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On 21 August 2010 my senate vote will go to…

By johnboy 12 August 2010 57

[First filed: Aug 11, 2010 @ 10:14]

If the Greens can make news with a poll of 400 people then why not have a look at how the RiotACT readership is feeling about the crucial Senate race?

On 21 August in the Senate I will give the higher preference to

  • Lin Hatfield Dodds (Greens) (52%, 366 Votes)
  • Gary Humphries (Liberals) (29%, 204 Votes)
  • Kate Lundy (ALP) (19%, 138 Votes)

Total Voters: 708

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(Bear in mind internet polls should not be taken too seriously)

UPDATE Just bumping this back up the page to shoot for the magical 450+ which apparently makes it a proper sample 😉 (Sadly our fraud prevention systems exclude a lot of potential pollsters)


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BigDave 1:34 am 24 Aug 10

I can’t believe that there are actually Canberrans who have voted Green in the past and are planning to vote Green again.

peterh 12:12 pm 18 Aug 10

sorry, bit late here, where exactly is the green’s IT policy? is it buried under another policy?

Bosworth 1:00 pm 16 Aug 10

Outta Control said :

bd84 said :

caf said :

Roy Morgan have released a poll showing:

In ACT: ALP 41.5% (up 0.7%), L-NP 27% (down 7.2%), Greens 27% (up 5.5%) and Others 4.5% (up 1%). This would most likely result in one ACT ALP Senator and one Greens Senator.

(The sample size was 446, giving a margin of error of 4.1%, and the poll was conducted over February – July).

Sampling 0.1 percent of the ACT’s population is always a good statistical indicator..

Roy Morgan Research was the outfit that did the polls prior to the 2001 election claiming the Labor party would sweep into power. That was, of course, the Tampa/Sept 11 election which saw John Howard and the Liberals sweep back into office with an increased majority.

Poisoning The Well

Grail 4:30 pm 12 Aug 10

Greens do have policies, in case people actually care to look (as opposed to simply being Canberrans towing the party line):

http://greens.org.au/policies/

Read, think, vote.

As for the death tax, I hope I can be in the situation of leaving an inheritance worth more than $5M, excluding any farms or small businesses I might own at the time. There’s that “think” word coming up again. But this is Canberra, where thinking is a career limiting move.

I can’t believe that there are actually Canberrans who have voted Liberal in the past and are planning to vote Liberal again.

@ #48 – sheepish apology.

@ #49 sheepish apology.

hmmmmn maybe. Just sounds like she got caught out and is trying to justify it, it just seems a bit like the “I only buy it for the articles’ excuse.

random 3:24 pm 12 Aug 10

colourful sydney racing identity said :

It is quite possible to drive on unsealed roads in a sedan. Sure there are *some* places you can’t get to, but you don’t *need* to go to them – there are plenty of alternatives.

You don’t “need” to go camping at all. Don’t you have a perfectly good bed at home?

The other car is a Toyota Echo; it isn’t hard to find tracks you wouldn’t want to take one down. It sounds to me like she exemplifies responsible (urban) 4WD ownership: doesn’t use it for commuting, just for trips where it’s an appropriate some sometimes necessary vehicle. Good for her.

KB1971 2:54 pm 12 Aug 10

colourful sydney racing identity said :

KB1971 said :

colourful sydney racing identity said :

KB1971 said :

Lin is not so green it seems:

http://www.canberratimes.com.au/news/local/news/general/greens-candidate-defends-4wd-use/1911207.aspx

A V8 Landcruiser no less.

Apparently she ‘needs’ it to go camping. It really makes me wonder how I have managed to go camping all these years without a four wheel drive….

Depends I guess, if you go to Bendethera then, yes you ‘need’ a 4WD but if you go to the Big 4 at Nellegen then no.

There is camping & then there is “camping”, staying in a tent in a caravan park is not camping.

*sigh* I am not talking about staying in caravan parks. It is quite possible to drive on unsealed roads in a sedan. Sure there are *some* places you can’t get to, but you don’t *need* to go to them – there are plenty of alternatives.

No need to sigh & roll your eyes, I am actually in agreeance with you………

Holden Caulfield 2:48 pm 12 Aug 10

A 4WD owned by a Greens candidate is probably not so bad, but there are plenty of less conspicuous options than a V8 Cruiser, haha.

KB1971 said :

colourful sydney racing identity said :

KB1971 said :

Lin is not so green it seems:

http://www.canberratimes.com.au/news/local/news/general/greens-candidate-defends-4wd-use/1911207.aspx

A V8 Landcruiser no less.

Apparently she ‘needs’ it to go camping. It really makes me wonder how I have managed to go camping all these years without a four wheel drive….

Depends I guess, if you go to Bendethera then, yes you ‘need’ a 4WD but if you go to the Big 4 at Nellegen then no.

There is camping & then there is “camping”, staying in a tent in a caravan park is not camping.

*sigh* I am not talking about staying in caravan parks. It is quite possible to drive on unsealed roads in a sedan. Sure there are *some* places you can’t get to, but you don’t *need* to go to them – there are plenty of alternatives.

Furry Jesus 2:06 pm 12 Aug 10

How about

‘So potentially under the Greens party policy, all art objects and jewellery looted from Jewish communities in Europe during WW2 by your Nazi ancestors and your rural estate funded by the sale of gold and blood diamonds stolen in Africa by your Boer uncle in the 1970’s would all be vulnerable to seizure, sale and the government taking half the proceeds. Too bad, the Greens want their 55%, thanks.’

just for balance’s sake.

KB1971 2:04 pm 12 Aug 10

colourful sydney racing identity said :

KB1971 said :

Lin is not so green it seems:

http://www.canberratimes.com.au/news/local/news/general/greens-candidate-defends-4wd-use/1911207.aspx

A V8 Landcruiser no less.

Apparently she ‘needs’ it to go camping. It really makes me wonder how I have managed to go camping all these years without a four wheel drive….

Depends I guess, if you go to Bendethera then, yes you ‘need’ a 4WD but if you go to the Big 4 at Nellegen then no.

There is camping & then there is “camping”, staying in a tent in a caravan park is not camping.

Furry Jesus 2:00 pm 12 Aug 10

Woody Mann-Caruso said :

Of course all of you who vote for the Greens are quite happy with this little bit of policy?

*gasp*

All those ‘vulnerable and often frail old people’ – who are sitting on more than $5m.

. <- smallest violin

I loved this bit in that article:

‘So potentially under the Greens party policy, precious family heirlooms or jewellery or much-loved family beach shack or painting that had been in the family for generations would all be vulnerable to seizure, sale and the government taking half the proceeds. As a refugee, your grandmother smuggled her grandmother’s priceless engagement ring out of occupied Europe in World War II to Australia. Too bad, the Greens want their 55%, thanks.’

I never knew my grandmother was a refugee. Or that we have any precious heirlooms, jewellery, or paintings. As for a much-loved beach shack… If the Greens manage to find these and sell them, I’d be very happy to get 50% of what I didn’t even know I’d inherited.

Icepoet 1:56 pm 12 Aug 10

If I wanted a guaranteed vote for someone who is going to do exactly what I would do and someone who has exactly the same beliefs as me I would need to create a clone and vote for myself.

Unfortunately I don’t have a clone, and I’m not that interested in standing for parliament so I’ll do the next best thing and vote for the person/party who most closely represents what I stand for – even if there are some of their policies I disagree with. In this case I’ll be voting for the Greens. I may not agree with every single policy but they’re a hell of a lot closer to my beliefs than either the Labor or Liberal party.

Can any Labor or Liberal voter here say that they agree with 100% of their parties policies? Julia’s ‘Citizen’s forum’ or Abbott’s ‘Carrier Pigeon – oops…Broadband solution’?

None of the parties are perfect (far from it in this election) and the only thing a voter can do is pick the person/party to which they feel is the best representation of who they are and what they believe.

I’m a Christian and a climate change skeptic and I’ll be voting Green.

Holierthanthou 1:44 pm 12 Aug 10

Just bumping this back up the page to shoot for the magical 450+ which apparently makes it a proper sample

Nothing magic about 450. A self selected sample is never really a proper sample, unless everyone selects themselves or if people select themselves at random with a known (and non-zero) probability (the former being a special case of the latter).

Self selecting samples aren’t totally useless, they can tell about the (say) 483 people that responded to the poll, but making inferences about the whole of the population from a self selecting sample is not really possible.

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