18 January 2014

On the subject of melty roads

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After reading the Melty Roads post, I thought I’d send some images of the stones that were hastily laid at the Cooleman carpark during one of the hot days before Christmas (20 Dec 2013).

This carpark was only resurfaced in the last 6 months.

The work crews putting this down must have had a few to do that day – they didn’t waste any time. The guy driving the tipper truck was tearing round the carpark, braking suddenly and rapidly reversing – almost reversed over one of his work crew! No traffic management people in place that I could see.

There has been no attempt to clean up the loose stones since this stuff was put down

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fimail said :

Pity the trolley collectors? What about shoppers with full trolleys? The last couple of times I’ve shopped there, I’ve had to carry my groceries across the carpark in several loads because I couldn’t get my trolley anywhere near my car! I’ve already complained to TAMS about this and about the dead trees that mean no shade for the cars. One of the few shady spots is where the trolleys are stored! Makes me want to shop at Southlands instead.

You had me up until no shade for your car. Juuuust a bit precious there my Princess.

Wow, a new low.

I can kind of understand why so many people have suv/4wd cars in the ACT now.

It’s clear that the government/TAMS do not care about cars or people that wish to keep their cars stone chip free.

Honestly, how are there not more people outraged by this rubbish.

PrestigeDialaDriver9:12 pm 22 Jan 14

A lot of elderly people shop here at Cooleman Court. I’ve seen on two occasions elderly women struggling in the heat to push their trolleys over this. Obviously I left my own trolley abandoned to help them over it. (Luckily no one nicked off with my trolley whilst in the process).

This can’t be good for elderly people’s health, especially in the heat, and having to over exert themselves due to this. Not good, not acceptable. Where’s the foresight in consideration for the elderly?

same thing along a few roads in Fyshwick it was certainly a surprise to come across them – talking to the Gov person responsible it was to stop the melty roads getting worse and no static traffic plan is required as it is a moving convoy doing it – just a loose stone sign. Driving over the same road today the stones are either embedded or flung to the side of the road.

thy_dungeonman said :

Deref said :

It might be more effective than the old method. And I suppose the stones get bedded into the tar by car tyres and cyclists.

Surely you mean motorcyclists? a cyclist riding through this mess can’t do much more than make a nice groove in it and try not to fall off.

Note that I said “cyclists” – I wasn’t talking about their tyres.

But yes, I suppose motorcyclists would be equally effective.

It also a bit like the new section of Macs Reef Road done by Palerang Shire. Down not even six months and already they have had to spread loose windscreen breaking stone all over it. With patched up potholes it looks twenty years old already.

No wonder they were in such a hurry, they had to get to the Watson shops to do the same half-arsed job there.

Mordd said :

That looks like a piss poor quality job from the photos, surely they could have waited till night when the carpark was clear and done the job properly, that ‘swath down the middle’ strategy they’ve obviously employed is a pathetic job at best.

Atagonist sorry to disappoint, but nope not going to say this is industry standard.

But if you and the poster above read the story this was an ’emergency’ measure to get something down due to the melting road surface. This is not the standard method of resealing. And yes road melt does happen on hot mix roads too.

Will be interesting to see how they fix it up later, if at all.

thy_dungeonman11:47 am 19 Jan 14

Deref said :

It might be more effective than the old method. And I suppose the stones get bedded into the tar by car tyres and cyclists.

Surely you mean motorcyclists? a cyclist riding through this mess can’t do much more than make a nice groove in it and try not to fall off.

fimail said :

Pity the trolley collectors? What about shoppers with full trolleys?

The last time I went shopping there a woman was struggling to get her trolley across the stones so I gave her a hand and it did require a lot of force to plough through that gravel.

That looks like a piss poor quality job from the photos, surely they could have waited till night when the carpark was clear and done the job properly, that ‘swath down the middle’ strategy they’ve obviously employed is a pathetic job at best.

wildturkeycanoe9:40 pm 18 Jan 14

Spotto the Downer vehicle in second pic. Now we know who the culprit is.

Melty roads in 45 degrees and bare feet. Makes you move quickly.

Not too sure about added stones with that, though. What were they? Crushed and not stirred?

Pity the trolley collectors? What about shoppers with full trolleys? The last couple of times I’ve shopped there, I’ve had to carry my groceries across the carpark in several loads because I couldn’t get my trolley anywhere near my car! I’ve already complained to TAMS about this and about the dead trees that mean no shade for the cars. One of the few shady spots is where the trolleys are stored! Makes me want to shop at Southlands instead.

I pity the trolley collectors.

Quality!

JC (Just chipseal-it) will be here shortly to assure you this is industry standard, will last at least 5 years before it needs doing again, and that you are just a whinger.

So this is a cheap way to do chipseal? Wait until the tar melts from the ambient heat then drop stones on it?

It might be more effective than the old method. And I suppose the stones get bedded into the tar by car tyres and cyclists.

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