Petition against changing Canberra Airport flightpaths

pandy i’m not sure what your issue is but *i* know for a fact i do not work at PM&C and my name isn’t actually ‘tori’ either – toriness is my handle. is your real name pandy??? fair enough if it is but i’m pretty sure other handles here aren’t people’s actual names eg randomgit and thumper! you may wish to reconsider your research methods and logic.

i have nothing to do or any vested interests with the airport or the tralee development – i simply live in one of the suburbs where a new flight path is proposed should the existing flight path (over tralee area) be altered, and i don’t appreciate the possible impact it would have on me!

Maybe not, but if the service is there I’ll use it to expose or not, that someone is being underhanded. It is up to che et. al. to remove the facility if they want.

I am sure if someone says something defamatory then the administrators can provide to the relevant authorities the IP address.

I was suprised how easy it is to get an IP address.. but I would never use it for argumentum ad hominem nor for exposing anyone either. Anonymity is one of the beautiful things about internet forums. It allows for free flowing discussion without fear of reprisal (in most cases).

Yeah and I hope I get an apology from tech savvy ant et. al.

Ah, I see the time delay of submitting a comment has got me.

Thumper, the war is lost. Tralee will happen because NSW govco has ignored their own committee looking on to the matter and went ahead and allowed parts of it.

Tim Snow at the airport is trying to scare the horses with his press release/petition. Flight paths will not change so as to share noise sharing the way he has described. I hate the mis-information that he spreads and get frustrated that people still fall for it.

By all means argue for a curfew to be placed on the airport as happens in Sydney, Adelaide and other airports.

Getting an IP off RiotACT is dead simple for any registered user. No hacking or URL spoofing or anything.

Nik, if you don’t know yet, email me and I’ll let you know where the information is accessed.

Note to ED. All IP addresses (except for OP) are displayed becasue that is the way RiotAct is set-up.

[ED, soon to be changed. thats for pointing out the loophole pandy. we’d prefer however you email us at root@the-riotact.com to do so in future]

Don’t you know that?

And I was not attacking the player in this case but responding to jr. As has been shown earlier this year with the poster from Dendy cinemas, sometimes it is good to “out” a poster.

And Tori, I have to assume two things: Your IP address was captured wrong and that the Whois name service was wrong. I doubt it.

And ant you still upset that I posted a picture of you from your website? BTW your IP was

Thanks toriness – I was interested in the petition.

RiotAct knows how it is done.

Pandy enjoys a spot of stalking, Toriness. I’d like to know how he got access to the IP the article was posted from though. RiotAct? Any ideas?

i realise this topic has been discussed previously, i read riot act daily – however the petition has just been created so i think it is in a lot of people’s interests to think about signing it. it’s called people power.

toriness is a she 🙂

and no i do not work there where you accused me of working, pandy. where i work is just my job to pay the bills – nothing to do with my political or personal beliefs!

Did a Whois on tori IP address. Guess what? ***********************[ED – Ntp: Pandy, not sure how you got tori’s IP address but if they don’t want to say who they are affiliated with that is their choice. Feel free to attack the ball, not the player]

And Tori, landing flightpaths will NOT change. Tom Snow is shit scared about getting a curfew.

Oh we discussed this issue last month http://the-riotact.com/?p=4862

This is to thank the ACT for building their new gaol near Jerrabomberra. Welcome to our influence, assholes.

Take all the developers etc out of the equation and you have a simple question:

Is it better to have a dedicated flightpath under which noone lives?

answer – yes.

I bet Sydney wishes they had one. We have one, and we are losing it to short term gain and state rivalry.

I’ve said it before – the only thing Tralee is good for is the speedway!

Good work jr…this post smacks of Airport propaganda to me. Funny one Maelinar – ‘cept you assume anyone who might buy in Tralee is a bogan. What about if you’re not a baby boomer/lucky enough to have gotten in early and you can’t afford to pay 1/2 mil for a half decent house?
It is REALLY hard to pick a side on this issue – a drag down fight between developers, both of whom are principally interested in their own bottom lines.

It’s interesting who works for that airport. Noel McCann used to be the Head Valuer in the ACT. Did the valuations on which rates (and land rent) were based.

The airport doesn’t want noise sharing and flight paths over Canberra, because then they would lose the ability to bring jumbos in from Singapore at 2am.

the lack of a curfew was the biggie in buying the airport. the ability to build a new CBD out there was a nice bonus, apparently, as the national capital mob are in charge of planning out there, not ACTPLA.

If there’s ever a nasty aeroplane incident though, it will be very ugly. Notice Sydney airport aren’t boxing in their runways with office blocks and retail malls.

I wonder if the “Tori” that posted this news article is the same “Tori” that works at Canberra Airport…

http://www.google.com.au/search?q=tori+canberra+airport&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&aq=t&rls=org.mozilla:en-GB

like the airport can comment on planning madness with thousands of office works and those tiny roads (within the airport’s confines).

I’m not sure why the airport is petitioning Canberra residents – the airport isn’t in their electorate nor are we marginal.

Also – if the airport is so steamed about Tralee, why aren’t they doing anything about existing aircraft noise in Campbell? The last comment to the community in Campbell from Noel McCann was that they could “do nothing about it”.

Make up your mind.

Whinging about aircraft noise = whinging nimby. LOL

Deal with it or move, or even more.. get a job! Then you wont be home all day complaining about the noise..

I’m thinking Tralee would be a good place to invest. Get cheap housing while under filght path then get a big increase in capital value when said flightpath gets shared around.

I’ve read everything there is to read Skaboy and I’m still voting against Winnell and his greedy development company.

Geez, Why do people believe the crap that comes out of Snowtown Airport.

The noise sharing argument is crap, just like the added turbulence because of housing myth. I have never experience excessive turbulence while flying into sydney and that means flying over a whole city.

Before you sign the petition, try reading both sides of the story and actually consider the facts, not the fallacy. Then make your decision.

I vote for houses at Tralee.

Just tell them to get phucked. Stupid NSW idiots.

I’d be surprised if they could hear the aircraft noise over the remainder of their bogan activities anyway.

The airport is being mischievous with their ads. No plane can turn left (west) before Mt Majura.

that’s right thumper.

my partner and I only bought our townhouse in one of the areas over which new flightpaths are proposed for 2 years ago, we are certainly not in the financial position to just up and move to escape the noise if it proves unbearable. also a flight path will almost certainly effect the value of our property in a negative way, after we paid a premium to buy in a ‘quiet street in a quiet area’ because we do not like noise – especially not aircraft noise!

if developers want to build under this new NSW development under an existing flight path, then the new owners of those houses will be buying in full knowledge of the environment their house was built in and which they will be living in. if the flight paths are changed, this is a choice that we never had.

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