Prestige Development or Future Slum at Jamison?

ArandaBill 9 March 2011 63

Does 250 one bedroom apartments, 67 two bedroom apartments and only five three bedroom apartments on the site of the old Jamison Inn sound like a presteige development for Jamison to you?

To me it sounds like a future management headache for the community and the unlucky body corporate to bear.

Parking at Jamison will be a nightmare, much worse than it is at the moment.

Meantime the developer who has also quietly acquired the two adjoining blocks from the ACT Government has banked the profits leaving the community to pick up the social costs of such unbalanced developments. We have seen it all before too often across Canberra to be surprised.


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agent00 agent00 8:02 pm 20 Jan 12

risible said :

UPDATE ON REDEVELOPMENT OF JAMISON INN SITE

On 2 December, the ACT Tribunal gave the green light to the Space Macquarie proposal. This means that the entire site will be excavated to the level of Bowman Street and the Jamison Centre car park. Three five-storeyed buildings will be constructed along the edge of the car park, with eleven shops at ground level and residential units above. One four-storeyed, all-residential building will face Bowman Street. Four six-storeyed, all-residential buildings will line Redfern Street.

These buildings will contain 322 units of which 250 are designated as one-bedroomed. In fact, 219 of these will not have a separate, proper bedroom and are more correctly described as bedsitters. Of these, 140 will not have a window over the bed area, the only light and ventilation will come from sliding doors onto the balcony. As the units are twelve metres long and only five metres wide, little sunlight will penetrate into any of the bedsitter-type units. The entrance door to each unit opens onto a closed corridor, which means that there will be no cross-ventilation in the 140 such units that have no secondary window.

All residential parking will be provided on-site in basements, although most two and three-bedroomed units will have to cope with tandem-parking spaces. These involve a double-length parking space that will accommodate two cars one behind the other. Some visitor parking will be provided on-site and some will be along the roadside of Redfern and Bowman Streets adjacent to the development.

For the commercial units, staff parking will be provided on-site but customer parking will not be required on-site. Instead, the proposed on-road parking for visitors along Redfern and Bowman Streets will be increased and will also include parking on the western side of Bowman Street opposite Space Macquarie. Within the Jamison Centre car park, indented road-side parking will be provided along the two access roads off Bowman Street, i.e. opposite Jacaranda and the Southern Cross Club. There is currently parallel parking down one side of each of these access roads; another row will be provided along the opposite side by cutting into the nature strip.

Right-angled parking spaces will also be cut into the nature strip opposite the Jacaranda building. These spaces will form part of the car park and will be at one of the main access points into the busiest section of the car park. This means that vehicles turning from Bowman Street into the car park beside the Jamison Inn/Space Macquarie site and turning immediately left to access the first three aisles of parking will have to contend with vehicles turning into or backing out of angle parking spots on the left. At busy times, this point of entry is already congested with vehicles arriving and leaving from four different directions.

All-day parking in the north-eastern section of the car park, where staff currently park, will probably be changed to short-term parking. Staff will then be required to park on the southern side of Catchpole Street between Collicott Street and the bicycle path. ACT Government staff and consultants have worked hard to prove that Space Macquarie will not need to provide more parking on-site.

So New Acton Nishi is quite slummy too considering the number and size of the 1-bedroom apartments…and they are pricey too more than 400K…also no cross-flow ventilation…not even an AC is included…I guess we are seeing more and more slummy apartments getting built in Canberra…

agent00 agent00 12:46 am 19 Jan 12

Heavs said :

Waaaah. I’m sure this is just a concerned local resident, and not a developer of a rival site very close by having a dig.

So true, pretty sure that rivaling developer owns the Ricardo cafe in Jammo…

agent00 agent00 12:41 am 19 Jan 12

Wow, a slum with Miele appliances and ducted rangehood? I’m quitting my job and applying for it. Well done, Housing ACT!

Mumbucks Mumbucks 9:00 pm 03 Jan 12

Mystique sounds a good name for them.

Chop71 Chop71 2:14 pm 03 Jan 12

ACT Housing – Buy them by the bucketload 🙂

Jethro Jethro 1:15 pm 03 Jan 12

Usermane said :

Jamison is a dump anyway, so, unless it actually turns out as a prestige development, it should fit right in.

I actually think Jamo is one of the best group centres in Canberra, but hey.

Usermane Usermane 1:03 pm 03 Jan 12

Jamison is a dump anyway, so, unless it actually turns out as a prestige development, it should fit right in.

Mothy Mothy 11:11 am 03 Jan 12

So have the developers allowed for a Trolley Return Bay at the entrance to each block of units?

Meanwhile Thynne/Braybrooke Streets in Bruce still the most likely candidate for winning the race to slumsville.

54-11 54-11 9:46 am 03 Jan 12

Dilandach said :

farnarkler said :

Lookout Jamison. Housing ACT and NGOs will take more than a few of those one bedroom flats and all three five bedroom flats. Most tenants will be decent but there WILL be scum who’ll ruin the whole place. It happens in every high density block which has Housing ACT tenants.

Surely some places would have a right to refuse Housing ACT from purchasing? Unless of course its a case of the developers not giving a rats because money is money and they don’t have to live next door to housing tenants.

You just answered your own question.

Dilandach Dilandach 12:10 am 03 Jan 12

farnarkler said :

Lookout Jamison. Housing ACT and NGOs will take more than a few of those one bedroom flats and all three five bedroom flats. Most tenants will be decent but there WILL be scum who’ll ruin the whole place. It happens in every high density block which has Housing ACT tenants.

Surely some places would have a right to refuse Housing ACT from purchasing? Unless of course its a case of the developers not giving a rats because money is money and they don’t have to live next door to housing tenants.

farnarkler farnarkler 7:14 pm 02 Jan 12

Lookout Jamison. Housing ACT and NGOs will take more than a few of those one bedroom flats and all three five bedroom flats. Most tenants will be decent but there WILL be scum who’ll ruin the whole place. It happens in every high density block which has Housing ACT tenants.

poetix poetix 7:02 pm 02 Jan 12

Ben_Dover said :

Keijidosha said :

So the solution to urban decay and socioeconomic disparity is overpriced whitegoods and minimalist design. Who’d have thought?

Obviously. That and a decent car, good wine, holidays in Crete, light opera, and one of them new fangled “sense of humour” things.

This comment made reading a tedious real estate thread totally worthwhile. Hoping to see more like this from BD again, along with the photos of course.

Mind you, I did buy a duplex in Lyneham in 1500 AD for a packet of chips and a dead cat. The beach house in 1510 cost a packet of chips and a dead puppy, due to the effects of inflation.

taninaus taninaus 5:37 pm 02 Jan 12

The 1br sound like any other apartment in Canberra, and better than some of the older style ones around town. Having looked at plenty in Belconnen, Gungahlin, City and Woden this description is par for the course of what is being built these days unless you go for the prestige or boutique style builds.

My view is Jammo shops needs the business to remain viable in the long term and if the workers have to walk an extra 50 meters well welcome to the real world and the arrangements most of us have to manage.

Deref Deref 5:05 pm 02 Jan 12

risible said :

These buildings will contain 322 units of which 250 are designated as one-bedroomed. In fact, 219 of these will not have a separate, proper bedroom and are more correctly described as bedsitters. Of these, 140 will not have a window over the bed area, the only light and ventilation will come from sliding doors onto the balcony. As the units are twelve metres long and only five metres wide, little sunlight will penetrate into any of the bedsitter-type units. The entrance door to each unit opens onto a closed corridor, which means that there will be no cross-ventilation in the 140 such units that have no secondary window.

Translates as “slum” in my dictionary.

Is the government planning to buy half of them as public housing? I hear that’s what happened with that large block of flats in Woden (the one with the hole in the middle).

fabforty fabforty 4:56 pm 02 Jan 12

Yep…future slum.

risible risible 4:51 pm 02 Jan 12

The maximum excavation is nearly seven metres at the highest point of Redfern Street.

p1 p1 3:42 pm 02 Jan 12

risible said :

UPDATE ON REDEVELOPMENT OF JAMISON INN SITE

On 2 December, the ACT Tribunal gave the green light to the Space Macquarie proposal. This means that the entire site will be excavated to the level of Bowman Street and the Jamison Centre car park. .

If it is excavated to the Bowman St level on the entire site, it’s here will be a ten metre or more cliff on the high side of the block.

steveu steveu 3:34 pm 02 Jan 12

dundle said :

Jamison is walking distance to Belconnen.

Which might explain the lack of parking there (ie. the Belconnen workers saving on parking fee)? Or are they all 2 hour spots now? I have always wondered wy that carpark is always chokkas pretty much all day.

risible risible 3:30 pm 02 Jan 12

Definitely a concerned local resident.

Heavs Heavs 2:50 pm 02 Jan 12

Waaaah. I’m sure this is just a concerned local resident, and not a developer of a rival site very close by having a dig.

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