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Ohh no light rail

By Liam46 12 June 2013 85

You have got to be joking , it would be funny it it wasn’t serious.

18 Million dollars to look into light rail, considering the buses are not fully patronized and this would serve one suburb.

Why do you think other city councils would never consider it, like Geelong, Woolongong or Gold coast or Bendigo for example.

Answer they could never afford it, and it would do their budget in for decades.

So can anybody in their right mind explain how the Canberra City Council would be any different ?

Who in the ACT government is qualified and experienced enough to run a project this size ?

Well it doesn’t really matter, when it comes to accountability i know who will be here for a very long time paying, its you and me the taxpayer. Its never going to work you know.

What’s Your opinion?


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Innovation 1:14 pm 26 Jun 13

watto23 said :

My concern is not that whether light rail is money well spent. i think it is, but only if it is used to rapidly transport people between the town centres. the current plan is to have stops every kilometre or so, so if it doesn’t bypass traffic lights i fail to see why anyone would catch it. Its the same reason many do not catch a bus now, because it takes too long A 25 minute journey from Tuggeranong in a car is a 45-60+ minute journey by bus.

I’m not opposed to a light rail service with some intermediate stops in places like dickson, erindale etc, but id think only a couple of stops between town centres with smaller buses delivering passengers to those stops, or facilities like park and rides.

As long as they build it to be capable of supporting a rapid and all stops service then it probably could work. That said, i’d be just as happy with a rapid bus service, but a proper one with its own dedicated lane the whole way that bypasses intersections.

Even in Sydney, many train stations are within walking distance of each other. A properly designed bus or train stop should be able to get passengers on or off in less than a minute. I agree that any transport service must not be delayed at all by any traffic, including intersections or bottlenecks, but regular stops shouldn’t add much time. Reducing the number of stops is a bit like having a hospital with no patients.

watto23 11:45 am 26 Jun 13

My concern is not that whether light rail is money well spent. i think it is, but only if it is used to rapidly transport people between the town centres. the current plan is to have stops every kilometre or so, so if it doesn’t bypass traffic lights i fail to see why anyone would catch it. Its the same reason many do not catch a bus now, because it takes too long A 25 minute journey from Tuggeranong in a car is a 45-60+ minute journey by bus.

I’m not opposed to a light rail service with some intermediate stops in places like dickson, erindale etc, but id think only a couple of stops between town centres with smaller buses delivering passengers to those stops, or facilities like park and rides.

As long as they build it to be capable of supporting a rapid and all stops service then it probably could work. That said, i’d be just as happy with a rapid bus service, but a proper one with its own dedicated lane the whole way that bypasses intersections.

farout 9:44 am 26 Jun 13

miz said :

Hey Comic, because I like having a decent backyard (for vegies, shady microclimate etc), Gunners is unthinkable.

The older suburbs of Gunners – Palmerston, Nicholls, Ngunnawal, Amaroo – tend to have decent block sizes.

frankie 9:25 pm 25 Jun 13

BicycleCanberra said :

Gungahlin Al said :

FFS, that could only come from someone who has never set foot on a bus.

The red rapid line is extremely well frequented throughout the day, and in peak periods it’s packed to the point where passengers at the Civic interchange literally can’t get on.

+1 for every single day I have to do the entire ride standing up wedged in between other people jammed right out to the door. “Lack of patronage” my lilly white arse! Lack of seats and lack of a clear run past gridlocked traffic more like.

ACTION should be using more of the Articulated buses for peak rapid routes rather than for school runs. And maybe they can try some bi – articulated buses as well. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ee7QWjXyXZY

You will still have to stand up in light rail cars particularly at peak times don’t worry about that. Even in ass transit cities standing up is the norm I afraid.

+1. ACTION just needs to increase it’s fleet and routes, and improve it’s planning a little more. That would be far less expensive than light rail, and there would be no ripping up of land or infrastructure as a result. Increasing bus services is the most scalable and cost effective solution for the current sprawl we are currently facing in the ACT.

I quite like ACTION. I don’t see anything like the MyWay scanners on the Sydney buses I take. Be grateful, you lot :).

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