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Prison buggered indefinitely

johnboy 18 February 2009 48

The Liberals’ Jeremy Hanson brings word out of committee hearings that the electronic security system at the prison still doesn’t work and no-one knows when it will.

This is the prison that was officially opened before the election as a symbol of the Government’s competence.

So when will they bite the bullet and start shipping long term inmates all the way to distant Goulburn again?


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Jim Jones Jim Jones 2:50 pm 20 Feb 09

peterh said :

Jim Jones said :

Procurement is pretty distinct from an outsourcing tender process or even just outsourcing though, innnit.

Procurement regularly happens without any outsourcing at all.

the framework is a guideline for all forms of procurement, it is used in the evaluation of tenders as well, a bit like the bid / no bid processes many organisations go through prior to responding to a tender. The tender review process must be performed against the weights and measures as per the framework, and one is value for money. price is only one of several factors, something that the ACT government seems to be just focusing on. if there was another response that met all criteria, but was slightly more expensive, and was won based on the total solution, we probably wouldn’t be discussing this at all.

Ah, gotcha.

To be fair, that stuff reads like the kind of fluffy happy ‘guidelines’ bollocks that Govvie Departments come up with and then completely ignore, just like all those ‘family friendly’, ‘work/life balance’ statements.

peterh peterh 1:01 pm 20 Feb 09

johnboy said :

You can’t polish a turd.

But you can roll it in glitter.

(apologies if I use that again soon in a story)

oh i am going to use that one!

tylersmayhem tylersmayhem 12:53 pm 20 Feb 09

encouraging competition by ensuring non-discrimination in procurement and using competitive procurement processes AND making decisions in an accountable and transparent manner.

Giving a current situation I am baring witness too, these widely harped lines are laughable!

peterh peterh 12:47 pm 20 Feb 09

Jim Jones said :

Procurement is pretty distinct from an outsourcing tender process or even just outsourcing though, innnit.

Procurement regularly happens without any outsourcing at all.

the framework is a guideline for all forms of procurement, it is used in the evaluation of tenders as well, a bit like the bid / no bid processes many organisations go through prior to responding to a tender. The tender review process must be performed against the weights and measures as per the framework, and one is value for money. price is only one of several factors, something that the ACT government seems to be just focusing on. if there was another response that met all criteria, but was slightly more expensive, and was won based on the total solution, we probably wouldn’t be discussing this at all.

Whatsup Whatsup 12:30 pm 20 Feb 09

I think we (the tax payers) should have an unopening ceremony to put things straight until it really is ready to open. Government funded “Free Beer” for all.

Jim Jones Jim Jones 12:26 pm 20 Feb 09

Procurement is pretty distinct from an outsourcing tender process or even just outsourcing though, innnit.

Procurement regularly happens without any outsourcing at all.

peterh peterh 11:52 am 20 Feb 09

here is the framework from the fed govt….

Value for Money

Value for money is the core principle underpinning Australian Government procurement. In a procurement process this principle requires a comparative analysis of all relevant costs and benefits of each proposal throughout the whole procurement cycle (whole-of-life costing).

Value for money is enhanced in government procurement by:

1. encouraging competition by ensuring non-discrimination in procurement and using competitive procurement processes;
2. promoting the use of resources in an efficient, effective and ethical manner 6; and
3. making decisions in an accountable and transparent manner.

In order to be in the best position to determine value for money when conducting a procurement process, request documentation needs to specify logical, clearly articulated, comprehensive and relevant conditions for participation and evaluation criteria which will enable the proper identification, assessment and comparison of the costs and benefits of all submissions on a fair and common basis over the whole procurement cycle.

Cost is not the only determining factor in assessing value for money. Rather, a whole-of-life value for money assessment would include consideration of factors such as:

1. fitness for purpose;
2. the performance history of each prospective supplier;
3. the relative risk of each proposal;
4. the flexibility to adapt to possible change over the lifecycle of the property or service;
5. financial considerations including all relevant direct and indirect benefits and costs over the whole procurement cycle; and
6. the evaluation of contract options (for example, contract extension options).

act goverment use the same framework.

here is the info if you are up for a read…

http://www.finance.gov.au/publications/fmg-series/procurement-guidelines/division-1.html#framework

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