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Pedal Power gives ALP, Greens a ‘pass’ grade on cycling

By Anne Treasure - 7 October 2016 21

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The cycling policies of the three major parties have come under scrutiny after the release of a review by Pedal Power ACT, the largest cycling advocacy organisation in the ACT region.

“I’m happy to see that Labor and the Greens have recognised the importance of the bike-riding vote in the ACT, but they need to show stronger leadership and action on cycling issues and infrastructure while in office as well as in the lead-up to an election,” Pedal Power ACT CEO John Armstrong said this week.

Armstrong acknowledged that ACT Labor and the ACT Greens have some credible policies relating to cycling infrastructure – most notably the Greens’ proposed $60 million investment over four years – but have a track record of having big ideas with very little capacity to implement those ideas in Government.

“My concern is that Labor is merely doing the bare minimum to avoid political flak when it comes to cycling issues and infrastructure,” he said.

The organisation called for recognition that cycling represents more than simply transport for the ACT region, but also tourism, recreation and lifestyle, with all the economic, health and social benefits that brings.

And while the cycling-related policies of Labor and the Greens were given a passing grade by Pedal Power, the lack of official policies around cycling and active transport from the Canberra Liberals was a glaring omission.*

“I look forward to the announcement of some official cycling policies from the Canberra Liberals,” said Armstrong.

Canberra Liberals spokesperson Alistair Coe gave a good showing at the Pedal Power ACT 2016 Election Forum in late September. He spoke eloquently on cycling issues, including the need for education for both motorists and bike riders about sharing the road, and the economic benefits of bringing elite cycling events to the ACT.

During the forum Armstrong voiced scepticism that the Liberals would deliver anything more than words for bike riders, and just over a week out from polling day it seems he was correct.

You can view the Pedal Power ACT 2016 Election Review here.

* The RiotACT understands the Liberals will make an announcement on cycling policy in coming days.

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21 Responses to
Pedal Power gives ALP, Greens a ‘pass’ grade on cycling
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dungfungus 9:08 am
07 Oct 16
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Pedal Power is only interested in its itself. They won’t even entertain any contributions to funding their demands by paying licence/registration fees.

They have no credibility as far as I am concerned.

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Anne Treasure 7:10 am
08 Oct 16
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dungfungus said :

Pedal Power is only interested in its itself. They won’t even entertain any contributions to funding their demands by paying licence/registration fees.

They have no credibility as far as I am concerned.

I’d hazard that Pedal Power ACT is only interested in itself, as it is made up of a membership of Canberra cyclists whose interests it represents, so you’re spot on there.

The amount of taxpayer $ that go to funding cycling infrastructure is miniscule compared to the amount required to fund motoring, and most cyclists also drive and pay car and license levies.

As a car driver myself, I’m pretty happy that some of my fees go to cycling infrastructure, because the more people who cycle for transport means fewer cars on the road.

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dungfungus 9:06 am
08 Oct 16
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Anne Treasure said :

dungfungus said :

Pedal Power is only interested in its itself. They won’t even entertain any contributions to funding their demands by paying licence/registration fees.

They have no credibility as far as I am concerned.

I’d hazard that Pedal Power ACT is only interested in itself, as it is made up of a membership of Canberra cyclists whose interests it represents, so you’re spot on there.

The amount of taxpayer $ that go to funding cycling infrastructure is miniscule compared to the amount required to fund motoring, and most cyclists also drive and pay car and license levies.

As a car driver myself, I’m pretty happy that some of my fees go to cycling infrastructure, because the more people who cycle for transport means fewer cars on the road.

Most Canberrans can drive a car but not all can ride a bicycle and there are parts of Canberra that only the fittest cyclists can negotiate.

Car drivers that never cycle not only pay for the roads they drive on but they pay for the cycle paths they will never ride on. Does that sound equitable?

I have difficulty in reconciling your claim that you want fewer cars on the road but you are happy to see revenue collected from cars being applied to cycling infrastructure (that very few people use).

Yesterday, I drove along the Monaro Highway from Hume to Gungahlin. Despite this thoroughfare having dedicated cycle lanes (the section between the Airport and Federal Highway costing millions of dollars) I did not see one cyclist. The weather was perfect for “active transport” and the road traffic was very light.

How do you explain that and justify the massive expenditure for it?

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Dondon 8:24 pm
09 Oct 16
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dungfungus said :

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Car drivers that never cycle not only pay for the roads they drive on but they pay for the cycle paths they will never ride on. Does that sound equitable?

Waa wa. We get it you don’t like cyclists.

I pay for a whole bunch of government services in my rather large tax bill that I don’t use. Rather than be a pork chop about it, I suck it up as it is part of living in a civil society.

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pink little birdie 9:06 pm
09 Oct 16
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dungfungus said :

Pedal Power is only interested in its itself. They won’t even entertain any contributions to funding their demands by paying licence/registration fees.

They have no credibility as far as I am concerned.

Because every single government (inc overseas) study into it has the scheme more expensive than it would cost to administer and be really complex.
Commuter cyclists (who are the ones you want to license and register) already carry ID and deviate very little from a set path – just like drivers.

Too many holes in it for an expensive and ineffective plan.

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dungfungus 9:50 pm
09 Oct 16
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Dondon said :

dungfungus said :

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Car drivers that never cycle not only pay for the roads they drive on but they pay for the cycle paths they will never ride on. Does that sound equitable?

Waa wa. We get it you don’t like cyclists.

I pay for a whole bunch of government services in my rather large tax bill that I don’t use. Rather than be a pork chop about it, I suck it up as it is part of living in a civil society.

I have never said I don’t like cyclists. In fact, I am on record as stating I always give way to them and respect they have a right to share our roads.
There are idiot cyclists and idiot drivers.

What I don’t like is the disproportionate amount of resources that are allocated to cycling infrastructure in the Territory and the way it has become politicised.

Instead of offering a puerile attack on me why don’t you try and explain why no one appears to be using the multi-million dollar cycleway adjacent to the new Majura Expressway?

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JC 11:38 pm
09 Oct 16
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dungfungus said :

Pedal Power is only interested in its itself. They won’t even entertain any contributions to funding their demands by paying licence/registration fees.

They have no credibility as far as I am concerned.

What you mean they are a self intrest group representing the views of it it’s members.

Shock horror who would have thought? In ways like political parties aren’t they? Or lobbyists. Only difference is unlike say land developers that don’t have money to donate to the likes of the liberal party with notes of suggestion attached to the donation cheque.

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Mordd / Chris Richar 2:14 am
10 Oct 16
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dungfungus said :

Dondon said :

dungfungus said :

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Car drivers that never cycle not only pay for the roads they drive on but they pay for the cycle paths they will never ride on. Does that sound equitable?

Waa wa. We get it you don’t like cyclists.

I pay for a whole bunch of government services in my rather large tax bill that I don’t use. Rather than be a pork chop about it, I suck it up as it is part of living in a civil society.

I have never said I don’t like cyclists. In fact, I am on record as stating I always give way to them and respect they have a right to share our roads.
There are idiot cyclists and idiot drivers.

What I don’t like is the disproportionate amount of resources that are allocated to cycling infrastructure in the Territory and the way it has become politicised.

Instead of offering a puerile attack on me why don’t you try and explain why no one appears to be using the multi-million dollar cycleway adjacent to the new Majura Expressway?

I drive along there multiple times a week to and from work, and can assure you I see cyclists using it almost every single time I drive along that way.

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dungfungus 10:26 am
10 Oct 16
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Mordd / Chris Richards said :

dungfungus said :

Dondon said :

dungfungus said :

[
Car drivers that never cycle not only pay for the roads they drive on but they pay for the cycle paths they will never ride on. Does that sound equitable?

Waa wa. We get it you don’t like cyclists.

I pay for a whole bunch of government services in my rather large tax bill that I don’t use. Rather than be a pork chop about it, I suck it up as it is part of living in a civil society.

I have never said I don’t like cyclists. In fact, I am on record as stating I always give way to them and respect they have a right to share our roads.
There are idiot cyclists and idiot drivers.

What I don’t like is the disproportionate amount of resources that are allocated to cycling infrastructure in the Territory and the way it has become politicised.

Instead of offering a puerile attack on me why don’t you try and explain why no one appears to be using the multi-million dollar cycleway adjacent to the new Majura Expressway?

I drive along there multiple times a week to and from work, and can assure you I see cyclists using it almost every single time I drive along that way.

“almost every time…..”

My case rests.

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Dondon 11:36 am
10 Oct 16
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dungfungus said :

Instead of offering a puerile attack on me why don’t you try and explain why no one appears to be using the multi-million dollar cycleway adjacent to the new Majura Expressway?

No one?

I use it quite often, so do a whole heap of other cyclists and pedestrians I see on it when using it.

Also giving way to cyclists has nothing to do if you like them or not, that is part of your responsibility as a road user. You can still dislike cyclists and give way and it is very obvious you are anti-cycling.

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Dondon 11:38 am
10 Oct 16
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dungfungus said :

“almost every time…..”

My case rests.

I didn’t see any cars on the Majura expressway the other day, I guess then why did the government pay 100s of millions of dollars building that when we could have stuck with the old road.

My case rests

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pink little birdie 2:17 pm
10 Oct 16
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dungfungus said :

Mordd / Chris Richards said :

dungfungus said :

Dondon said :

dungfungus said :

[
Car drivers that never cycle not only pay for the roads they drive on but they pay for the cycle paths they will never ride on. Does that sound equitable?

Waa wa. We get it you don’t like cyclists.

I pay for a whole bunch of government services in my rather large tax bill that I don’t use. Rather than be a pork chop about it, I suck it up as it is part of living in a civil society.

I have never said I don’t like cyclists. In fact, I am on record as stating I always give way to them and respect they have a right to share our roads.
There are idiot cyclists and idiot drivers.

What I don’t like is the disproportionate amount of resources that are allocated to cycling infrastructure in the Territory and the way it has become politicised.

Instead of offering a puerile attack on me why don’t you try and explain why no one appears to be using the multi-million dollar cycleway adjacent to the new Majura Expressway?

I drive along there multiple times a week to and from work, and can assure you I see cyclists using it almost every single time I drive along that way.

“almost every time…..”

My case rests.

Unless you are driving along there between 7:30am and 8:30am, then again in the afternoon between 4:30 and 5:30 you are unlikely to see many. Generally speaking commuter cyclists who need to travel a more than 10km are early starters and early finishes. Even if they aren’t they generally get to work to shower and change before 9 and takes a minimum of about 20 minutes.

Also when you look at the traffic cams at intersections with 10 cars and 10 cyclists the cyclists get going faster and spread out far more quickly than cars do. So the volume of cycist get dealt with quicker.
Though it seems that you are of the opinion that the cycle path must have cyclists on it all the time.

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dungfungus 2:53 pm
10 Oct 16
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Dondon said :

dungfungus said :

“almost every time…..”

My case rests.

I didn’t see any cars on the Majura expressway the other day, I guess then why did the government pay 100s of millions of dollars building that when we could have stuck with the old road.

My case rests

More puerility in trying to defend the indefensible.

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dungfungus 3:41 pm
10 Oct 16
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pink little birdie said :

dungfungus said :

Mordd / Chris Richards said :

dungfungus said :

Dondon said :

dungfungus said :

[
Car drivers that never cycle not only pay for the roads they drive on but they pay for the cycle paths they will never ride on. Does that sound equitable?

Waa wa. We get it you don’t like cyclists.

I pay for a whole bunch of government services in my rather large tax bill that I don’t use. Rather than be a pork chop about it, I suck it up as it is part of living in a civil society.

I have never said I don’t like cyclists. In fact, I am on record as stating I always give way to them and respect they have a right to share our roads.
There are idiot cyclists and idiot drivers.

What I don’t like is the disproportionate amount of resources that are allocated to cycling infrastructure in the Territory and the way it has become politicised.

Instead of offering a puerile attack on me why don’t you try and explain why no one appears to be using the multi-million dollar cycleway adjacent to the new Majura Expressway?

I drive along there multiple times a week to and from work, and can assure you I see cyclists using it almost every single time I drive along that way.

“almost every time…..”

My case rests.

Unless you are driving along there between 7:30am and 8:30am, then again in the afternoon between 4:30 and 5:30 you are unlikely to see many. Generally speaking commuter cyclists who need to travel a more than 10km are early starters and early finishes. Even if they aren’t they generally get to work to shower and change before 9 and takes a minimum of about 20 minutes.

Also when you look at the traffic cams at intersections with 10 cars and 10 cyclists the cyclists get going faster and spread out far more quickly than cars do. So the volume of cycist get dealt with quicker.
Though it seems that you are of the opinion that the cycle path must have cyclists on it all the time.

Isn’t it reasonable to expect that an investment of millions of dollars of taxpayers money be utilised 24/7 instead of only 2 hours every day?
It is incomprehensible that it has been built apparently for some elite commuters who pay nothing for the privilege and even sponge a daily free shower from their employer.
What a niggardly mob they are.

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wildturkeycanoe 9:37 pm
10 Oct 16
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Anne Treasure said :

As a car driver myself, I’m pretty happy that some of my fees go to cycling infrastructure, because the more people who cycle for transport means fewer cars on the road.

But it also means more cyclists on the road, who are more of an obstruction to traffic than a car is, because they travel half the speed of a car but still [legally] take up as much space on the road. As long as they use the off-road cycling infrastructure it is money well spent but if they insist on using car lanes instead of the smoother, designated paths, they shouldn’t get another cent.

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