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Police guarding airport owners’ profits?

By Sideshowmatt123 31 January 2011 24

I noticed at the airport recently that two bicycle-mounted Australian Federal Police officers are stationed for long periods of time on the footpath, some distance along from the arrivals exit. They appear to be occupied in preventing cars from pulling in to pick up arriving passengers.

My question is whether it is appropriate for taxpayer-funded police officers (any estimates of the per diem cost of this dubious public service, including on-costs?) to be deployed in this fashion, forcing people to pay to park?

It seems like overkill, and a function that, insofar as it is necessary*, should be paid for by the airport owners, who collect the resulting carpark revenue. Surely a pair of private security guards would be sufficient to keep the traffic moving?

* a friend recounted that he drove to the footpath to collect his partner, who was dying of cancer and hardly able to breathe standing up. Despite my friend explaining his partner’s condition, the officer on duty moved him on with the threat of a fine.


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p1 9:32 am 01 Feb 11

deye said :

bigfeet said :

The Canberra rules have nothing to do with security and everything to do with money.

Or it could be that they just haven’t finished building everything yet and that when they do you will be able to drop off and pick up.

Maybe, but that assumes they will one day stop building more…

deye 9:18 am 01 Feb 11

bigfeet said :

The Canberra rules have nothing to do with security and everything to do with money.

Or it could be that they just haven’t finished building everything yet and that when they do you will be able to drop off and pick up.

toriness 8:25 am 01 Feb 11

p1 said :

Ahhh, it’s for security? I hope no one ever comes up with the idea of just blowing up themselves and the car while driving past….

i swear i submitted a constructive, thoughtful – maybe not positive – comment yesterday which didn’t appear. hoping it was my computer/internet connection rather than being moderated.

the security argument doesn’t wash with me when drop off is allowed at canberra airport (unless that has changed now?!), but not pick up. both involve a car stopping for less than a minute and person/luggage being loaded or unloaded. how is it a security risk to pick someone off, but dropping off is ok?

Special G 8:20 am 01 Feb 11

You should write a letter to Mr Snow about that. Tell us how it goes.

karmacarrier 7:01 am 01 Feb 11

Muttsybignuts said :

karmacarrier said :

I think that the underlying reason is one of security.
But it’s curious that they only seem to be there during daylight hours Monday to Friday.
Maybe terrorists don’t get overtime penalty rates.

No, they are there while ever planes are flying in and out. Just like they are at Parliament house, the Lodge, Foreign Affairs and any other place deemed protection worthy.

None in sight at 6.30 this morning.
Terminal full of departing passengers.
But no arrivals yet – so no-one trying to pick-up and avoid the short term parking impost.
Same security implications.
More curiouser.

bigfeet 6:52 am 01 Feb 11

Pandy said :

Funny thing is:

http://www.melbourneairport.com.au/To-From-the-Airport/Airport-Parking/Passenger-Drop-Off.html

Canberra is “sphecial” maybe?

Brisbane, Sydney, Adelaide, Rockhampton and Perth all have kerbside ‘drop-off’ and ‘pick up’ areas in front of the terminal. They are then only Aussie airports I have been to recently so can’t speak about the others.

I have also recently been to New Delhi, Mumbai, Madrid and Muscat airports all of which are at much greater risk of terrorism than Snowtown and they also have similar provisions.

The Canberra rules have nothing to do with security and everything to do with money.

Pandy 11:22 pm 31 Jan 11
Deref 7:04 pm 31 Jan 11

Time for the revolution.

The airport is public infrastructure. Time it was nationalised and returned to the public for the public benefit.

buzz819 5:17 pm 31 Jan 11

luther_bendross said :

I agree with OP, this seems a waste of AFP resources when road laws go blatantly disregarded all over town.

One thing you obviously need to be told. It is the AFP that provide security to Airports, but it comes out of the AFP National Budget. It has nothing to do with ACT Policing. A majority of the workers at the Airport are still currently Protective Services, these guys can’t do anything about the road rules, so get that out of your head.

amarooresident3 5:07 pm 31 Jan 11

georgesgenitals said :

I suspect they use real cops rather than security guards because of the number of people who when told to move would simply say “jam it”.

Large number of politicians, judges and other notables who use the airport might also have something to do with it.

luther_bendross 4:56 pm 31 Jan 11

I agree with OP, this seems a waste of AFP resources when road laws go blatantly disregarded all over town. However the issue that pisses me off there is the lack of a pick-up zone provided by the airport. For the benefit of others, here’s a few ideas I’ve used:

1. Around Brindabella Park there’s a few 1P areas.
2. Pick-up your mates in the departure loop up top

Until yesterday I was content to just drive through the “Authorised Vehicles Only” area, but now there’s a orange traffic stick thingy there.

Anyone else got any nice parking spots?

Muttsybignuts 4:24 pm 31 Jan 11

karmacarrier said :

I think that the underlying reason is one of security.
But it’s curious that they only seem to be there during daylight hours Monday to Friday.
Maybe terrorists don’t get overtime penalty rates.

No, they are there while ever planes are flying in and out. Just like they are at Parliament house, the Lodge, Foreign Affairs and any other place deemed protection worthy.

karmacarrier 3:36 pm 31 Jan 11

I think that the underlying reason is one of security.
But it’s curious that they only seem to be there during daylight hours Monday to Friday.
Maybe terrorists don’t get overtime penalty rates.

georgesgenitals 3:23 pm 31 Jan 11

I suspect they use real cops rather than security guards because of the number of people who when told to move would simply say “jam it”.

Captain RAAF 3:08 pm 31 Jan 11

Can you be fined if your car breaks down in what was once the drop-off area? Park car, turn off engine, get out, lift bonnet, scratch side of head, shake fist at engine, all the while passenger is getting out of car and grabbing luggage from the boot, give the wife a kiss as she heads off. Easy.

Once the plods have informed you that they will organise a tow truck to get rid of your car you “give it one more go ay’ and Brrrm, she starts and you depart, grinning like an idiot.

m_ratt 1:18 pm 31 Jan 11

The multistory carpark provides enough time for one to drive in, go upstairs and drive over to the lift lobby, pick up a waiting recent arrival and immediately exit without cost.

In effect, the multistory carpark is the pickup area and is free of charge. Expect to pay if you intend to arrive before you need to, in which case you shouldn’t have attempted to use kerbside pickup anyway.

Sgt.Bungers 12:22 pm 31 Jan 11

It is interesting to note that in this “post 9/11 world” I have not come across any other country that restricts picking up passengers in private vehicles from the airport, despite extensive travel in 2004, 2008 and 2009. Including New Yorks JFK, and LA’s LAX… sure at these particular airports, no parking restrictions apply and are heavily enforced by police, however picking up and dropping off is not a problem, provided a motor car does not sit in a no parking zone for too long.

Canberra’s no pick up restriction is a nuicance and a joke. Given this “requirement”, airport parking should be free for the first half hour.

Erg0 11:43 am 31 Jan 11

I’d have thought that the AFP would be charging the airport for its officers’ time. Anyone know how that works?

Chop71 11:17 am 31 Jan 11

niftydog said :

I had no issues picking up Mrs Nifty who was on crutches after explaining the situation to the nearby AFP officers.

Is she a bitch?

Savagestar 11:09 am 31 Jan 11

I would also like to point out that these people picking up are stopping in the lane of traffic on a roundabout and also on a one lane traffic area. Now it doesn’t take a half a brain to work out that you may actually be blocking traffic!, but then again obviously you dont care as long as you are able to pick up and do what you want!.

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