19 July 2012

Police targeting roadwork speeding

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ACT Policing will continue to target dangerous driving around 40kmh work zones after Traffic Operations issued 78 Traffic Infringement Notices (TINs) on Barry Drive yesterday.

Officer in Charge of Traffic Operations Sergeant Rod Anderson said it was important that drivers practised safe driving habits around work zones.

“Speeding through work zones is extremely dangerous and risks the lives of those workers in the area,” Sergeant Anderson said.

“Police would encourage drivers to be mindful of the reduced speed limits through work zones and the increase of traffic flow in and around those areas.”

“It is particularly concerning that 78 TINs that were issued on Barry Drive yesterday despite the presence of highly visible marked police vehicles.”

“Police will continue to enforce speed limits in work zones to ensure the safety of all workers.”

[Courtesy ACT Policing]

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Tooks said :

EvanJames said :

I wonder if the plod also did something to the people tailgating those who were obeying the limit? The quote from the cops suggests not, they just did the easy thing, speed, which is measured with a machine.

As mentioned many times before, there is no offence of ‘tailgating’. The related offence (IIRC is ‘follow too closely to stop safely’) isn’t as easy to prove as you obviously think it is.

Why not write into ACT police about it if you’re so concerned, instead of coming up with the same tired, limp-wristed bitching day after day.

Heh. And that’s why Canberra is full of tailgating idiots that cause those accidents that in turn cause those epic traffic snarls during rush hour. The local plod aren’t going to do a damn thing about it. It’s in the too hard basket, like everything else that can’t be measured by a machine. So have at it, people. If it can’t be measured by a speed device or a breath analysis device, it’s as good as legal.

Pathetic, isn’t it? And the plods wonder why we deride them.

Valleyboy said :

Roadworkers and their employers earn no public goodwill with this kind of lazy and discourteous behaviour. A good example is to be found on the “up” side of Morshead Drive west of the Duntroon turnoff, where the “roadworks” consist of a line of those plastic protective barriers along a stretch of the left-side kerb, and a reduction in the speed limit from 80 km/h to 60 km/h. It’s apparently in support of work on a cycling track that passes alongside the road on that stretch. These “roadworks” have been in place for weeks now extending into months, yet there’s no sign of any work having been completed apart from setting up the usual neon orange gear and reducing the speed limit, and I’ve seen nobody working there either on my way to work or on my way home.

I think you’ll find you’re not seeing anyone because it’s NOT for roadworks. The barriers are there to provide a marginally safer option for cyclists that are being directed to use that dirt verge. You’re unlikely to see the repairs being made to the real cycling track to begin with, along with the fact it’s not expected to be completed until February 2013.

Valleyboy said :

Mysteryman said :

I do have an issue with the “set up all the equipment and signpost 40kmh but don’t commence any work for a month or so” system that seems to be the norm in the ACT. Even the simplest of jobs take a very long time to complete. It seems that Cord Civil get all the contracts – are the spread too thin?

Roadworkers and their employers earn no public goodwill with this kind of lazy and discourteous behaviour. A good example is to be found on the “up” side of Morshead Drive west of the Duntroon turnoff, where the “roadworks” consist of a line of those plastic protective barriers along a stretch of the left-side kerb, and a reduction in the speed limit from 80 km/h to 60 km/h. It’s apparently in support of work on a cycling track that passes alongside the road on that stretch. These “roadworks” have been in place for weeks now extending into months, yet there’s no sign of any work having been completed apart from setting up the usual neon orange gear and reducing the speed limit, and I’ve seen nobody working there either on my way to work or on my way home.

Everyone’s driving at 70-80 km/h through the “roadworks”. I can’t recall when I last saw someone observing the posted 60 km/h limit. The public know when they’re being taken for fools.

I drove to Wagga a couple of weekends ago. It was Saturday morning, and on the way out of Canberra there were the usual speed-restricted but apparently abandoned “roadworks” sites.

Once I was on the road to Wagga, I noticed that every single roadworks site had been neatly packed up for the weekend, with all the signs tidily covered up except for one sign at each set of roadworks just to warn drivers to take care.

Like just about everything else trade-related in Canberra, it is done by lazy, shoddy and unprofessional malingerers compared with their colleagues in other parts of the country.

Tooks said :

EvanJames said :

I wonder if the plod also did something to the people tailgating those who were obeying the limit? The quote from the cops suggests not, they just did the easy thing, speed, which is measured with a machine.

As mentioned many times before, there is no offence of ‘tailgating’. The related offence (IIRC is ‘follow too closely to stop safely’) isn’t as easy to prove as you obviously think it is.

Why not write into ACT police about it if you’re so concerned, instead of coming up with the same tired, limp-wristed bitching day after day.

I recall following an elderly gentleman who drove over the roundabout next to the art gallery whilst turning right and then proceeded to drive along King Edward Terrace on the wrong side of the road for about 500 metres at approx 70 kph almost colliding head on with a vehicle travelling in the opposite direction.I rang the cops and they didn’t want to know about it unless i came in gave a statement and then was prepared to go to court to have him prosecuted.If i was prepared to sacrifice my time to undertake this requirement i would be in court on a weekly basis highlighting dangerous driving from the clueless idiots on the road.Now of course it would be much too sensible to have high visibility policing wouldn’t it??

Mysteryman said :

I do have an issue with the “set up all the equipment and signpost 40kmh but don’t commence any work for a month or so” system that seems to be the norm in the ACT. Even the simplest of jobs take a very long time to complete. It seems that Cord Civil get all the contracts – are the spread too thin?

Roadworkers and their employers earn no public goodwill with this kind of lazy and discourteous behaviour. A good example is to be found on the “up” side of Morshead Drive west of the Duntroon turnoff, where the “roadworks” consist of a line of those plastic protective barriers along a stretch of the left-side kerb, and a reduction in the speed limit from 80 km/h to 60 km/h. It’s apparently in support of work on a cycling track that passes alongside the road on that stretch. These “roadworks” have been in place for weeks now extending into months, yet there’s no sign of any work having been completed apart from setting up the usual neon orange gear and reducing the speed limit, and I’ve seen nobody working there either on my way to work or on my way home.

Everyone’s driving at 70-80 km/h through the “roadworks”. I can’t recall when I last saw someone observing the posted 60 km/h limit. The public know when they’re being taken for fools.

I see that at long last the roadworks ot the corner of Florey Drive and Southern Cross Drive are now finally displaying 40km/h 24 hours a day. If ever there was a roadworks that needed a permament lowering this was it.

It is also pleasing to see they are not messing around and are getting the job done. Unlike the (simple) widening of the intersections around the bus terminus in Kippax itself.

EvanJames said :

I wonder if the plod also did something to the people tailgating those who were obeying the limit? The quote from the cops suggests not, they just did the easy thing, speed, which is measured with a machine.

As mentioned many times before, there is no offence of ‘tailgating’. The related offence (IIRC is ‘follow too closely to stop safely’) isn’t as easy to prove as you obviously think it is.

Why not write into ACT police about it if you’re so concerned, instead of coming up with the same tired, limp-wristed bitching day after day.

screaming banshee6:40 am 20 Jul 12

What you see and what a camera sees will always differ, especially when affected by glare

Mr Gillespie2:30 am 20 Jul 12

johnboy said :

Well you ARE an ignorant sod.

All I did was ask a question on the topic, sir.

Where were the signals and signs in those videos? (especially the last one)

enrique said :

Here’s a few reasons why slowing down at roadworks is a good thing…

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6b75FkK4eqo

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w-PQdADVp8I

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=74aLLRtMAag

The police were constantly pulling over cars on Barry Drive again today. I was walking by and it looked like the officer was clocking cars speed before the 40 signs (rather, at the “40 ahead” signs). In balance, the speed was been measured from a police car with it’s lights flashing and I was baffled as to why people didn’t see it and slow down.

PrinceOfAles10:36 pm 19 Jul 12

goggles13 said :

no sympathy for the 78 tossers who got done….tough luck!! two places not to speed – roadworks and school zones.

how would they cope in SA where the speed limits for roadworks is 25kmh?

The likes of Mr Gilliespie would be catatonic.

no sympathy for the 78 tossers who got done….tough luck!! two places not to speed – roadworks and school zones.

how would they cope in SA where the speed limits for roadworks is 25kmh?

But it is OK to speed through neighbourhoods late at night. Especially in a white commondore. I am waiting for the “targetting neighbourhood speeding month”. By the way, I fully support making road workers safe.

Mysteryman said :

“Speeding through work zones is extremely dangerous and risks the lives of those workers in the area,” Sergeant Anderson said.

Very true… during the 4 hours a day when there is somebody working in the area.

I drive at the correct speed through roadworks all the time. I think roadwork speed limits are a sensible idea. I do have an issue with the “set up all the equipment and signpost 40kmh but don’t commence any work for a month or so” system that seems to be the norm in the ACT. Even the simplest of jobs take a very long time to complete. It seems that Cord Civil get all the contracts – are the spread too thin?

I also drive at the speed limit through roadworks and agree with the rest of your comment. Driving from west Belco to the airport today it seemed that about 75% of the trip was roadworks. Apart from the roadworks on Florey Drive where there was plenty of action, I think I saw a total of 3 or 4 workers. Most ‘roadworks’ were completely empty. It does seem like many jobs are unnecessarily stretched out, and I can see why people ignore signs for roadworks that don’t really exist.

VYBerlinaV8_is_back said :

poetix said :

Mr Gillespie said :

Call me a troll but 40km/h is ridiculously slow for straight stretches of road that are normally twice that limit, no?

No. Not if someone might be killed. I think it’s sensible to put people’s safety ahead of a couple of minutes extra in the car.

Why might someone be killed? Are you concerned about the road workers here?

Yes. I’m concerned about them being hit at any speed, but particularly when people refuse to obey the 40kmph limit, in which case there is more likely to be a fatality. The usual limit on the road is not the issue at all, given the risk involved.

Sorry I wasn’t clear.

In Wisconsin (I think) they had signs which stated that I’d you hit a road worker, it was a compulsory jail term, regardless of injury. I bet that slowed even the selfish people down.

Mr Gillespie said :

Call me a troll but 40km/h is ridiculously slow for straight stretches of road that are normally twice that limit, no?

Troll. But your wrong anyway the roadworks in question are in what would normally be a 60km/h zone, so don’t see an issue with 40km/h.

Mr Gillespie4:10 pm 19 Jul 12

c_c said :

Yes, road workers have you ignorant sod…..

I beg your pardon??

I ask a simple question and you jump down my throat with YOU IGNORANT SOD.

Well you ARE an ignorant sod.

“Speeding through work zones is extremely dangerous and risks the lives of those workers in the area,” Sergeant Anderson said.

Very true… during the 4 hours a day when there is somebody working in the area.

I drive at the correct speed through roadworks all the time. I think roadwork speed limits are a sensible idea. I do have an issue with the “set up all the equipment and signpost 40kmh but don’t commence any work for a month or so” system that seems to be the norm in the ACT. Even the simplest of jobs take a very long time to complete. It seems that Cord Civil get all the contracts – are the spread too thin?

Comic_and_Gamer_Nerd3:58 pm 19 Jul 12

Excellent news. Sick of seeing bell ends speeding through work zones.

Mr Gillespie said :

Just as a quick sidepoint, has a roadworker ever actually been killed at a worksite due to cars speeding?

Yes. It’s a very dangerous workplace. Much more dangerous than shining a seat all day.

Mr Gillespie said :

Just as a quick sidepoint, has a roadworker ever actually been killed at a worksite due to cars speeding?

Yes, road workers have you ignorant sod.

http://www.couriermail.com.au/news/queensland/road-worker-killed-by-passing-car-at-night-roadworks-in-cairns/story-e6freoof-1226071423632

Mr Gillespie3:35 pm 19 Jul 12

Just as a quick sidepoint, has a roadworker ever actually been killed at a worksite due to cars speeding?

VYBerlinaV8_is_back3:34 pm 19 Jul 12

poetix said :

Mr Gillespie said :

Call me a troll but 40km/h is ridiculously slow for straight stretches of road that are normally twice that limit, no?

No. Not if someone might be killed. I think it’s sensible to put people’s safety ahead of a couple of minutes extra in the car.

Why might someone be killed? Are you concerned about the road workers here?

Mr Gillespie said :

Call me a troll but 40km/h is ridiculously slow for straight stretches of road that are normally twice that limit, no?

No. Not if someone might be killed. I think it’s sensible to put people’s safety ahead of a couple of minutes extra in the car.

Road workers should get their act together too though.

On Drakeford Dr through Kambah for two days, the workers had covered their own road work speed signs up, and left the normal speed signs covered. They were all covered! Not the first time I’d seen i around Canberra.

So what was the speed limit?

Legally, 50km/h if no other speed is shown.

Mr Gillespie3:14 pm 19 Jul 12

Call me a troll but 40km/h is ridiculously slow for straight stretches of road that are normally twice that limit, no?

I hope the police also target roadwork speed signs as well. There is some dismal signage around town at the moment (including examples of signs for roadworks where none exist, and plenty of half-covered signs where it is unclear if they should be obeyed). Of particular note, coming off Tuggeranong Parkway onto Parkes Way the speed changes no less than 5 times in the distance of about 400m. At one point there is about 10m between an increase in speed for end of one lot of roadworks and a decrease in speed for commencement of new roadworks.

About time the police did something about how slow road works get completed in this city.

I wonder if the plod also did something to the people tailgating those who were obeying the limit? The quote from the cops suggests not, they just did the easy thing, speed, which is measured with a machine.

colourful sydney racing identity1:40 pm 19 Jul 12

JC said :

Good to see. This is the roadworks I had raised an issue with a few weeks back with most people ignoring the limit and harranging those that make an effort to drive at or below the limit.

+ eleventy billion.

Good to see. This is the roadworks I had raised an issue with a few weeks back with most people ignoring the limit and harranging those that make an effort to drive at or below the limit.

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