Priorities and humidicribs

Postalgeek 29 April 2009 27

Can anyone provide an update on Canberra Hospital’s quest for a second mobile humidicrib? Can these things malfunction, so that there may be no humidicrib available in Canberra Hospital?

A spokesperson from Katy Gallagher’s dep was quoted on NowUC as saying:

    “Within the public healthcare system, there is always a high demand for services and new equipment… We need to set priorities, not only neonatology, but right across all our services.”

I recognise the limits of budgets/allocations, but it leaves me wondering what other priorities do we have, in healthcare and elsewhere, that requires something like a mobile humidicrib to be relegated to a queue.

I can only speak for myself, but I would rate neonatal and paediatrics pretty much at the top.

There are many essential health services required by the community, but I’m sure the majority of parents, if they had to choose between their own health or that of their children, would side with their children.

If that’s an inaccurate, sweeping generalisation, let me know.


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Woody Mann-Caruso Woody Mann-Caruso 4:57 pm 29 Apr 09

That’s an inaccurate, sweeping generalisation. Another humidicrib would do precisely nada for my two kids, for example. Far more children in the ACT will need care that doesn’t require a mobile humidicrib than do.

Steady Eddie Steady Eddie 5:00 pm 29 Apr 09

I hate that “twinkle twinkle little star” ad on WIN. Every time I see it I switch channels. A pox on them!

peterh peterh 5:06 pm 29 Apr 09

hang on, isn’t the 2nd humidicrib being purchased by public donations, not the act govt?

I think they are a great idea to have here, but why is katy banging on about setting priorities for new equipment that isn’t being purchased by her department?

gun street girl gun street girl 5:25 pm 29 Apr 09

Anecdotally, paediatric services in the hospital do very, very well as far as funding and monetary gifts go. It’s a shame other units don’t get the same public attention or generosity.

Postalgeek Postalgeek 5:38 pm 29 Apr 09

Okay, given that a back-up humidicrib is something that tweaked my care-bear nature, does anyone know the details for making public donations?

weeziepops weeziepops 5:40 pm 29 Apr 09

Oh no – I find myself in full agreement with Woody.

poptop poptop 6:03 pm 29 Apr 09

It is true that the first mobile humidicrib was bought through donations and fundraising.

Clearly health priorities in the ACT are not humidicribcentric.

rambler rambler 7:23 pm 29 Apr 09

A reasonable amount of demand for neonatal intensive care services at TCH would come from NSW residents living in the area surrounding the ACT. Hope we’re passing the hat around to them as well.

fabforty fabforty 7:28 pm 29 Apr 09

poptop said :

It is true that the first mobile humidicrib was bought through donations and fundraising.

Clearly health priorities in the ACT are not humidicribcentric.

Ahh but there’s always money for public “art”.

Ruby Wednesday Ruby Wednesday 7:47 pm 29 Apr 09

There are many essential health services required by the community, but I’m sure the majority of parents, if they had to choose between their own health or that of their children, would side with their children.

Well, not to be callous, but not everyone who uses TCH is a parent and would agree with the idea that paediatrics should be top of the list. If people want to raise the money to buy one, go right ahead, but public priorities are for all of the public, not just the tiny and cute ones.

sb14 sb14 7:49 pm 29 Apr 09

“A reasonable amount of demand for neonatal intensive care services at TCH would come from NSW residents living in the area surrounding the ACT. Hope we’re passing the hat around to them as well.”

That attitude really pisses me off. A sizeable amount of the Canberra Hospital budget is contributed from NSW. Do NSW ask for reimbursement from the ACT for everything the ACT uses? Many patients from the ACT go to Sydney for advanced services at no cost to the ACT. Hell all the roads leading out of the ACT are provided by NSW… should they set up a toll for ACT residents?

gun street girl gun street girl 7:58 pm 29 Apr 09

There’s actually a reciprocal agreement between NSW and the ACT – they pay us a certain amount each year in return for the services provided by the ACT to NSW residents (and I believe we similarly pay back for the patients we transfer interstate – though am not sure on the details – we are relatively self-sufficient). It’s arguable as to whether what they pay is representative of the amount NSW pulls on our services across the board. Nevertheless, in the case of paediatric services, I would wager the ACT leans on NSW a lot more than vice-versa.

Granny Granny 8:05 pm 29 Apr 09

Is there seriously only one humidicrib? What happens if two or three babies need it? Coin toss?

gun street girl gun street girl 8:09 pm 29 Apr 09

Mobile humidicrib. There’s more than one non-mobile crib available.

rambler rambler 8:11 pm 29 Apr 09

sb14 said :

“A reasonable amount of demand for neonatal intensive care services at TCH would come from NSW residents living in the area surrounding the ACT. Hope we’re passing the hat around to them as well.”

That attitude really pisses me off. A sizeable amount of the Canberra Hospital budget is contributed from NSW. Do NSW ask for reimbursement from the ACT for everything the ACT uses? Many patients from the ACT go to Sydney for advanced services at no cost to the ACT. Hell all the roads leading out of the ACT are provided by NSW… should they set up a toll for ACT residents?

Under the terms of the Australian Health Care Agreements jurisdictions reimbursement one and other for hospital services they provide to each others residents. NSW patients represents about 25% of total public hospital activity in the ACT and since the AHCA arrangements have been in place NSW has never reimbursed the ACT the full cost of hospital services we provide to their residents. This is what really pisses me off as an ACT taxpayer. I’m sure the Grants Commission provides adequate reimbursement to NSW for the roads coming into the ACT when it dishes out the GST revenue. The Federal Highway upgrade was paid for by the Commonwealth.

Clown Killer Clown Killer 8:20 pm 29 Apr 09

What does one of these things cost?

gun street girl gun street girl 8:22 pm 29 Apr 09

Clown Killer said :

What does one of these things cost?

Enough to employ a few nurses and open a few beds – $180K, or thereabouts.

Clown Killer Clown Killer 8:32 pm 29 Apr 09

Anyone interested in having a go at raising the money for one then?

Granny Granny 8:46 pm 29 Apr 09

What did you have in mind, CK?

Harrison School had a mufti day apparently and encouraged other schools to do the same. I was pretty impressed by that.

So what does a mobile humidicrib get used for? Is it to transfer the babies to the non-mobile cribs?

rambler rambler 9:21 pm 29 Apr 09

Community CPS and the Newborn Intensive Care Foundation have been running an appeal for a few months to raise the $180,000 needed to purchase the new crib. This looks like the capital cost only. Assume ACT Health budget (with NSW’s generous contribution through hospital cross border payment) will pick up the recurrent costs.

The CPS website has the details http://www.communitycps.com.au

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