28 August 2011

Police pursuit smashes into bystanders

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This in from Gooterz at 3:34am this morning:

Friend of mine was the victim of a Police pursuit gone wrong tonight, ended up having a smash at the northern interection near the vue construction site after another car being chased by police ran the red light.

The car is a right off but the two people in it are ok. One of them helped to chase down the other driver as they fled the scene.

ACT Policing are promising a statement later this morning once they finalise some details.

UPDATE: Here’s the statement:

ACT Policing has apprehended a 19-year-old man from Bonython and a 19-year-old man from NSW after a collision in Tuggeranong last night (Friday, August 26).

Around 8.20pm a marked police vehicle from the Traffic team was conducting a mobile patrol in Greenway. Police observed a dark coloured Holden Commodore exiting Cowlishaw Street without the headlights on.

Police conducted a traffic stop on Athllon Drive however when the officer exited the vehicle and approached the car the offenders accelerated away.

After police returned to their vehicle they attempted to pursue the car however, when the vehicle turned into Anketell Street officers prepared to terminate the pursuit which lasted 40 seconds.

As the vehicle travelled down Anketell Street it passed a Tuggeranong Patrol and officers witnessed the Commodore travelling at high speed with no headlights on. The offending vehicle ran a red light at the intersection of Anketell Street and Cowlishaw Street and collided with a red hatch back.

The offenders got out of the car and attempted to flee the scene. Two men and a woman were apprehended by officers from Tuggeranong Police Station. No one in either vehicle was injured in the incident.

Both the men claimed the other was driving the vehicle and both tested positive for alcohol at the scene. They were taken to Tuggeranong Police Station and breath analysis showed both men were over the limit with each recording a mid-range reading of level 2.

Investigations as to who was driving the vehicle are continuing. The driver will be summonsed to court at a later date.

[Photo courtesy Gooterz]

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Special G said :

Headline should read – ‘Drunk wankers run from Police and crash into innocent bystanders’.

Put the responsibility on the drivers of the car. Although apparently both may have been driving.

+1 If these morons were not fleeing from police and had an accident, there would be calls for more police to catch these idiots.

If both thought the other was driving, it isn’t hard to see why they crashed…

Glad they are ok… Looks nasty!

blowers said :

I must have missed something. Monash isnt mentioned anywhere here. Only Bonythong and Queanbegone. Monash is just the innocent bystander living next door to Wanniassa and Isabella Plains.

My apology, don’t know why Monash got into my head..However, where did you get Qbn from? NSW-could be Yass, could be any town, perhaps, he was visiting his bum-chum here, from Sydney?:)

“Friend of mine was the victim of a Police pursuit gone wrong tonight…”

When are people going to stop blaming the police for the actions of criminals? Police state the pursuit lasted 40 seconds … I don’t care if it was 40 seconds or 40 hours.

These criminals carelessly and recklessly endangered the lives of others by drink driving, speeding, ignoring traffic lights, dangerous driving etc, etc…. I’m glad that noone was hurt this time but if these criminals had of gotten away with it, they’d do it again and again . I have no doubt. Until someone really did get hurt or killed.

They chose to do this! Not the police or anyone else. Do the crime, do the time.

Friend of mine was the victim of a drunk driver, who was driving illegally, and who was evading the efforts of the police to stop them.

Fixed that for you.

DUB said :

This confirms my thought -Monash/Bonython-(Isn’t it whole Greenway area, anyway?)-both feral areas, they should be disinfected, using thermobaric weapon, such as vacuum bomb.;-)

I must have missed something. Monash isnt mentioned anywhere here. Only Bonythong and Queanbegone. Monash is just the innocent bystander living next door to Wanniassa and Isabella Plains.

This confirms my thought -Monash/Bonython-(Isn’t it whole Greenway area, anyway?)-both feral areas, they should be disinfected, using thermobaric weapon, such as vacuum bomb.;-)

Mr Gillespie11:13 pm 28 Aug 11

Did these people become the “victim of a police pursuit” because they didn’t want to pull over to police who wanted to find out why he didn’t have his headlights on? Or did they panic because they would get done for drink-driving?

If only the little shi*s had some money – They would have done the owner of the red Mazda a favour. Unfortunately, they will get off with a stern talking to, due to their rough childhood, and the poor Mazda driver will have to use their own insurance.

Is that a Mazda 121 bubble car? I do believe it has the dis-honour of being amongst the most dangerous to be in when crashing.

Jono said :

A “right” off?

Yeah, that one put me write off too 😉

Both subjects implicated the other under questioning, hoping to get away with it?
Lessons in Game Theory, courtesy of ACT Policing…

Also, the Level 2 BAC referred to above is greater than 0.05g but less than 0.08g.

screaming banshee said :

Is it unreasonable to expect that if neither will admit to driving the vehicle they should both be charged with the offence.

totally agree.

I dont think there’s too much to be read into about ‘preparing’. There’s set criteria, there’s decisions that have to be made, its not like they just suddently stop in an instant. Hopefully your mate’s ok, but lets not get on the coppers back because some deadshits ran from a stop, doesn’t get more suss than that.

screaming banshee said :

Is it unreasonable to expect that if neither will admit to driving the vehicle they should both be charged with the offence.

+1
But probably too much like “common sense” to be heeded..

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A “right” off?

gooterz said :

For me its weird that they used the word prepared. Your either chasing someone or you aren’t, saying your ‘prepared’ to call it off could otherwise apply as an excuse for every police chase?

Shouldnt they always be prepared for anything when in a dangerious pursuit?

Try reading it in its context. When you do that it is being used in the same as ‘preparing’. It’s not just a matter of going ‘oh well thats done, lights off lets cruise back to the station’

Headline should read – ‘Drunk wankers run from Police and crash into innocent bystanders’.

Put the responsibility on the drivers of the car. Although apparently both may have been driving.

gooterz said :

For me its weird that they used the word prepared. Your either chasing someone or you aren’t, saying your ‘prepared’ to call it off could otherwise apply as an excuse for every police chase?

Shouldnt they always be prepared for anything when in a dangerious pursuit?

for me its weird that people should care about whether they use the word “prepared” in a press statement or not. these aren’t nobel prize winning novelists, cutting a little slack might be in order. and do you really think people should be “prepared” for anything when in a dangerous pursuit (i think it’s weird you made up the word dangerious)? Does that include rampaging giraffes and UFO attacks? these are police officers, not superman.

For me its weird that they used the word prepared. Your either chasing someone or you aren’t, saying your ‘prepared’ to call it off could otherwise apply as an excuse for every police chase?

Shouldnt they always be prepared for anything when in a dangerious pursuit?

Get these morons off our streets. Lock them both up for a long time.

What great blokes. The true spirit of Australian on display there. “He was drinving”. “No no..he was driving”

The average IQ of the Australian population seems to be dropping day by day.

GardeningGirl9:47 pm 27 Aug 11

screaming banshee said :

Is it unreasonable to expect that if neither will admit to driving the vehicle they should both be charged with the offence.

+1

I believe Ben Elton wrote a book about it, set in a Big Brother house.

screaming banshee said :

Is it unreasonable to expect that if neither will admit to driving the vehicle they should both be charged with the offence.

Unfortunately, yes. It’s a Schrodinger’s cat meets Australian criminal law…. I guess they could fingerprint the steering wheel…

homeone said :

“officers prepared to terminate the pursuit which lasted 40 seconds.”

What ‘preparation’ is required ?? Turn off the flashing lights ????

If you care to read the pursuit guidelines there’s quite a bit more to it than that. First there’s all the considerations of when and why to terminate. If a decision is made to terminate then:

Return to speed limit, stop following vehicle, turn off lights & sirens, pull over, notify comms pursuit has ended and why, leave vehicle running to cool down, inspection under bonnet, inspect bodywork, wheels and tyres etc.

screaming banshee8:54 pm 27 Aug 11

Is it unreasonable to expect that if neither will admit to driving the vehicle they should both be charged with the offence.

“officers prepared to terminate the pursuit which lasted 40 seconds.”

What ‘preparation’ is required ?? Turn off the flashing lights ????

Gooterz – im glad to hear your friends are ok

Police statement now added.

ConanOfCooma1:20 pm 27 Aug 11

If he totalled my vehicle, I’d be helping the oinks run him down, too!

Glad the innocent bystanders are OK, and good on them for helping catch the perp. Hope they gave him a clogging before the coppers caught up.

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