusting and treacherous betrayal of trust and intimacy, which I reckon is probably Not OK for anybody in the community. Equating what she did with what he did is fatuous.

If some bloke did that to my daughter I’d give him a beating.

And if I understand other reports correctly, one of these turds was also responsible for forcing other young men to engage in homosexual acts as part of becoming involved with the ADFA rugby team. WTF is that about? I worked at ADFA for a couple of years, and I’m wondering what the hell is going on out at that place?

p1 said :

Deref said :

Australia’s finest.

These guys are to the officers of the ADF what first year law students are to judges.

Well said.

Yes, gentlemen, having consensual sex that’s against your workplace rules is just as bad as filming it and showing it to various third parties without the consent of your partner.

It’s the sex that was the problem here, not the unapproved pornography. In fact, I am looking at naked pictures of your sister right now. She’s a slut for letting this happen to her.

steveu said :

Incredible how Gillard created legislation and got it through in a week to get the men brought before the courts.

Existing legislation was used. No new legislation was created.

I’m not sure what you are referring to.

Deref said :

Australia’s finest.

These guys are to the officers of the ADF what first year law students are to judges.

caf said :

Please point out exactly what legislation you are referring to. It is my understanding that they were charged under existing ACT statutes.

I will not point out exactly which legislation I am referring to, however I will refer you to the charge of “using a carriage service in a way which was offensive” which was I believe enacted through commonwealth legislation.

(http://www.canberratimes.com.au/act-news/adfa-skype-scandal-cadets-sentenced-avoid-jail-20131023-2w0hz.html#ixzz2iWaMqtdX)

I would expect the decision on McDonald’s future with the ADF was made long ago. Now the court case is over, it can be announced and carried out.

Just glad I know their names what these scum bags look like. This mud is going to stick for a long time.

Im suprised one of them even considered sleeping with a woman, considering he prefers to receive gobbies from new footy team members.

steveu said :

These fellas learnt a painful lesson. Incredible how Gillard created legislation and got it through in a week to get the men brought before the courts.

Please point out exactly what legislation you are referring to. It is my understanding that they were charged under existing ACT statutes.

Australia’s finest.

The point I have made is that these fellas have learnt their lesson, and been punished.

But do not forget that ‘fraternisation’ is as pointed out by Thumper, is grounds for disciplinary action. She did get into an ‘arrangement’ with one of the guys. These men did the wrong thing. But so did she.

Proboscus said :

steveu said :

These fellas learnt a painful lesson. Incredible how Gillard created legislation and got it through in a week to get the men brought before the courts. God help them if it was rape. Which it wasn’t. It does appear to be fraternisation as well which I’m pretty sure is frowned upon at ADFA. I would presume the victim in this case would be brought to account for her part in the act. Not that she would ever be named as it may harm her reputation.

You’re right – the lesson these grubs learned was that you can treat women like dirt and get away with it.

Fraternisation is severely frowned upon and is grounds for disciplinary action.

Forget the disciplinary action – didn’t the victim of this incident get bullied out of the ADF?

I understand the victim was already in the poo for another incident of fraternising, and probably left after realising that a good career would be difficult with these things on her record.

It’s a real shame. There’s no upside for the people involved in these situations, one can only hope the standard has been raised a bit for others.

steveu said :

These fellas learnt a painful lesson. Incredible how Gillard created legislation and got it through in a week to get the men brought before the courts. God help them if it was rape. Which it wasn’t. It does appear to be fraternisation as well which I’m pretty sure is frowned upon at ADFA. I would presume the victim in this case would be brought to account for her part in the act. Not that she would ever be named as it may harm her reputation.

You’re right – the lesson these grubs learned was that you can treat women like dirt and get away with it.

Fraternisation is severely frowned upon and is grounds for disciplinary action.

Forget the disciplinary action – didn’t the victim of this incident get bullied out of the ADF?

These fellas learnt a painful lesson. Incredible how Gillard created legislation and got it through in a week to get the men brought before the courts. God help them if it was rape. Which it wasn’t. It does appear to be fraternisation as well which I’m pretty sure is frowned upon at ADFA. I would presume the victim in this case would be brought to account for her part in the act. Not that she would ever be named as it may harm her reputation.