11 June 2012

Pierces creek losers found

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ACT Policing along with ACT Fire and Rescue and ACT Ambulance, safely located two men after their car rolled down an embankment within Pierces Creek Forest yesterday, (Sunday 11 June).

About 10.00pm, the driver of a white Subaru Impreza carrying a single passenger was driving along Murrays Creek road when it misjudged a slight bend in the dirt road, losing control of the vehicle and rolling down an embankment for 40 metres.

The two occupants were able to free themselves from the vehicle, however confused and disorientated, they walked away from the vehicle in the opposite direction to the road and up the adjacent hill through thick blackberry bushes.

After attempting to find their way out of the bushes for some time, they realised they were lost and contacted Police via a mobile phone.

A number of Police, Fire, and Ambulance units were dispatched to conduct a search of the area with urgency, considering their potential injuries and the low temperatures expected.

During the search, ACT Policing operations kept in contact with the men asking if they could hear the sirens of the rescue party getting closer or further away, and relaying that information to the troops on the ground.

Due to the combined efforts and knowledge of the area by Tuggeranong Patrol members, ACT Fire and Rescue and ACT Ambulance, the two males were located approximately 50 minutes later.

They were treated by ACT Ambulance and conveyed to the Canberra Hospital with minor injuries, exposure and bruises and abrasions.

[Courtesy ACT Policing]

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Simmo said :

1337Hax0r said :

I can’t find Murray’s Creek Road on any of my maps, and suspect it might be Murphy’s Creek Road. Anyway, most of those bush trails have no cats eye posts, so no night guidance what so ever. It is very easy to come off them, even at a slow pace.
I’ve driven from Angle Crossing to Naas road via Sunshine Crossing and vise versa quite a lot. I’ve come across cars that have come off that road and ended up in the trees, unable to back up on to the road. There are a few markings on that road but with hairpin corners,it is not fun at night.So are the people who came off that road a loser? I don’t think so.
How would you like it if you had been in a car accident at night, been injured and then had some inconsiderate people call you a loser? I don’t think you’d appreciate it. There is something wrong with the mentality of a lot of the regulars on this forum.

First and foremost I think they are losers.

Since the police say it was near Pierces Ck Forest I’d assume they are talking about Murray’s Corner.

If, as you say “it is not fun at night” then what were they doing out there?

I don’t think you should be driving at night if you think, “it is very easy to come off them, even at a slow pace.”

If you have a car accident at night because you are hooning around then that is simply a consequence of your actions. Suck it up and be thankful you didn’t injure/kill anyone else.

I wholeheartedly agree with you about the mentality of a lot of the regulars on this forum.

Has anyone questioned why these people were driving in such a remote area at 10.00pm on a Sunday night? As I said earlier, there is something very sus about this report.

carnardly said :

don’t they mean disoriented?

No such word as disorientated.

Yes, actually there is, and has been for some time.

1337Hax0r said :

I can’t find Murray’s Creek Road on any of my maps, and suspect it might be Murphy’s Creek Road. Anyway, most of those bush trails have no cats eye posts, so no night guidance what so ever. It is very easy to come off them, even at a slow pace.
I’ve driven from Angle Crossing to Naas road via Sunshine Crossing and vise versa quite a lot. I’ve come across cars that have come off that road and ended up in the trees, unable to back up on to the road. There are a few markings on that road but with hairpin corners,it is not fun at night.So are the people who came off that road a loser? I don’t think so.
How would you like it if you had been in a car accident at night, been injured and then had some inconsiderate people call you a loser? I don’t think you’d appreciate it. There is something wrong with the mentality of a lot of the regulars on this forum.

First and foremost I think they are losers.

Since the police say it was near Pierces Ck Forest I’d assume they are talking about Murray’s Corner.

If, as you say “it is not fun at night” then what were they doing out there?

I don’t think you should be driving at night if you think, “it is very easy to come off them, even at a slow pace.”

If you have a car accident at night because you are hooning around then that is simply a consequence of your actions. Suck it up and be thankful you didn’t injure/kill anyone else.

I wholeheartedly agree with you about the mentality of a lot of the regulars on this forum.

1337Hax0r said :

There are a few markings on that road but with hairpin corners,it is not fun at night.So are the people who came off that road a loser?

“…misjudged a *slight* bend in the dirt road, *losing* control of the vehicle and rolling down an embankment for 40 metres.”

No hairpins. Just losers.

1337Hax0r said :

I can’t find Murray’s Creek Road on any of my maps, and suspect it might be Murphy’s Creek Road. Anyway, most of those bush trails have no cats eye posts, so no night guidance what so ever. It is very easy to come off them, even at a slow pace.
I’ve driven from Angle Crossing to Naas road via Sunshine Crossing and vise versa quite a lot. I’ve come across cars that have come off that road and ended up in the trees, unable to back up on to the road. There are a few markings on that road but with hairpin corners,it is not fun at night.So are the people who came off that road a loser? I don’t think so.
How would you like it if you had been in a car accident at night, been injured and then had some inconsiderate people call you a loser? I don’t think you’d appreciate it. There is something wrong with the mentality of a lot of the regulars on this forum.

It was Murray’s Corner possibly – there used to be a picnic area there about 30 years ago which was closed by the ACT Government. It has all become overgrown by blackberry bush since. I saw a car in the blackberries while I was returning from Tidbinbilla about 4.00pm that day (not 10.00pm). There were two people standing around the rear of the car so I assumed there were no problems. Obviously this was an earlier incident and possibly not in the same area. There was another car which had rolled nearby with some sort of a police sticker affixed on it. The problem is that people don’t know how to drive on the roads around the Cotter. There is something sus about this report I think.

I can’t find Murray’s Creek Road on any of my maps, and suspect it might be Murphy’s Creek Road. Anyway, most of those bush trails have no cats eye posts, so no night guidance what so ever. It is very easy to come off them, even at a slow pace.
I’ve driven from Angle Crossing to Naas road via Sunshine Crossing and vise versa quite a lot. I’ve come across cars that have come off that road and ended up in the trees, unable to back up on to the road. There are a few markings on that road but with hairpin corners,it is not fun at night.So are the people who came off that road a loser? I don’t think so.
How would you like it if you had been in a car accident at night, been injured and then had some inconsiderate people call you a loser? I don’t think you’d appreciate it. There is something wrong with the mentality of a lot of the regulars on this forum.

Experience can never be beaten…rolled a rally car down an embankment in my early twenties at a lower speed, learned from it before I had kids. Through life, when these topics arise, I notice that many people tend to judge people who have had accidents yet tend to think that if their driving record is spotless law wise or they have a non-accident driving background this is interpreted to themselves as being an ‘excellent or responsible driver’ regardless of age and experience.

There are different types of driving experience, varying reasons that cause accidents from which we learn. My rally car broke an axel which caused the accident.

wildturkeycanoe4:19 pm 12 Jun 12

Has anyone here tried being thrown down an embankment, being spun through 360 degrees several times and then tried to find their way back to the road in pitch black? There was no moon and with possibly a slight concussion it’d be near impossible to see anything, let alone a trail of destruction.
Even with the assistance of a mobile phone for light, it’s not that easy to navigate the bush in the dark. I’ve been in a night time rollover and it isn’t as simple as just getting out and trudging off for help.
Thankfully they got reception and were found, else it could have been a gloomier headline today.
As for how it happened, when and where, sounds like typical young car enthusiast behavior.

Missed their cue. Thought the Rally of Canberra had been cancelled and no longer run here anymore.. (more the pity…) Still, maybe they can re-enact it for some newsworthy noble current affairs show perhaps? then whine a bit for a handout to cover loss of vehicle in a rally… oh that’s right, no rally.. tsk tsk…

1337Hax0r said :

Also, calling some one a loser because they have a car accident is not cool.

Ok. We’ll call everyone else who has managed to negotiate that slight bend in the road safely ‘winners’.

1337Hax0r said :

Also, calling some one a loser because they have a car accident is not cool.

They were called losers because they lost something – twice. They lost control of the car, and they lost their way back to the road. I suspect one of them may also have lost control of their bowels/bladder too.

The accident was a result of one of these losers losing something. This demonstrates that one of them was already a loser before the accident. When they both lost their way after the accident, they both became losers. Anyway you break it down, they are losers. The accident is inconsequential.

1337Hax0r said :

Also, calling some one a loser because they have a car accident is not cool.

I agree that it probably isn’t tactful to label these two as losers, given the social stigma attached to the word. However these people were losers in the sense that the driver lost control of the car (and both people involved lost their bearings!).

Kind of like when a specacularly tragic event is correctly described by someone as “awesome”, yet people have a fit because they only know the the current colloquial meaning of the word as something good.

qbninthecity2:30 pm 12 Jun 12

1337Hax0r said :

Also, calling some one a loser because they have a car accident is not cool.

+1 completely insensitive topic title

1337Hax0r said :

Also, calling some one a loser because they have a car accident is not cool.

Subaru Impreza … misjudged a slight bend in the dirt road

BWAAAA hahahahahahahahahaha

1337Hax0r said :

Also, calling some one a loser because they have a car accident is not cool.

Well, if rallying ’round the pine forests at night is a game (and it is – a fun one) then these two “lost” at it. That makes them losers (although it does sound mean like that).

I would have thought that after an accident, one would follow the trail of destruction from the car to the road. I suspect that during the accident they got a few bumps on the head and that some how the car ended up facing the direction it came,so logically they decided to head ‘back’ to where they thought it came.
Yeah, the write up wasn’t so great on this one.
Also, calling some one a loser because they have a car accident is not cool.

Dreadful writing from the Plods, as usual. Might have led to the radio reportage this morning, that the car had misjudged the bend. Um no the car did nothing of the sort.

Those slight bends can be tricky for some people.

johnboy said :

…and relaying that information to the troops on the ground..

Was the army involved?

don’t they mean disoriented? No such word as disorientated.

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