19 March 2015

Petition to bring back ACT light vehicle registration stickers

| shena

For anyone in the ACT who would prefer to have current registration stickers returned to our vehicles, please sign this petition and share if you believe they are worthwhile.

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shena said :

Grrrr said :

Problem with your “justification” is that the rego sticker (and thus “timeliness”) was clearly of no use in identifying the perpetrator of the crime, only the victim – who would have found out eventually anyway, and could possibly have found out just as quickly by describing car’s colour / make / model / other features.

This SHOULD be about rego reminders, because that’s the stickers’ only really useful feature. I never received my last renewal notice, and would appreciate a better reminder process than a single letter which can get lost / ignored Fortunately, I called to check – the day it expired.

Then there’s “signatories” to your petition who equate safety of a vehicle with a current registration. Another logic fail.

I’m happy with stickers disappearing. I’d appreciate a better reminder process. Email, SMS, phone, more letters, strippergram, a combination of them … One with confirmed delivery would be best.

damn I sooooo didnt realise I hadnt actually spoken to you in the first place, bloodyhell too may trolls, so little time….

” I’d appreciate a better reminder process. Email, SMS, phone, more letters, strippergram, a combination of them … One with confirmed delivery would be best.”
No wonder the CEO of Australia Post is wringing his hands.

Grrrr said :

Problem with your “justification” is that the rego sticker (and thus “timeliness”) was clearly of no use in identifying the perpetrator of the crime, only the victim – who would have found out eventually anyway, and could possibly have found out just as quickly by describing car’s colour / make / model / other features.

This SHOULD be about rego reminders, because that’s the stickers’ only really useful feature. I never received my last renewal notice, and would appreciate a better reminder process than a single letter which can get lost / ignored Fortunately, I called to check – the day it expired.

Then there’s “signatories” to your petition who equate safety of a vehicle with a current registration. Another logic fail.

I’m happy with stickers disappearing. I’d appreciate a better reminder process. Email, SMS, phone, more letters, strippergram, a combination of them … One with confirmed delivery would be best.

damn I sooooo didnt realise I hadnt actually spoken to you in the first place, bloodyhell too may trolls, so little time….

Grrrr said :

Problem with your “justification” is that the rego sticker (and thus “timeliness”) was clearly of no use in identifying the perpetrator of the crime, only the victim – who would have found out eventually anyway, and could possibly have found out just as quickly by describing car’s colour / make / model / other features.

I’m happy with stickers disappearing. I’d appreciate a better reminder process. Email, SMS, phone, more letters, strippergram, a combination of them … One with confirmed delivery would be best.

You can ‘problem’ till the cows come home – I dont really care. I only hope that you are never the victim of such a situation. Your stolen plates in a car with stolen plates, timeliness would not be an issue to you, thats great in your small world. You obviously are not involved in Law Enforcement at any level.
When you degenerate to strippergrams – that tells me all I need to know of your intelligence/mindset and I wish you the best of luck with your happy fulfilled life. Do not expect any more communication from me.

wildturkeycanoe2:28 pm 18 Mar 15

Pork Hunt said :

#8 wtc. Rego is an annual bill in the mail that non payment of is non negotiable. If you do not receive that reminder for ANY reason then you are liable to a huge fine. My power and gas bills are quarterly and if I don’t pay by due date, I am not fined $600-1200 but am sent a gentle reminder. Other bills are due monthly and again, reminders often apply at zero cost above the stated amount in the bill.

Try not paying any of your insurances and then try to make a claim. The costs may well exceed $1200 and possibly hundreds of thousands. Failure to pay your rego will also not affect your credit rating, whereas utilities can certainly make a long lasting impact on your ability to get a loan. I think the OP got off lightly, especially considering if they’d been involved in an accident at the time it would have been quite severe.

shena said :

At the end, given we had observed the suspicious car, one would think timeliness useful for any chance of police apprehension.
Again, this is NOT about rego reminders.

Problem with your “justification” is that the rego sticker (and thus “timeliness”) was clearly of no use in identifying the perpetrator of the crime, only the victim – who would have found out eventually anyway, and could possibly have found out just as quickly by describing car’s colour / make / model / other features.

This SHOULD be about rego reminders, because that’s the stickers’ only really useful feature. I never received my last renewal notice, and would appreciate a better reminder process than a single letter which can get lost / ignored Fortunately, I called to check – the day it expired.

Then there’s “signatories” to your petition who equate safety of a vehicle with a current registration. Another logic fail.

I’m happy with stickers disappearing. I’d appreciate a better reminder process. Email, SMS, phone, more letters, strippergram, a combination of them … One with confirmed delivery would be best.

gazket said :

Labor wouldn’t listen anyway, no labels is all about revenue raising and fining people for forgetting.

No labels has raised the price of rego due to needing the new no fault insurance fund we are pooling in for.

The new no fault insurance fund will pay Doctors and Lawyers . Victims will get a tiny portion .

Do you honestly think the no fault insurance fund is a product of not having rego labels?

Without looking at the merit of the scheme, it is something that more and more jurisdictions are moving to, and it will in time help to remove the ambulance chasing lawyers from the equations, which can only be seen as a good thing.

thatsnotme said :

Ok, so I read the reasoning for your petition, and I’m a little underwhelmed…

So at the end of all of this, all the rego label achieved was letting the car owner know his plates had been stolen before he headed out after work and found it out for himself? Something the make, model, colour and other identifying features could have done.

Why is that your concern after the fact? If your vehicle is insured, then it’s your insurance company who will be dealing with any unregistered drivers. It’s not up to you to check whether the other car involved is insured – report the accident to the police, let your insurance company know, and let them do their jobs – that’s why you pay your premiums after all.

Now if you’re unlucky enough to run into a stolen car with switched plates, do you really think they’re going to be hanging around to exchange details, while you crosscheck their rego label to their plates?

The irony of your petition is that in both instances, RAPID is far more likely to pull these cars off the road well before they’ve got a chance to be involved in anything dodgy, than the rego label system was ever able to.

Buy a sticker, write the rego expiration date on it, and stick it inside your windscreen. Because let’s face it, your petition with 50 signatures isn’t going to change a thing.

You are fully entitled to be underwhelmed.
At the end, given we had observed the suspicious car, one would think timeliness useful for any chance of police apprehension.
Again, this is NOT about rego reminders.
I did not post to debate everyone who disagrees with me, I posted so that anyone who does agree can read the petition, make up their own mind, and sign if they so wish.

Ok, so I read the reasoning for your petition, and I’m a little underwhelmed…

We had a recent instance at our local shopping centre, where we witnessed suspicious activity within the carpark. It appeared as though number plates were being stolen from a parked vehicle. We observed said suspicious vehicle leaving the carpark. We were able to ascertain the actual vehicle registration via the registration sticker as there were no number plates left on the vehicle. We then approached the local supermarket to report the incident and had the registration number announced via PA to attempt to locate the owner. Luckily the vehicle owner was an employee and appeared immediately. We notified the vehicle owner of the number plates of the suspicious vehicle and she then informed the Police.

We were later told by this staff member that the getaway vehicle’s number plates were also stolen.

So at the end of all of this, all the rego label achieved was letting the car owner know his plates had been stolen before he headed out after work and found it out for himself? Something the make, model, colour and other identifying features could have done.

We also question the issue of vehicle accidents, and the ability to correctly identify the current registration status of the vehicles involved, without a registration label. Or a smartphone.

Why is that your concern after the fact? If your vehicle is insured, then it’s your insurance company who will be dealing with any unregistered drivers. It’s not up to you to check whether the other car involved is insured – report the accident to the police, let your insurance company know, and let them do their jobs – that’s why you pay your premiums after all.

Now if you’re unlucky enough to run into a stolen car with switched plates, do you really think they’re going to be hanging around to exchange details, while you crosscheck their rego label to their plates?

The irony of your petition is that in both instances, RAPID is far more likely to pull these cars off the road well before they’ve got a chance to be involved in anything dodgy, than the rego label system was ever able to.

Buy a sticker, write the rego expiration date on it, and stick it inside your windscreen. Because let’s face it, your petition with 50 signatures isn’t going to change a thing.

#8 wtc. Rego is an annual bill in the mail that non payment of is non negotiable. If you do not receive that reminder for ANY reason then you are liable to a huge fine. My power and gas bills are quarterly and if I don’t pay by due date, I am not fined $600-1200 but am sent a gentle reminder. Other bills are due monthly and again, reminders often apply at zero cost above the stated amount in the bill.

shena said :

Roksteddy said :

Already exists. And if you are in the ACT PS (not sure about other areas) it can come directly out of your pay.
So……. you can get text reminders
you can get email reminders
you can get reminders from your calendar
you can pay off your rego with installments
but somehow its less effort to start a petition? Still haven’t worked out the reason behind that. Oh well, at least the petition is to have the stickers reintroduced in Canberra, USA and not Canberra, Australia. 🙂

I am glad that at least you bothered to read that minor error which apparently took many hours to update from my change this afternoon 😉
The petition is not about reminders…. its is about the usefulness of having registration stickers displayed on vehicles.

We understand that they are useful to remind you rego is due, but how on earth do you cope with any other number of bills. what about car insurance? I guess drivers licenses are easy cause they fall on every birthday ending in 0 or 5. FYI I got my drivers license renewal in my email the other day. The system works fine.

Removing the stickers may not have had a visible deduction on your rego fee, but it probably didn’t go up as much. They are a pain in the neck to remove sometimes as well. I’m glad they are gone. I can’t see how you making the government waste time and money of the government because you are stuck in the past and can’t remember when rego is due, in case you miss your rego renewal is good use of resources.

Roksteddy said :

Already exists. And if you are in the ACT PS (not sure about other areas) it can come directly out of your pay.
So……. you can get text reminders
you can get email reminders
you can get reminders from your calendar
you can pay off your rego with installments
but somehow its less effort to start a petition? Still haven’t worked out the reason behind that. Oh well, at least the petition is to have the stickers reintroduced in Canberra, USA and not Canberra, Australia. 🙂

I am glad that at least you bothered to read that minor error which apparently took many hours to update from my change this afternoon 😉
The petition is not about reminders…. its is about the usefulness of having registration stickers displayed on vehicles.

Heavs said :

I don’t really know what the petition is about because you didn’t summarise it here. Why would I click a random link from a first time poster?

I am not a first time poster or commenter, n feel free to not open the link before attempting to share your words of wisdom. I will not contribute to your laziness.

Labor wouldn’t listen anyway, no labels is all about revenue raising and fining people for forgetting.

No labels has raised the price of rego due to needing the new no fault insurance fund we are pooling in for.

The new no fault insurance fund will pay Doctors and Lawyers . Victims will get a tiny portion .

I can read, and I read it. Still don’t agree with any of the reasoning though. If you see something suspicious you call the police instead of going all Nancy Drew on the situation.

wildturkeycanoe said :

If you want to start a petition for anything, how about a direct debit scheme to help people put away $20 a week so that when the rego is due they have already paid for it?

Already exists. And if you are in the ACT PS (not sure about other areas) it can come directly out of your pay.
So……. you can get text reminders
you can get email reminders
you can get reminders from your calendar
you can pay off your rego with installments
but somehow its less effort to start a petition? Still haven’t worked out the reason behind that. Oh well, at least the petition is to have the stickers reintroduced in Canberra, USA and not Canberra, Australia. 🙂

shena said :

If you think the petition is about renewal reminders, think again. Oh sorry, you apparently cannot think nor read.

I don’t really know what the petition is about because you didn’t summarise it here. Why would I click a random link from a first time poster?

I’m happy if you pay for the costs of having the sticker.

Ghettosmurf8712:06 pm 16 Mar 15

shena said :

chewy14 said :

If someone is willing to use stolen plates on their car, what do you think the odds are of them leaving the actual rego sticker on it?

Seems like a huge administrative costs for very little benefit.

I referred to the vehicle that had its plates stolen, which still had its sticker in place.

And did you receive a registration price reduction when the stickers were no longer provided?

And how often would such a situation occur? Often enough to justify re-introducing the re-issuance of rego stickers and the associated administrative cost? I highly doubt it

Passing the savings on to users defeats the purpose of the savings in the first place….

chewy14 said :

If someone is willing to use stolen plates on their car, what do you think the odds are of them leaving the actual rego sticker on it?

Seems like a huge administrative costs for very little benefit.

I referred to the vehicle that had its plates stolen, which still had its sticker in place.

And did you receive a registration price reduction when the stickers were no longer provided?

shena said :

If you think the petition is about renewal reminders, think again. Oh sorry, you apparently cannot think nor read.

If someone is willing to use stolen plates on their car, what do you think the odds are of them leaving the actual rego sticker on it?

Seems like a huge administrative costs for very little benefit.

If you think the petition is about renewal reminders, think again. Oh sorry, you apparently cannot think nor read.

wildturkeycanoe said :

Pork Hunt said :

The reminder in the mail is one of the issues. I live at 2/25 x street and 100 m as the crow flies is 2/25 y street. I regularly get their mail and deliver it to their address promptly. I therefore have to assume they get my mail from time to time but aren’t particularly prompt in swinging by to put it in my box.
The hearts and minds at ACT rego might be in the right place but will Auspost pay your fine should you not receive the reminder?

How on earth do you get by without paying your electricity, water, rates, internet connection, mobile phone or any other bill if reminder notices aren’t plastered on your front door? Does your health insurance constantly get cancelled or indeed your car’s insurance, because there isn’t a sticker reminding you every day you jump in? Your logic with this petition could apply to any number of bills for which failure to pay could end up costing big dollars, so why let it end with rego?
If you want to start a petition for anything, how about a direct debit scheme to help people put away $20 a week so that when the rego is due they have already paid for it? That’s better value than a view-blocking sticker.

Have you ever tried to undo a direct debit?

wildturkeycanoe5:35 am 16 Mar 15

Pork Hunt said :

The reminder in the mail is one of the issues. I live at 2/25 x street and 100 m as the crow flies is 2/25 y street. I regularly get their mail and deliver it to their address promptly. I therefore have to assume they get my mail from time to time but aren’t particularly prompt in swinging by to put it in my box.
The hearts and minds at ACT rego might be in the right place but will Auspost pay your fine should you not receive the reminder?

How on earth do you get by without paying your electricity, water, rates, internet connection, mobile phone or any other bill if reminder notices aren’t plastered on your front door? Does your health insurance constantly get cancelled or indeed your car’s insurance, because there isn’t a sticker reminding you every day you jump in? Your logic with this petition could apply to any number of bills for which failure to pay could end up costing big dollars, so why let it end with rego?
If you want to start a petition for anything, how about a direct debit scheme to help people put away $20 a week so that when the rego is due they have already paid for it? That’s better value than a view-blocking sticker.

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Just put it in your calendar
And/or sign up for reminders via email
If they reintroduce stickers i will be signing the petition to abolish them

The reminder in the mail is one of the issues. I live at 2/25 x street and 100 m as the crow flies is 2/25 y street. I regularly get their mail and deliver it to their address promptly. I therefore have to assume they get my mail from time to time but aren’t particularly prompt in swinging by to put it in my box.
The hearts and minds at ACT rego might be in the right place but will Auspost pay your fine should you not receive the reminder?

wildturkeycanoe6:39 am 15 Mar 15

Do not add to the cost of registration by asking them to print thousands of stickers for people who simply forget when registration is due. The reminder notice in the mail should be enough to tell you to pay up.
If that isn’t sufficient, get some adhesive backed paper and write the renewal date on there, slap it next to the “next service due” sticker,between the National Parks season pass and the disabled parking permit, adjacent the E-tag and try to avoid covering it with the fluffy dice and Virgin Mary bobble head.

then I doubt that you even bothered reading my reasoning for the petition

neanderthalsis4:30 pm 14 Mar 15

Why? Was life somehow better when we had rego stickers? Did you like getting something tangible for you many hundreds of dollars? I can’t see any benefit to bringing them back apart from having a visual reminder of when your rego is due without having to open the glove box.

Holden Caulfield12:18 pm 13 Mar 15

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