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Police Operation

Madam Cholet 17 November 2009 67

On my way to work today – going to the City via Woden – I encountered some kind of police operation. I think it was on Athlon Drive and according to 666 had traffic backed up to Drakeford Drive. Does anyone know what this was for? I purposely went this way as the traffic going from Erindale up to the Gowrie roundabout was chockers as well. They seemed to be clearing things away by the time I got there – two flash police cars and one lane completely blocked off. I figured it must have been important to disrupt traffic at that time in the morning. Just curious to find out.


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Tooks 11:18 am 05 Dec 09

benett said :

Could there be a more retarded place to do their ‘RAPID’ ‘revenue quick’ raising crap? I like getting stuck on the Tuggeranong Parkway at 5:15pm on a weekday for 1 hour, whilst the ACT police (or do we really have to call them the AFP) do ‘RAPID’ checks. Nothing is RAPID about sitting on the parkway for 1 hour waiting to have your number-plate checked.

Yes, a quiet street in the middle of the night would be a more “retarded” place to do it. Geez, delays on the parkway during peak hour. What a disaster.

Tooks 11:13 am 05 Dec 09

Yes, goody for me indeed; it feels good not to be a whinger. I don’t know where you got your 8 out of 1500 hit rate, but you are wrong.

The 6 or so cars (exaggerated, no doubt) are traffic operations cars specifically assigned to RAPID duties. The other traffic op vehicles do normal patrols. Members from general duties have also been transferred to boost numbers.

Seriously, if this is the biggest issue in your life, then things are pretty good for you. It’s amazing how easily people get worked up. Try driving home in Sydney during peak hour.

Once deadshits start registering their cars, stop driving while unlicenced/suspended/disqualified etc, then these annoying, inconvenient traffic campaigns will end.

Anna Key 7:51 am 05 Dec 09

Tooks said :

Anna Key said :

To everyone stuck by these operations, it will only be a real issue when they decide to do it on Gunghalin Dve. When its in Tuggers, be grateful the cops are making a handful of crims walk home. So what if you have waited 3 months+ for the specialist appointment which you have now missed, so what if your kids arrived late for exams because the bus spent 40 mins going nowhere. Thank god that dodgy magna is off the road. After all, it MIGHT have run into you

Can I call a waaaambulance for you? Make a complaint to the AFP if you’re that worked up about it. If enough people like yourself make an issue of it, then perhaps they’ll re-think the way they organise these things.

Look, if people are really getting delayed by 40+ mins by these kind of operations regularly, then I think it’s excessive. But I’ve never been delayed by more than a few minutes when going through, even on major arterials during busy times. Maybe I’m just lucky.

Goody for you. Surely the best spot to get a high hit rate would be on the way to the coast on a Friday before a long weekend. Just don’t see how a hit rate of 8 out of 1500 (from memory) is making Canberra a significantly safer place, and whether the success rate would be just as high if the 6 or so police cars were conducting normal patrols.

fgzk 7:39 am 05 Dec 09

Yes I may have. The patrol car was there followed by a plain white sedan with a camera housing mounted on the of the passenger door window. Small round cylinder with what looked like a circle of LEDs, around what looked like a lens. It probably was something else.

westyonline 10:59 pm 04 Dec 09

Tooks said :

I think you’re probably confusing a normal patrol car with the RAPID team. Patrols down there are common.

Im sure they are….we all remember The Blue Oyster Bar….maybe they should arrest all the sicko’s down at kambah pool,so i can finally go for a fish without vomiting!

westyonline 10:53 pm 04 Dec 09

Buzz2600 said :

They were trying to stop all the illegals coming out of Tuggers valley …. its called Border Protection ;o)

desperate times…somebody must have left the gate open down boganville way,all the kambah karny’s are loose on the streets again!

benett 9:54 pm 04 Dec 09

Could there be a more retarded place to do their ‘RAPID’ ‘revenue quick’ raising crap? I like getting stuck on the Tuggeranong Parkway at 5:15pm on a weekday for 1 hour, whilst the ACT police (or do we really have to call them the AFP) do ‘RAPID’ checks. Nothing is RAPID about sitting on the parkway for 1 hour waiting to have your number-plate checked.

Tooks 8:57 pm 04 Dec 09

I think you’re probably confusing a normal patrol car with the RAPID team. Patrols down there are common.

fgzk 12:35 pm 04 Dec 09

Tooks “just simply stating that RAPID doesn’t only target people in unregistered cars and that their are other benefits to it. “

Yes you may have a point Tooks. I was wondering why the police would be scanning the Kambah Pools car park in the middle of the day? That got me to thinking about where all the data ends up. Is it shared between agencies? In the future could it be used to target non criminal activities?

Tooks 1:06 pm 03 Dec 09

By the way, I put in ‘their’ instead of ‘there’ just to test you all……maybe.

Tooks 1:04 pm 03 Dec 09

Ello Vera said :

You seem to be more threatened by the possibility of burglary or car crashes than the real probabilities warrant. That all comes down to perception of risk and is not worth arguing about. I agree about breath tests: there have been precious few of those in the last 5-10 years. I would much rather see the resources put back into this than the current fetish.

Nope, you’re way off the mark. I’m not threatened by the possibility of burglary or crashes; just simply stating that RAPID doesn’t only target people in unregistered cars and that their are other benefits to it.

I agree there should be a way of running it that doesn’t involve excessive delays to hundreds of people. As I’ve said, I’ve never been delayed for more than a few minutes.

A pet hate of mine is people who don’t maintain cars, drive, drunk, unlicenced, unregistered etc etc, so maybe I’m a bit more tolerant than other people when it comes to this sort of thing.

Tooks 12:48 pm 03 Dec 09

Anna Key said :

To everyone stuck by these operations, it will only be a real issue when they decide to do it on Gunghalin Dve. When its in Tuggers, be grateful the cops are making a handful of crims walk home. So what if you have waited 3 months+ for the specialist appointment which you have now missed, so what if your kids arrived late for exams because the bus spent 40 mins going nowhere. Thank god that dodgy magna is off the road. After all, it MIGHT have run into you

Can I call a waaaambulance for you? Make a complaint to the AFP if you’re that worked up about it. If enough people like yourself make an issue of it, then perhaps they’ll re-think the way they organise these things.

Look, if people are really getting delayed by 40+ mins by these kind of operations regularly, then I think it’s excessive. But I’ve never been delayed by more than a few minutes when going through, even on major arterials during busy times. Maybe I’m just lucky.

busgirl 9:32 pm 02 Dec 09

Tooks said :

busgirl said :

I got caught up in that Police Operation today as well…definitely tested the patience…not really an experience I need on my way to a much-earned yoga class…SERENITY NOW!!!

I hope you yelled it out like Frank Costanza, otherwise it doesn’t work 🙂

Is there any other way to ask for serenity now?? 😛

Anna Key 9:03 pm 02 Dec 09

To everyone stuck by these operations, it will only be a real issue when they decide to do it on Gunghalin Dve. When its in Tuggers, be grateful the cops are making a handful of crims walk home. So what if you have waited 3 months+ for the specialist appointment which you have now missed, so what if your kids arrived late for exams because the bus spent 40 mins going nowhere. Thank god that dodgy magna is off the road. After all, it MIGHT have run into you

Ello Vera 6:47 pm 02 Dec 09

I never said I’d been pulled over: that’d imply I was guilty of some transgression. No, I am one of the recidivist do-the-right-thingers who they are not looking for.

The first two times were on Sulwood and they were what you call minor delays and, as I said, I was initially sanguine about them. I thought they were, on balance, fair enough. The other two times were not minor delays, were on major roads at peak periods and in my opinion were over the top. I spoke to someone else about yesterday’s and she told me that she saw a number of near misses when people suddenly came upon the traffic snarl.

You seem to be more threatened by the possibility of burglary or car crashes than the real probabilities warrant. That all comes down to perception of risk and is not worth arguing about. I agree about breath tests: there have been precious few of those in the last 5-10 years. I would much rather see the resources put back into this than the current fetish.

TP 3000 6:19 pm 02 Dec 09

p1 said :

I’ve been scanned by the rapid system a couple of times over the last few years, but both of those times didn’t require me to slow down at all. I just drive past a car with a camera thingy, then up the road a bit there were some cops, but they were only waving over the occasional car. I am not sure why they needed to cause a traffic jam like the other day? Perhaps they were RBTing as well?

On the Parkway yesterday people were held up as those of us that turn left onto Sulwood Drive lost our slip lane & quite a few slowed down in case they were going to be flagged in. The only strange thing I noticed was for that whole time we only came to a complete stop for a few seconds at a time. But the traffic light sequence at the Sulwood Dr lights lasts for longer then that. Could someone explain that?

p1 6:03 pm 02 Dec 09

Ello Vera said :

I was initially sanguine about the new police toy but now having been scanned four times in a couple of weeks, I am getting mightily sick of it.

I’ve been scanned by the rapid system a couple of times over the last few years, but both of those times didn’t require me to slow down at all. I just drive past a car with a camera thingy, then up the road a bit there were some cops, but they were only waving over the occasional car. I am not sure why they needed to cause a traffic jam like the other day? Perhaps they were RBTing as well?

Tooks 4:09 pm 02 Dec 09

Firstly, it isn’t a new toy; it’s been used in the ACT for at least 2 years. You’ve been pulled over 4 times in a couple of weeks? So what? I’ve been scanned by RAPID as well and I believe the minor delay is worth the results of catching people with unregistered and uninsured cars, dangerously unroadworthy cars, people breaching bail (especially recidivist property offenders possibly on their way to burgle houses), crooks with warrants etc.

If you were stopped 4 times in 2 weeks for breath tests, would you be just as critical. You sound like one of these “I want cops to do their jobs, as long as it doesn’t inconvenience me” types.

Ello Vera 1:34 pm 02 Dec 09

I was initially sanguine about the new police toy but now having been scanned four times in a couple of weeks, I am getting mightily sick of it.

The amount of accumulated inconvenience to such a vast number of people over time vastly outweighs the benefits of catching a few naughties. There is a limit to the amount of intrusion to lawfully-going-about-your-own-business that should be tolerated for such a minor return and I am somewhat amazed by the air of tolerance in this thread. I doubt whether the acceptance would be as great in other places.

We put up with the odd traffic jam where it has been caused by an accident; that’s part of the deal. But to get this sort of imposed traffic jam so often just so that a few malefactors can be fined, is way out of proportion.

Yesterday I noticed that the waving-you-on cop was scrupulously avoiding any eye contact.

Tooks 11:03 am 02 Dec 09

busgirl said :

I got caught up in that Police Operation today as well…definitely tested the patience…not really an experience I need on my way to a much-earned yoga class…SERENITY NOW!!!

I hope you yelled it out like Frank Costanza, otherwise it doesn’t work 🙂

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