7 May 2009

Police Wrap - 7 May

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1. Ainslie newsagent knocked over by dirty Charnies:

    ACT Policing is seeking witnesses to an aggravated burglary which occurred at the Ainslie Newsagency Thursday May 7, 2009

    Around 2.55am a silver Hyundai Excel stopped in front of the shop located on Edgar Street. The vehicle’s lights were shone into the store front for about a minute before a man exited the car and took up a position near the entrance. The driver then reversed up to the store and nudged the plate glass window twice before it shattered.

    Both men then entered the shop and attempted to open the cigarette cabinets but were unsuccessful. Nothing of value was taken before the men left in the vehicle towards the city along Cox Street.

    Both men used balaclavas to cover their faces and wore gloves, with one wearing a fluorescent vest.

    AFP Forensic Services attended the scene.

    It is believed the vehicle used in the raid was stolen from Charnwood shops between 6pm and 1am last night.

    Police are appealing for any witnesses who may have seen suspicious persons or activity around the Ainslie shops in the early hours of this morning to contact Crime Stoppers

2. Naughty North Lyneham Massage:

    ACT Policing’s Territory Investigation Group is investigating an alleged sexual assault of a 19-year-old female victim in North Lyneham on Tuesday (May 5).

    Police will allege the 44-year-old male offender had sexual intercourse without consent with the victim as he gave her a massage.

    The victim attended Belconnen Station a short time later and reported the incident to police.

    The alleged offender attended Belconnen Police Station last night and police arrested the Ngunnawal man around 9.45pm (May 6). Items from the alleged offender have been seized. He will face the ACT Magistrates Court today (May 7) charged with sexual intercourse without consent.

    Police have issued a warning to members of the public that they assess the qualifications of a provider before receiving a massage, and would urge anyone who believes they may have been subjected to improper sexual conduct during a massage to contact police on 131-444.

If you can help police contact Crimestoppers on 1800 333 000 or online.

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For clarity on clients rights including this case.

The ACT Human Rights Office has the charter for health complaints including massage therapists.

Also every allied health professional should be a member of a professional association – in order to be registered for health funds and to qualify for professional insurances but also as a protection for them and their clients.

The 2 main ones for massage therapy are Australia Association of Massage Therapy AAMT and Australian Massage Therapists AMT. The Australian Traditional Medicine Society ATMS also provides professional registration for a wide range of partitioners including massage therapists. They all have strict codes of conduct and provide appropriate guidelines on informed consent that therapists must comply with.

If is a matter of sexual assault then it is appropriate to make a complaint to the Police.

I think sexual intercourse without consent is pretty clear cut.

I doubt the police would be interested if it had just been a thigh massage.

Madame Workalot9:18 am 08 May 09

I’ll pay that Dvaey 🙂

Madame Workalot said :

Dvaey, your comment was exactly what I encountered when I tried to report it. While I can kind of understand your view, it is ignorant in its simplicity. A massage is a massage. Sexual assault is sexual assault. There is a world of difference between the two.

While my view may be ‘ignorant in its simplicity’, the above story (all 5 sentences) is quite simple, so it would be ignorant of me to form a full opinion of the story based on what Ive read. I simply stated that theres a grey area, and to different people it means different things. To one person a shoulder massage might seen as sexual assault, to another it might be seen as a relaxing gesture from another. Once we have the full story, by all means jump all over this guy, but until we have the full story its unfair of anyone to judge either party.

Madame Workalot8:49 am 08 May 09

dvaey said :

Surely I’m not the only person who thinks theres a grey area between a stranger rubbing their oiled hands all over your semi-naked body, for an extended period of time, and ‘sexual assault’. Not that I’m discounting any rape happening, but without details its a bit hard to know the full story. What one person might interpret as a sexual assault, another might interpret as a thigh massage, and viceversa.

Dvaey, your comment was exactly what I encountered when I tried to report it. While I can kind of understand your view, it is ignorant in its simplicity. A massage is a massage. Sexual assault is sexual assault. There is a world of difference between the two.

Surely I’m not the only person who thinks theres a grey area between a stranger rubbing their oiled hands all over your semi-naked body, for an extended period of time, and ‘sexual assault’. Not that I’m discounting any rape happening, but without details its a bit hard to know the full story. What one person might interpret as a sexual assault, another might interpret as a thigh massage, and viceversa.

Madame Workalot8:43 am 08 May 09

Thanks for the link Willo. It’s not the one I thought it was.

willo said :

sepi said :

Describing a rape as ‘naughty’ is a bit heartless. Poor girl. And it was at a proper business – who would ask to assess the qualifications of the massage provider under those circumstances.

well yes….and the poor girl has paid this bloke for the “massage” (I assume?)….what a terrible abuse of trust…..

Exactly. The same thing happened to me a couple of years ago. It was horrific – in my case I was already in an extremely vulnerable position (the massage was supposed to be a deep tissue massage to help manage a back injury, as I could barely walk). I haven’t been able to go for a massage since, and it took me a long time to even go back to physio. The funny thing was, I was constantly asked ‘why didn’t you try to stop it?’ Is that a question commonly asked of sexual assault victims? Just because the assault occurred in a professional context does not mean that he was going to stop if I asked him nicely.

Best of luck to his poor victims.

sepi said :

Describing a rape as ‘naughty’ is a bit heartless. Poor girl. And it was at a proper business – who would ask to assess the qualifications of the massage provider under those circumstances.

well yes….and the poor girl has paid this bloke for the “massage” (I assume?)….what a terrible abuse of trust…..

Describing a rape as ‘naughty’ is a bit heartless. Poor girl. And it was at a proper business – who would ask to assess the qualifications of the massage provider under those circumstances.

V twin venom6:37 am 08 May 09

Well his wife will be pleased!

Moaning about moderation is the quickest path into it.

I suggest you use the contact button on the top of the page if you wish to discuss an issue.

Skidbladnir said :

Mr Massage’s name has been released (and he is out on bail).

stuffed if i can find this…..link anyone?

#7 is more of a candidate for moderation – but perhaps it’s now okay to insult other posters without adding anything worthwhile to the debate.

NickD said :

FC said :

I think saying “what did she expect” in reference to any alleged sexual assault is in poor taste.

The fact that it’s still here also reflects the poor moderation standards on this site. I hope that the victim of this terrible crime isn’t one of the thousands of readers the site claims to have…

While I think Steady Eddie’s comment abhorrent wouldn’t JB deleting it be regarded as censorship? If so, I’d rather it stay – as tasteless as it is.

FC said :

I think saying “what did she expect” in reference to any alleged sexual assault is in poor taste.

The fact that it’s still here also reflects the poor moderation standards on this site. I hope that the victim of this terrible crime isn’t one of the thousands of readers the site claims to have…

Mr Massage’s name has been released (and he is out on bail).

FC said :

I think saying “what did she expect” in reference to any alleged sexual assault is in poor taste. No matter the context. The culture of ‘blame the victim’ is already doing enough damage as it is.

Absolutely. I think you’re sending the wrong massage Steady Eddie

TheScientist4:25 pm 07 May 09

Madame Workalot said :

I’d be interested in knowing if that masseuse also worked at a certain massage place in Griffith…. Grateful if someone could publish his name if/when it appears.

don’t think he’s a masseuse, and by the sounds of it not much of a masseur either!

My thoughts exactly FC…

I think saying “what did she expect” in reference to any alleged sexual assault is in poor taste. No matter the context. The culture of ‘blame the victim’ is already doing enough damage as it is.

Madame Workalot3:30 pm 07 May 09

I’d be interested in knowing if that masseuse also worked at a certain massage place in Griffith…. Grateful if someone could publish his name if/when it appears.

Re: #7 – LOL, very true!

weeziepops said :

Is sexual intercourse without consent the same as rape? Sounds like the very definition of it to me.

“rape” is no longer a term that is used in regard to sexual. The terms are more specific.
“Rape” could mean a variety of things, whereas the current definitions are far more descriptive of what actually (allegedly) occured.

colourful sydney racing identity3:27 pm 07 May 09

Kazza said :

I certainly hope you are only joking Steady Eddie!

It doesn’t matter if he is joking, he is a d*ckhead

that’s “foot massage” steady eddie

I certainly hope you are only joking Steady Eddie!

I think they took “rape” out of the police list of things to charge people with a while back, and re-named it sexual assault, although that covered a range of things. Then I think they can use more specific charges to categorise the assault.

Steady Eddie3:19 pm 07 May 09

What did she expect? Everybody knows that “massage” is a euphemism for sex.

Is sexual intercourse without consent the same as rape? Sounds like the very definition of it to me.

…with one wearing a fluorescent vest.

Evidently even criminals are taking OH&S seriously now.

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