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Pedestrian access in Civic West hits a new pathetic low

By johnboy - 29 August 2012 60

worst footpath in the world?

For months the footpaths on the western side of Civic have been nothing short of a disgrace. Paths abruptly ending dumping pedestrians across major roads, paths dug up and left caged off for weeks without sign of activity, weird dog legged diversions for walkers dancing in traffic.

But this morning on Alinga Street outside the post office things reached an new noteworthy low (pictured).

One would hope a smallish city state would be capable of better coordination.

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Pedestrian access in Civic West hits a new pathetic low
c_c 11:40 am 29 Aug 12

Antagonist said :

Jim Jones said :

OMG once I totally had to walk around a bit of fence … sooooo lame.

Worst day evah. This city just, like, totally sucks.

Take another look at the picture. Describe for me, in 50 moves or less, how you would negotiate that section of footpath from in a wheelchair without being forced onto the road? Or while pushing a pram?

I wouldn’t have been so myopic, would have seen an obstacle existed a few metres ahead and chosen to use the other side of the street, crossing at the pedestrian light at the Northbourne end or the safety island at the West Row end of Alinga St, proceeding on the Melbourne building side of the street.

This is just laziness.

c_c 11:36 am 29 Aug 12

Comic_and_Gamer_Nerd said :

c_c, do you have anything to do with these works? Seems strange to defend something like that.

I have nothing to do with the works, except for walking through them almost daily for their duration.

Never had an issue.

The improvements made are nice, replacing some aged and sometimes dangerous pavement. The extensive remodelling around Canberra House on the corner of Marcus Clarke St was a big improvement.

Plenty of ways to walk a couple of metres one way or the other and avoid the works easily.

When you’re repaving pedestrian thoroughfares, it’s going to be inconvenient. And when the weather isn’t great, it’s going to delay things. You can’t damn well lay pavers under people’s feet, and you can only work so fast.

You know The Simpsons (back in the days when they did humorous social commentary) mocked what a lot of you are now doing. Remember the episode with the bear tax. One bear sighting and the whole town went nuts, thinking it was a crisis. They wanted the ‘crisis’ fixed, so the mayor introduced a bear patrol but raised taxes to fund it. Then the public complained about the tax.

Same thing here.

Antagonist 11:34 am 29 Aug 12

Jim Jones said :

OMG once I totally had to walk around a bit of fence … sooooo lame.

Worst day evah. This city just, like, totally sucks.

Take another look at the picture. Describe for me, in 50 moves or less, how you would negotiate that section of footpath from in a wheelchair without being forced onto the road? Or while pushing a pram?

Mordd 11:33 am 29 Aug 12

Every time I see something like this, I ask myself, how would this be to navigate for someone in a wheelchair? Put yourself in someone else’s shoes (or in this case wheels) and imagine it from their perspective for a second, and then you might realise why this is more than just an issue of being annoyed at having to walk around something.

johnboy 11:06 am 29 Aug 12

Jim Jones said :

OMG once I totally had to walk around a bit of fence … sooooo lame.

Worst day evah. This city just, like, totally sucks.

Perhaps try and consider that this is a busy stretch of pavement, and that not all pedestrians have the same mobility that you do.

Jim Jones 11:02 am 29 Aug 12

OMG once I totally had to walk around a bit of fence … sooooo lame.

Worst day evah. This city just, like, totally sucks.

Comic_and_Gamer_Nerd 10:50 am 29 Aug 12

c_c said :

bundah said :

Well you may be content with mediocrity but some of us strive for and often achieve excellence unlike the excessively lengthy time that it takes to complete roadworks and repairs to pedestrian access areas. Mind you this has been the norm in Canberra for decades much to my chagrin.No hurry boys steady as she goes!

So you walk past and through these works everyday do you?

How would you do it better? Come on, upload a diagram genius and let’s see.

Some people need to harden up. (Though given how many people will barrel through a group waling in the opposite direction on the footpath, rather than just move a few inches to the side, why am I not surprised by the whining).

c_c, do you have anything to do with these works? Seems strange to defend something like that.

johnboy 10:46 am 29 Aug 12

Why have competent project management and staggered works when you can just tell everyone to harden up?

c_c 10:39 am 29 Aug 12

bundah said :

Well you may be content with mediocrity but some of us strive for and often achieve excellence unlike the excessively lengthy time that it takes to complete roadworks and repairs to pedestrian access areas. Mind you this has been the norm in Canberra for decades much to my chagrin.No hurry boys steady as she goes!

So you walk past and through these works everyday do you?

How would you do it better? Come on, upload a diagram genius and let’s see.

Some people need to harden up. (Though given how many people will barrel through a group waling in the opposite direction on the footpath, rather than just move a few inches to the side, why am I not surprised by the whining).

bundah 10:32 am 29 Aug 12

c_c said :

Calm down JB, your flaming your own website. They’ve been repaving that whole side of Civic, and it’s made a real improvement. Yes, a short term annoyance but how else are they to do it, you can build under people’s feet?

These changes have nothing to do with the others, it’s Australia Post blowing cash on a reno. Inconvenient, hell yes. But you can easily cross to the other side of the road.

Well you may be content with mediocrity but some of us strive for and often achieve excellence unlike the excessively lengthy time that it takes to complete roadworks and repairs to pedestrian access areas. Mind you this has been the norm in Canberra for decades much to my chagrin.No hurry boys steady as she goes!

dtc 10:24 am 29 Aug 12

I’m surprised no one has been injured crossing Rudd St at the corner of Marcus Clarke St. Wire fencing everywhere, no sight lines to on coming traffic, if you are riding you need to weave in and up and around in order to go up the curb.

c_c 10:05 am 29 Aug 12

Calm down JB, your flaming your own website. They’ve been repaving that whole side of Civic, and it’s made a real improvement. Yes, a short term annoyance but how else are they to do it, you can build under people’s feet?

These changes have nothing to do with the others, it’s Australia Post blowing cash on a reno. Inconvenient, hell yes. But you can easily cross to the other side of the road.

Intel70 10:02 am 29 Aug 12

Maybe if pedestrians paid for rego, they’d be more entitled to complain about facilities…

In all serious though, I agree fully. Temporary diversions for works are rarely well thought through for people commuting on foot in Canberra.

An exception to this the work site on Mort Street in Braddon at the moment, where road centre lines have been shifted, bus stops moved, parking spots moved, all to make way for pedestrians to walk on the road (protected by concrete barriers) whilst the foot path is closed for adjacent building construction. A great example of well planned and implemented temporary traffic management.

Then around the corner at the intersection of Elouera and Lonsdale Streets, the foot path is also closed for construction. The only provision for pedestrians at this site are signs telling them to cross the road. Yet no temporary pedestrian crossing facilities have been provided for them to do so. Pedestrians must then cross the road near roundabouts which Canberran motorists come flying through at stupid speeds, blissfully ignorant of any road user around them who may not be in a motor vehicle. I have seen many a close call.

Anyone using a road who is not in a motor vehicle is among the most vulnerable road users. They should be the first considered and catered for when implementing temporary traffic management and diversions, not the last.

p1 9:37 am 29 Aug 12

If find it interesting that those two boxes have been fenced off. It this to protect them? Because they are in an area that pedestrians are permitted still. Is there some danger, unseen, sufficient to warrant the protection of the green and grey box, but which pedestrians don’t need to worry about?

Stinger 8:50 am 29 Aug 12

So, where have the post boxes gone? I went to clear mine out the other day and it had been removed…

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