Pix of the Erindale Dominos Blaggers

@ Violet my comment wasn’t aimed at all drug users just the ones who commit violent crimes to support their habit, if people want to get high and they use their own money to do so who cares good on them its none of my business.

Violet I think I get where your coming from, this world we live in should be paradise but us humans seem to find ways to ruin it with things like greed, racism, violence, corruption etc in my opinion and I know my views may seem extreme but when your home gets invaded with insects you call the exterminator. My views have been formed over life experiences and thats all I can go on my life I’d say would be far different to yours however I dare say less scum in the streets would improve not only mine but yours and the greater community, wouldn’t it be great if we could go back to the days of not having to lock your doors at night? Im a supporter of a fair trial and the presumption of innocence but once guilt is established beyond a reasonable doubt violent criminals need to be exterminated or at the very least locked up for life and have their organs on standby if someone in the public needs them lol

Violet68 said :

Again, a myopic view of a much bigger social problem. Just throw all the “human excrement” in jail or better still give them the death penalty or just exterminate them. Then you’ll be able to order your pizza in peace.

And No I don’t struggle to live in society. I struggle with my disgust in narrowminded biggots.

I find you’re strong views on it being society’s fault that people can’t keep their hands to themselves amusing, I find it comical that if someone doesn’t share your view that they must be a bigot.

While I understand that you think that every thing wrong in the world that we see it today is either; a) a mental health issue, b) society’s fault for punishing criminals or c) society’s fault for punishing criminals who have a mental illness. I don’t agree with your assertions, because you have not argued your case very well.

I can honestly say that I agree with you on some points, mental illness is not very well managed in Canberra, it is getting better, but it is not where it should be. How do we deal with the problem? That is not something that can be solved on a forum such as this.

I can also say that I definitely, definitely disagree with you on a number of your points. You are trying to say that it is alright for people to walk into a business, a business that is employing our teenagers and giving them a sense of responsibility and allowing them to contribute to the society, with kitchen knives and threaten these person’s for a few dollars, because Domino’s sell’s unhealthy food?

Like me, you have no idea why these people committed the crime. There is a worrying trend, specially on the south side where people are committing these crimes for the fun of it, this is not due to a mental illness or some underlying problem with society, the people committing the crimes are bad, not mad. They do it for fun, they do it for the power, they do it because they can.

Is that society’s fault? How else can society punish these people, yes I did say punish, think about the mental stress they have caused the young workers at the place, is it now alright for them to go out and rape, kill or rob someone?

Rehabilitation can not work without consequences, you do it once, you get a suspended sentence and attend cognitive self change courses etc. You do it twice, that is not society’s fault, you need to be locked up and punished for your actions, there is nothing else to it.

I do agree with you Buzz and appreciate your comments. However, it was not the disagreement with my point of view that caused me to use the word bigot. It was the use of the words “death penalty” and the assumption that the robbery was about drug use…..and the usual wish they’d give themselves a “lethal dose” comment.

I don’t wish the young staff at Domino’s any trauma either. Of course they should be able to work safely without fear. My comments were about the broader issues that lead to crime in the first place. If there is such a division in the community that creates an “us and them” mentality, then it will only continue to escalate. Yes, there should be deterrents and punishments in place for offenders. However, this is a short term solution for many, so we also need to look at the underlying issues that perpetuate the disconnection of people from our community in the first place – and you are right, this is definitely not the forum to create that type of action. Sometimes the comments on here remind me of Dr Seuss and his Sneetches.

in all seriousness, i love you. and am grateful that someone with a broader perspective on society is willing and able to post such articulate thoughts.

punishment is not always a solution when the causes arent even known, investigated or understood.

Large kitchen knives are not machetes, people! Machetes are useless for cutting up steak. Similarly, you don’t want to find yourself trekking through dense jungle with only a large kitchen knife.

Err.. not that it matters though. As you were.

bigfeet said :

They are lower than dog turds in the spectrum of things.

At least after a while dog turds lose their smell…

Violet68 said :

“The predominant usage of the word bigot in modern English refers to persons hostile to those of differing sex, race, ethnicity, religion or spirituality, nationality, language, inter-regional prejudice, gender and sexual orientation, homelessness, various medical disorders particularly behavioral disorders and addictive disorders”.

I note this definition does not include being predjudiced against people who make a conscious decision to pick up machetes, leave home, drive to a business, threaten to kill innocent people with those machetes and then rob that business.

Nor should it.

I hold anyone who behaves like that in absolute contempt. There is no excuse whatsoever.

They are lower than dog turds in the spectrum of things.

obamabinladen said :

Don’t worry about a mass pizza chain making money out of people’s poor food “habits”. Wake up to yourself and have a look at where the community is really being attacked. Hope you eat yourself a whole gutful of domino’s pizza topped with “fk knows”…….and give yourself your own “death penalty”!!! Oh….and if you think the young workers at Domino’s aren’t being ROBBED already via their wages, then YOU are a waste of oxygen.

Violet did you use to work at Dominos by any chance? Have you ever had a knife held to your throat and had someone demand your cash? Dominos employs thousands of young people australia wide it may not pay the best but its not like you need a degree to work their, and the comment about the nutrirional value is foolish, you call me a biggot but here you are saying that Dominos are the criminals for their unhealthy menu and the low pay seriously wake up violet and smell some roses!!!

See my reply to Buzz above.

I didn’t say Dominos are criminals, although if you spoke to a Naturopath or Personal Trainer, they might support that statement. I’m saying that there are contributors to inequality. Low pay for young people is one of those inequalities. How do you rent a property and eat if you can only pick up a low paying job?

The fact that you can pick up a domino’s pizza for $5 when things like lettuce, banana’s and wholefoods are so expensive also contributes to the poor health of people on low incomes.

The fact that you said bring back the death penalty over a pizza store robbery and wished lethal doses on all drug users suggests that you would prefer the extermination of a particular group of people. “The predominant usage of the word bigot in modern English refers to persons hostile to those of differing sex, race, ethnicity, religion or spirituality, nationality, language, inter-regional prejudice, gender and sexual orientation, homelessness, various medical disorders particularly behavioral disorders and addictive disorders”.

You ask me to wake up and smell the roses. You assume that I am attacking a pizza chain and saying that the robbery was an OK thing to do. I ask you to think a little broader on this incident.

Don’t worry about a mass pizza chain making money out of people’s poor food “habits”. Wake up to yourself and have a look at where the community is really being attacked. Hope you eat yourself a whole gutful of domino’s pizza topped with “fk knows”…….and give yourself your own “death penalty”!!! Oh….and if you think the young workers at Domino’s aren’t being ROBBED already via their wages, then YOU are a waste of oxygen.

Violet did you use to work at Dominos by any chance? Have you ever had a knife held to your throat and had someone demand your cash? Dominos employs thousands of young people australia wide it may not pay the best but its not like you need a degree to work their, and the comment about the nutrirional value is foolish, you call me a biggot but here you are saying that Dominos are the criminals for their unhealthy menu and the low pay seriously wake up violet and smell some roses!!!

Again, a myopic view of a much bigger social problem. Just throw all the “human excrement” in jail or better still give them the death penalty or just exterminate them. Then you’ll be able to order your pizza in peace.

And No I don’t struggle to live in society. I struggle with my disgust in narrowminded biggots.

I find you’re strong views on it being society’s fault that people can’t keep their hands to themselves amusing, I find it comical that if someone doesn’t share your view that they must be a bigot.

While I understand that you think that every thing wrong in the world that we see it today is either; a) a mental health issue, b) society’s fault for punishing criminals or c) society’s fault for punishing criminals who have a mental illness. I don’t agree with your assertions, because you have not argued your case very well.

I can honestly say that I agree with you on some points, mental illness is not very well managed in Canberra, it is getting better, but it is not where it should be. How do we deal with the problem? That is not something that can be solved on a forum such as this.

I can also say that I definitely, definitely disagree with you on a number of your points. You are trying to say that it is alright for people to walk into a business, a business that is employing our teenagers and giving them a sense of responsibility and allowing them to contribute to the society, with kitchen knives and threaten these person’s for a few dollars, because Domino’s sell’s unhealthy food?

Like me, you have no idea why these people committed the crime. There is a worrying trend, specially on the south side where people are committing these crimes for the fun of it, this is not due to a mental illness or some underlying problem with society, the people committing the crimes are bad, not mad. They do it for fun, they do it for the power, they do it because they can.

Is that society’s fault? How else can society punish these people, yes I did say punish, think about the mental stress they have caused the young workers at the place, is it now alright for them to go out and rape, kill or rob someone?

Rehabilitation can not work without consequences, you do it once, you get a suspended sentence and attend cognitive self change courses etc. You do it twice, that is not society’s fault, you need to be locked up and punished for your actions, there is nothing else to it.

I do agree with you Buzz and appreciate your comments. However, it was not the disagreement with my point of view that caused me to use the word bigot. It was the use of the words “death penalty” and the assumption that the robbery was about drug use…..and the usual wish they’d give themselves a “lethal dose” comment.

I don’t wish the young staff at Domino’s any trauma either. Of course they should be able to work safely without fear. My comments were about the broader issues that lead to crime in the first place. If there is such a division in the community that creates an “us and them” mentality, then it will only continue to escalate. Yes, there should be deterrents and punishments in place for offenders. However, this is a short term solution for many, so we also need to look at the underlying issues that perpetuate the disconnection of people from our community in the first place – and you are right, this is definitely not the forum to create that type of action. Sometimes the comments on here remind me of Dr Seuss and his Sneetches.

Violet68 said :

And No I don’t struggle to live in society. I struggle with my disgust in narrowminded biggots.

Two guys walk into a business armed with machetes, threaten and terrorise the staff and patrons and you immediately blame the business!

If I didn’t think you were serious it would just be laughable.

Unfortunately you are serious…so I repeat (as a statement not a question this time);

You really struggle being part of a society don’t you.