30 September 2014

Police seek witnesses from city brawl

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ACT Policing is seeking the public’s assistance in identifying offenders involved in a large disturbance involving up to 20 people in Civic in the early hours of Sunday, September 21.

About 2.40am on that date, a disturbance broke out inside the Monkey Bar nightclub on Bunda Street, with reports that chairs and bottles had been thrown.

On arrival, ACT Policing officers observed a number of men and women of African appearance attempting to incite physical conflict with a large group of men of Pacific Islander/Maori appearance.

The crowd was dispersed and escorted by police and security guards from the premises. This was followed by another disturbance at the entrance to the Monkey Bar involving one of the men escorted from the premises after the earlier incident. The man was taken into custody by police and lodged at the ACT Watch House, and investigations into both incidents are ongoing.

Sergeant of the Regional Targeting Team, Jim Edwards, said that ACT Policing’s Regional Targeting Team and licensees are working cooperatively to provide a safe environment in the ACT.

“In violent incidents such as these, police and licensees work together to remove violent and aggressive patrons from licensed premises. Staff members have the right to feel safe in their workplace and other patrons should also be able to go out and not have their safety compromised,” said Sergeant Edwards.

The Regional Targeting Team works throughout the ACT and specifically around high-risk venues targeting alcohol-fuelled violence.

“Incidents such as these can wreck everyone’s night and we want to identify these people to reduce the risk of them ruining your night,” Sergeant Edwards said.

Police are seeking to identify the offenders and any witnesses to the violent incidents both inside and outside the nightclub in the early hours of Sunday, September 21. Anyone who has information which may assist the investigation is urged to contact Crime Stoppers on 1800 333 000, or via act.crimestoppers.com.au. Information can be provided anonymously.

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(ACT Policing Media Release)

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Smithers said :

I don’t speak for anyone. And I wasn’t. I just directed you to the fact that the current system, its direction and its ever evolving form is what we have because we the nation, not just your suburb, have not ever used it as a deciding issue in any election. Not from lack of MP’s trying to the approach of “get tough on crime”. If it was unacceptable to a majority of Australians, that would change. The last place I would have thought to see that school of thinking would be in the ACT. It has the lowest levels of crime at present than seen in many years. It is a safe and clean city indeed.

You are going to tell me that you have not heard about the ‘one punch’ legislation introduced in Qld, NSW and Vic because of a nationwide problem with drug and alcohol fuelled violence? I’m pretty sure the entire east coast of Australia is outside of my suburb, so I have provided just one example for you (from outside of my suburb) to show that it is indeed more than a ‘getting tough on crime’ problem:

http://www.nsw.gov.au/onepunch

Smithers said :

Im glad that you cleared up the “alcohol fuelled violence” issue for me. Stating the phenomenon and then restating the exact same thing as if it was so unclear. I didn’t see anything in the footage to say that alcohol was the cause. But I will take your word for it. I don’t drink. The outcome, was fair, is what I meant. As in he was given what he deserved. Your opinion might be different there. But that doesn’t affect things. Its just your own view. And you are entitled to hold on to it, albeit pointlessly. Cheers. xx

I’m glad I was able to help clear that up for you. And for the record, I don’t drink either. Love and sloppy kisses, A. xx

Antagonist said :

Smithers said :

Antagonist said :

If this is the judicial response to 11 punches and a kick in the face, why are the public going to bother helping?

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2014-09-30/man-avoids-jail-time-after-vicious-attack-in-canberra/5780060?section=act

The Judicial response isn’t there to inspire or compel the public to act in ways minority groups would like them to. Most of us feel that the outcome was what he deserved. Most also note that these are two different incidents, one which has not yet bought any persons charged with anything before the courts. Perhaps its best the public don’t “help” until its asked for.

Alcohol fuelled violence is alcohol fuelled violence. There is no difference. As for your assertion that ‘most of us’ feel that the outcome was deserved … boll@cks. Who the hell is ‘most of us’ anyway? You certainly don’t speak for me.

I don’t speak for anyone. And I wasn’t. I just directed you to the fact that the current system, its direction and its ever evolving form is what we have because we the nation, not just your suburb, have not ever used it as a deciding issue in any election. Not from lack of MP’s trying to the approach of “get tough on crime”. If it was unacceptable to a majority of Australians, that would change. The last place I would have thought to see that school of thinking would be in the ACT. It has the lowest levels of crime at present than seen in many years. It is a safe and clean city indeed. Im glad that you cleared up the “alcohol fuelled violence” issue for me. Stating the phenomenon and then restating the exact same thing as if it was so unclear. I didn’t see anything in the footage to say that alcohol was the cause. But I will take your word for it. I don’t drink. The outcome, was fair, is what I meant. As in he was given what he deserved. Your opinion might be different there. But that doesn’t affect things. Its just your own view. And you are entitled to hold on to it, albeit pointlessly. Cheers. xx

Smithers said :

Antagonist said :

If this is the judicial response to 11 punches and a kick in the face, why are the public going to bother helping?

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2014-09-30/man-avoids-jail-time-after-vicious-attack-in-canberra/5780060?section=act

Most of us feel that the outcome was what he deserved. .

Are you having a laugh?

That guy should have been gaoled for 5 years for such a vicious physical assault.

Smithers said :

Antagonist said :

If this is the judicial response to 11 punches and a kick in the face, why are the public going to bother helping?

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2014-09-30/man-avoids-jail-time-after-vicious-attack-in-canberra/5780060?section=act

The Judicial response isn’t there to inspire or compel the public to act in ways minority groups would like them to. Most of us feel that the outcome was what he deserved. Most also note that these are two different incidents, one which has not yet bought any persons charged with anything before the courts. Perhaps its best the public don’t “help” until its asked for.

Alcohol fuelled violence is alcohol fuelled violence. There is no difference. As for your assertion that ‘most of us’ feel that the outcome was deserved … boll@cks. Who the hell is ‘most of us’ anyway? You certainly don’t speak for me.

VYBerlinaV8_is_back10:20 am 01 Oct 14

Antagonist said :

If this is the judicial response to 11 punches and a kick in the face, why are the public going to bother helping?

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2014-09-30/man-avoids-jail-time-after-vicious-attack-in-canberra/5780060?section=act

This is why people are happy to punch on with impunity. 80 hours of community service? Pffft.

Antagonist said :

If this is the judicial response to 11 punches and a kick in the face, why are the public going to bother helping?

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2014-09-30/man-avoids-jail-time-after-vicious-attack-in-canberra/5780060?section=act

The Judicial response isn’t there to inspire or compel the public to act in ways minority groups would like them to. Most of us feel that the outcome was what he deserved. Most also note that these are two different incidents, one which has not yet bought any persons charged with anything before the courts. Perhaps its best the public don’t “help” until its asked for.

What about the CCTV?

If this is the judicial response to 11 punches and a kick in the face, why are the public going to bother helping?

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2014-09-30/man-avoids-jail-time-after-vicious-attack-in-canberra/5780060?section=act

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