7 October 2010

Police Wrap - 7 October 2010

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1. Rapid Results:

A total of 469 unregistered and/or uninsured vehicles were detected on Canberra’s roads during the first three months of operation by ACT Policing’s specialist RAPID (Recognition and Analysis of Plates IDentified) team.

Since officially beginning operations on July 1, the high-visibility three-car RAPID team also detected 147 unlicensed drivers, 69 suspended drivers and 22 disqualified drivers.

In addition, nine warrants were executed during the period, three stolen cars recovered, and with the assistance of ACT RTA vehicle inspectors, over 2000 vehicles inspected. More than 500 cars were found to have minor and major defects.

The establishment of the specialist RAPID team, consisting of three Falcon XR6 vehicles with eye-catching signage and “viper” paintwork, received a specific funding allocation in the ACT Government’s May 2010 Budget.

Acting Deputy Chief Police Officer Mark Colbran said the team, led by experienced Traffic Operations Sergeant Andrew Warry, was delivering on expectations but said that the success of the program reflected on the attitudes by some ACT motorists toward complying with the law.

Of concern to police is that despite the high visibility enforcement activities, too many motorists are continuing to drive whilst unlicensed or disqualified, or simply ignore the requirement to register their car. This attitude appears span all income groups, as two of the more recent cars detected by the system were brand new: a Honda Accord and a Mercedes-Benz 350 CLK sports coupe.

“There’s some clear proof to us that some motorists are taking a deliberate economic decision not to register their car or take out CTP (Compulsory Third Party) insurance, and that has implications for all Canberra’s road users,” a/DCPO Colbran said.

“Unregistered and unlicensed/suspended/disqualified drivers are significantly over-represented in serious and fatal collisions so RAPID’s role will continue over the summer months to make our roads safer.”

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Hells_Bells7410:27 am 13 Oct 10

What gives you that impression pete? If that were the case would there be as many insurance claims as there no doubt are? You certainly don’t get far getting anything if those three conditions you mentioned are in question..

It’s funny that most of the crashes and fatalities in the ACT involved Unregistered and unlicensed drivers. Followed closely by alcohol impaired drivers (not much on drugs and speed).

So why are we pissing money up against the wall on socalled safety cameras as they will not treat these causes of crashes.

john87_no1 said :

KB1971 said :

john87_no1 said :

I wonder how much revenue in total that is?

Whats that got to do with it?

Dont you want safer roads or would you prefers speed cameras?

KB1971 I usually only explain myself to people that weren’t around for the cold war…. but here you go.

I would like safer roads. However roads arent unsafe because people forget or don’t pay rego. They are unsafe because people are generally impatient and inconsiderate. Safer roads don’t come from a police camera that traps 1000’s of motorists everyday and sends out 1000’s of fines a month.

Actively and aggressively impounding and crushing cars would push people to be safer more responsible car owners/drivers.

Ok, so one of these drivers runs into you because he had bald tyres & no rego (read the whole thing), makes you a quadriplegic. Who are you going to sue for compensation because he has no TPI & no assets?

So you think the police presence doesnt make a difference?

If you do you are wrong, this is what the roads need more of regardless of what they are doing. If they are out there then people will take notice. Not every body but that is a fact of life.

John87_no1 police cameras don’t trap people. If someone is travelling faster than the posted speed limit and get detected by a speed camera it’s not being trapped, it’s suck sh*t for being stupid and disobeying the speed limit.

Pork Hunt said :

Do the Cops have a till and eftpos on the side of the road?

It’s called 132281 canberra connect.

Do the Cops have a till and eftpos on the side of the road?

screaming banshee8:48 pm 07 Oct 10

Pork Hunt said :

Did they kidnap you? Who wouldn’t let you leave? Fill us in…

I would imagine they were not allowed to drive away in an unregistered vehicle…who would’ve thought. They could have walked away, but I’m pretty sure its also illegal to leave an unregistered vehicle on public land. Probably should have made sure it was registered before they left home.

If you have a prang in an unregistered vehicle the insurance companies will not accept liability regardless of who’s at fault or if you honestly forgot to pay. The fines for driving an unregistered vehicle and/or no 3rd party is chicken feed compared to having to foot the bill for your car, the other car/s and occupants if injured. People think the fines are harsh, yes they are steep ….. But the potential consequences are immense.

georgesgenitals7:19 pm 07 Oct 10

People who drive unregistered cars are scum who deserve to be hung, drawn, quarted, tarred, feathered and flayed. Apparently.

the statistics make it clear

You can’t legally drive a vehicle without current registration. She wouldn’t have been allowed to drive the unregistered vehicle until registration was paid BUT she always had the option of securing it and walking… I think this is what Jillbob was on about.

Pork Hunt said :

Jillbob said :

I got done in my husband’s car. Silly bugger told me it was registered but he’d lost the sticker when we moved…apparently it had expired since again leaving the car unregistered. I have never driven around unregisterd and the one time it slips…blammo!! $1086 thankyouverymuch. And they wouldn’t let me leave until it was paid. So my trip to work cost me nearly $2000. I hate Mondays…

Did they kidnap you? Who wouldn’t let you leave? Fill us in…

I imagine the police refused to return the license without payement, and would fine her again if she tried to drive away plus the fine for not having her license with her.

Just guessing though

Jillbob said :

I got done in my husband’s car. Silly bugger told me it was registered but he’d lost the sticker when we moved…apparently it had expired since again leaving the car unregistered. I have never driven around unregisterd and the one time it slips…blammo!! $1086 thankyouverymuch. And they wouldn’t let me leave until it was paid. So my trip to work cost me nearly $2000. I hate Mondays…

Did they kidnap you? Who wouldn’t let you leave? Fill us in…

Spectra said :

So going off those stats, fully one quarter of the cars on our road have issues worth of a defect notice? That’s pretty concerning, whatever you think the underlying reason might be (be it actually dangerous cars or an overly picky defecting system)…

Probably a statistic somewhat skewed by “randomly” selecting dodgy looking cars for inspection.

johnboy said :

That or just being an ignorant mess of a human being. Like they said, plenty of those caught are in expensive cars.

Right after clicking post, I remembered I hadn’t checked for spelling and grammar. Right after that I wished I had included the other statisticª –, that people who consistantly and knowingly drive unregistered vehicles display a high level of selfishness and lawlessness, which also correlates to general fucktardedness while driving.

ª – Statistic again assumed

So going off those stats, fully one quarter of the cars on our road have issues worth of a defect notice? That’s pretty concerning, whatever you think the underlying reason might be (be it actually dangerous cars or an overly picky defecting system)…

johnboy said :

Actually RAPID was intorduced because of a massive correlation between accidents and unregistered vehicles.

Basically if you can’t organise rego you’re very likely to be a menace on the road.

And two of the most common reasonsª for not having a car registered are (i) it not being safe enough to pass an inspection (not really a problem in Canberra, so long as you keep rego current), and (ii) not being able to afford rego (in which case, probably not being able to afford upkeep on vehicle).

ª – This statistic is a blend of guesses and assumption.

That or just being an ignorant mess of a human being. Like they said, plenty of those caught are in expensive cars.

georgesgenitals4:38 pm 07 Oct 10

The system should be updated to be Recognition and Analysis of Plates and External Defects.

KB1971 said :

john87_no1 said :

I wonder how much revenue in total that is?

Whats that got to do with it?

Dont you want safer roads or would you prefers speed cameras?

KB1971 I usually only explain myself to people that weren’t around for the cold war…. but here you go.

I would like safer roads. However roads arent unsafe because people forget or don’t pay rego. They are unsafe because people are generally impatient and inconsiderate. Safer roads don’t come from a police camera that traps 1000’s of motorists everyday and sends out 1000’s of fines a month.

Actively and aggressively impounding and crushing cars would push people to be safer more responsible car owners/drivers.

Actually RAPID was intorduced because of a massive correlation between accidents and unregistered vehicles.

Basically if you can’t organise rego you’re very likely to be a menace on the road.

I got done in my husband’s car. Silly bugger told me it was registered but he’d lost the sticker when we moved…apparently it had expired since again leaving the car unregistered. I have never driven around unregisterd and the one time it slips…blammo!! $1086 thankyouverymuch. And they wouldn’t let me leave until it was paid. So my trip to work cost me nearly $2000. I hate Mondays…

And how long is he going to be sleeping on the couch?

I was pulled over for having and empty bike rack obscuring my number plate.

Which they kindly let me remove without slapping me with a fine .

🙂

I was very appreciative .

john87_no1 said :

I wonder how much revenue in total that is?

Probably not a lot more than what it would have been if these idiots had just paid their rego in the first place.

john87_no1 said :

I wonder how much revenue in total that is?

Whats that got to do with it?

Dont you want safer roads or would you prefers speed cameras?

Solidarity said :

I got pulled up twice by them for defect checks in my registered car, (they found nothing wrong with it) and in my highly defectable car (unregistered, overseas number plates, but with a permit so I was able to drive it to my mechanics workshop) I drove past the RAPID units a few times and they didn’t do anything.

Just an observation.

I guess which ever country the plates are from hasn’t shared their numberplate database with the RAPID system?

I got pulled up twice by them for defect checks in my registered car, (they found nothing wrong with it) and in my highly defectable car (unregistered, overseas number plates, but with a permit so I was able to drive it to my mechanics workshop) I drove past the RAPID units a few times and they didn’t do anything.

Just an observation.

I wonder how much revenue in total that is?

captainwhorebags said :

I can’t think of a situation where a vehicle is registered but doesn’t carry CTP (and vice versa) as it’s a job lot at renewal time.

NSW registered vehicles I guess could somehow have their insurance expire and still be registered?

captainwhorebags said :

Unregistered and/or uninsured… is it possible to be one but not the other?

I can’t think of a situation where a vehicle is registered but doesn’t carry CTP (and vice versa) as it’s a job lot at renewal time.

Once your rego runs out, you still have CTP insurance for two weeks (in the ACT).

captainwhorebags10:58 am 07 Oct 10

Unregistered and/or uninsured… is it possible to be one but not the other?

I can’t think of a situation where a vehicle is registered but doesn’t carry CTP (and vice versa) as it’s a job lot at renewal time.

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