Pedestrians mown down on Commonwealth Avenue

johnboy 17 October 2011 38

ACT Policing is seeking witnesses to a collision on Commonwealth Avenue this afternoon (Sunday, October 16).

About 2.10pm an 18-year-old Holt man was driving his car south bound along Commonwealth Avenue when he struck two pedestrians crossing the road approximately 70 meters north of the pedestrian crossing.

ACT Ambulance Service attended the scene and conveyed the pedestrians to hospital. The driver is assisting police with their enquiries.

Police urge anyone who witnessed the incident and is yet to speak to police to contact Crime Stoppers on 1800 333 000, or via act.crimestoppers.com.au. Information can be provided anonymously.

[Courtesy ACT Policing]


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Engleburt_Humperdink Engleburt_Humperdink 7:00 pm 17 Oct 11

I just saw this on the news. Interesting how the women are described as pedestrians, yet they didn’t feel like waiting for the green light at the pedestrian crossing like everyone else.

Where I come from they are called jaywalkers.

Felix the Cat Felix the Cat 8:28 am 18 Oct 11

I’m surprised only two peds got skittled. The amount of peds I see ignoring/not understanding the green man on the traffic lights on Commonwealth Ave is astounding.

shadow boxer shadow boxer 10:03 am 18 Oct 11

They should fence it off during Floriade and push all the pedestrians around and under the bridge. Better outcome for everyone

tidalik tidalik 11:07 am 18 Oct 11

Seventy metres is a long way from the crossing. It’s a bit rich to expect people to obediently cross at the lights every time, when they have to walk out of their way to do so, especially when they are probably visitors to the national capital. How about drivers just be a bit more observant and slow down when they see confused tourists? It’s not like Floriade isn’t on in the same place, at the same time every year.

DUB DUB 11:45 am 18 Oct 11

tidalik said :

Seventy metres is a long way from the crossing. It’s a bit rich to expect people to obediently cross at the lights every time, when they have to walk out of their way to do so, especially when they are probably visitors to the national capital. How about drivers just be a bit more observant and slow down when they see confused tourists? It’s not like Floriade isn’t on in the same place, at the same time every year.

Are you kidding me?how f**king fat and lazy have you got to be, if you can’t walk SEVENTY metres??
And no, rules are the rules, every time I see jaywalkers strolling as if they are on romantic walk in the middle of the road, I want to mow them down, breaking their legs (aiming for knees) with my bumper. 😀

Sgt.Bungers Sgt.Bungers 12:15 pm 18 Oct 11

Felix the Cat said :

I’m surprised only two peds got skittled. The amount of peds I see ignoring/not understanding the green man on the traffic lights on Commonwealth Ave is astounding.

I’m surprised only two people got skittled. The amount of people driving cars I see ignoring/not understanding the 60 km/h speed limit currently on Commonwealth Ave… the common sense concept of slowing to below the speed limit in any situation where there’s lots of pedestrians about… the concept of being legally required to slow down and make every attempt to avoid a collision with a human being on any road regardless of if they’re legally allowed to be/cross there or not… is astounding.

Too many drivers employ the utterly murderous tactic of happily maintaining speed when and lay on the horn when approaching someone who they believe should not be on the road… watching that person scurry out the way… not thinking about what may happen if that person panics and trips over… Only to carry on about how dangerous pedestrians are all the way to the next red traffic light at London Circuit/Parliament House. I urge the idiots who do this to imagine what you would do to the driver who you see maintaining speed towards your children, or a family member, who inevitably may end up on the wrong side of a windscreen for whatever reason.

That said, the 60 km/h signage for Floriade leaves a lot to be desired, as usual. Given the amount of times the speed limit is lowered on an annual basis on Commonwealth Ave, why have Variable Speed Limit signs not bee installed?

tidalik tidalik 12:25 pm 18 Oct 11

DUB said :

tidalik said :

Seventy metres is a long way from the crossing. It’s a bit rich to expect people to obediently cross at the lights every time, when they have to walk out of their way to do so, especially when they are probably visitors to the national capital. How about drivers just be a bit more observant and slow down when they see confused tourists? It’s not like Floriade isn’t on in the same place, at the same time every year.

Are you kidding me?how f**king fat and lazy have you got to be, if you can’t walk SEVENTY metres??
And no, rules are the rules, every time I see jaywalkers strolling as if they are on romantic walk in the middle of the road, I want to mow them down, breaking their legs (aiming for knees) with my bumper. 😀

I hope you are not calling me fat. 😀

It’s not about rules (although I’m not sure if there are any rules to break), it’s about human nature.

And I think you’ll find that driving at people walking on the road is frowned on by the courts. There actually is a rule against that.

poetix poetix 12:32 pm 18 Oct 11

DUB said :

tidalik said :

Seventy metres is a long way from the crossing. It’s a bit rich to expect people to obediently cross at the lights every time, when they have to walk out of their way to do so, especially when they are probably visitors to the national capital. How about drivers just be a bit more observant and slow down when they see confused tourists? It’s not like Floriade isn’t on in the same place, at the same time every year.

Are you kidding me?how f**king fat and lazy have you got to be, if you can’t walk SEVENTY metres??
And no, rules are the rules, every time I see jaywalkers strolling as if they are on romantic walk in the middle of the road, I want to mow them down, breaking their legs (aiming for knees) with my bumper. 😀

Don’t forget that many of the visitors to Floriade are elderly, and that for many of them 70 metres is quite a long walk. Also they may not realise that Commonwealth Avenue is a major road, if they come from Sydney. They may think that it’s part of the park!

It does seem strange that so many people are made to cross the major thoroughfare to see the flowers.

shadow boxer shadow boxer 12:44 pm 18 Oct 11

Strange ? it’s dead set madness, someone will get killed eventually.

I think the rules for a diabled sticker are ability to walk 100 metres, let them park on the Regatta point side and funnell the able bodied around and under the bridge.

DUB DUB 12:49 pm 18 Oct 11

Sgt.Bungers
I drive there every day, yes, I do follow advised speed limit of 60 km/h, but there is a small percentage of cars that do the same, if they were serious about imposing speed limit, then ACT Policing would have set up a speed trap just over the bridge, as you drive from south side, a week of doing exactly that would make people slow down.
As for slowing down for jaywalkers-of course, I do, but in my mind I imagine how I hit them and break their legs, then get out of my car, look down at them, with a grin on my face, kick them slightly, tell them “That will teach you”, then continue with my driving. 🙂

tidalik-I am not calling you fat 😀 (if you aren’t fat), but, judging from comment, perhaps, just lazy?:-)
It’s lazy people like these two female tourists from Sydney ,who cause unnecessary stress to drivers, colliding with vehicles.

FioBla FioBla 12:59 pm 18 Oct 11

DUB said :

Are you kidding me?how f**king fat and lazy have you got to be, if you can’t walk SEVENTY metres??
And no, rules are the rules, every time I see jaywalkers strolling as if they are on romantic walk in the middle of the road, I want to mow them down, breaking their legs (aiming for knees) with my bumper. 😀

Rules are rules. But it is only against the rules for a pedestrian to cross the road within 20 metres of a marked crossing (except at the crossing itself). Without more information (I’m not familiar with this area as a pedestrian), then I would be hard pressed to say they were doing something illegal (i.e. I don’t know if they were jaywalkers—not a term that appears in the Australian Road Rules).

Rule 234.

Deref Deref 1:12 pm 18 Oct 11

A wide road, excellent visibility, 60kph speed limit…how the fsck do you run into people crossing the road unless you’re trying really hard?

Engleburt_Humperdink Engleburt_Humperdink 1:34 pm 18 Oct 11

poetix said :

Don’t forget that many of the visitors to Floriade are elderly, and that for many of them 70 metres is quite a long walk.

You miss the point. Given that the pedestrian crossing is closer to floriade than where the accident took place, they would have had to walk 70 metres in order to AVOID the pedestrian crossing. Would have been easier and less painful for all concerned if they just did the right thing and used the crossing.

creative_canberran creative_canberran 1:44 pm 18 Oct 11

That controlled crossing doesn’t seem to work for the stupid people.
Driving through on Sunday, a younger jogger ran up to the crossing and stood there. There was no one else waiting to have pressed the button, she just stood there wondering why she couldn’t keep going. Moron.

They really should go under the bridge though, silly choking a major road for pedestrians.

Jethro Jethro 1:59 pm 18 Oct 11

shadow boxer said :

They should fence it off during Floriade and push all the pedestrians around and under the bridge. Better outcome for everyone

Once again I completely agree with Shadow Boxer. This is becoming a worrying habit.

Those lights make no sense. They save people, what, a 30 or 40 metre detour and completely stuff up traffic flow on the bridge.

Engleburt_Humperdink Engleburt_Humperdink 2:24 pm 18 Oct 11

“Pedestrians mown down on Commonwealth Avenue”

This bizarre title seems to imply fault lying with the driver.

A range of scenarios are possible including fault lying with the ‘pedestrians’. What extra information is johnboy privy to which draws him to the conclusion that it was the drivers fault?!

shadow boxer shadow boxer 2:50 pm 18 Oct 11

Jethro said :

shadow boxer said :

They should fence it off during Floriade and push all the pedestrians around and under the bridge. Better outcome for everyone

Once again I completely agree with Shadow Boxer. This is becoming a worrying habit.

Those lights make no sense. They save people, what, a 30 or 40 metre detour and completely stuff up traffic flow on the bridge.

It’s o.k. Jethro, even the stopped clock is right once a day 😉

EvanJames EvanJames 2:55 pm 18 Oct 11

Sgt.Bungers said :

Too many drivers employ the utterly murderous tactic of happily maintaining speed when and lay on the horn when approaching someone who they believe should not be on the road… watching that person scurry out the way… not thinking about what may happen if that person panics and trips over… Only to carry on about how dangerous pedestrians are all the way to the next red traffic light at London Circuit/Parliament House. I urge the idiots who do this to imagine what you would do to the driver who you see maintaining speed towards your children, or a family member, who inevitably may end up on the wrong side of a windscreen for whatever reason.

Ouch, you are channelling me, Sgt Bungers! I often have this rant… Canberra drivers actually, I swear, speed up when they see a person walking on the road that isn’t marked as a crossing. Do they not know that they are actually not allowed to hit people? Regardless of where those people are?

Further, I wonder if they’ve thought ahead to that thump and crunch as they hit the person, the blood spattering, the screaming…

People can trip, fall, not get out of the way quickly enough, fair dinkum it makes me think we’ve had it as a species, watching this stupid, aggressive and yes murderous behaviour.

You shouldn’t need speed limits and signs and whatnot to take responsibility and drive in control, so you can avoid likely and possible eventualities.

grrr. (/rant).

Eppo Eppo 3:09 pm 18 Oct 11

Deref said :

A wide road, excellent visibility, 60kph speed limit…how the fsck do you run into people crossing the road unless you’re trying really hard?

On the flip side, how the feck do you get yourself run over with excellent visibility and a 60km/h speed limit?

Unless anyone is suggesting that the driver sped up or aimed to hit these people, then blame lies squarely with the pedestrians IMO, as it was their stupidity (deciding to walk out onto a road, without paying enough attention) that got them run over.

Jethro Jethro 3:43 pm 18 Oct 11

shadow boxer said :

Jethro said :

shadow boxer said :

They should fence it off during Floriade and push all the pedestrians around and under the bridge. Better outcome for everyone

Once again I completely agree with Shadow Boxer. This is becoming a worrying habit.

Those lights make no sense. They save people, what, a 30 or 40 metre detour and completely stuff up traffic flow on the bridge.

It’s o.k. Jethro, even the stopped clock is right once a day 😉

Twice a day in fact. And that you have been.

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