14 May 2009

Punching police to save your New Year's rum nets good behaviour order

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The ABC brings the interesting news of Mosiah Luteru, 18, from Florey, who hospitalised a police officer on New Year’s Eve after they caught him with rum in the dry zone.

Today he’s been sentenced to an 18 month good behaviour order by Magistrate Karen Fryar.

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vandam said :

bigred said :

The plods on here should take a reality check on their chosen profession rather than considering a critic has a chip on their shoulder. My simple message is that their service delivery is highly variable, going from extremely good to plain awful. This is something that some senior AFP officers acknowledge. The attitude expressed by the minority of plod posting (in private time, of course) here would suggest which end of the spectrum their outcomes lurk in. Oh for true accountability in this moribund organisation.

Bigred you have always made your feelings clear about the cops in this town. Firstly, like all organisations in this town you get the good and the bad. I’ve never gone to Coles and had great service every single time, So get over it.

Secondly if you don’t like the cops here then move somewhere else where you do like the cops.

You will be surprised to know that the cops here do a hell of a lot more than other states. If you place gets robbed in NSW, your lucky if NSW Police even turn up.

And lastly, whether or not this cop was ‘good’ cop or ‘bad’ cop, he doesn’t deserved to be punched in the face for doing his job. Like the Coles Checkout chick, they don’t deserve to have milk thrown in their face because of poor service.

Excuse me, but why are you comparing the AFP and Coles?
Coles is a supermarket.

You can’t keep punch in your pocket! That doesn’t make sense.

ant said :

I expressed it better though.

Bollocks! 🙂

I expressed it better though.

That’s plagiarism, ant (see #27). Tut tut…

Poor policeman, he was after rum but all he got was punch.

jakez said :

What the hell is a dry zone?

I don’t know, but if you get caught in one, it sure won’t be dry for long.

Deadmandrinking11:37 am 15 May 09

Madame Workalot said :

Deadmandrinking said :

johnboy said :

I thought he did it to hang onto his rum!

More seriously though. Gareth Higgins taught us that belting the Chief Justice was A-OK.

I’m sorry, but i do take issue with the fact that people are so willing to damn Justice Higgins over domestic issues within his home. I remember talking to some cops in a pub (off-duty) and they were going on about the domestic issues in the Higgins home – whilst they were otherwise nice people, I wasn’t impressed by what the cops had said regarding Higgins and his son.

It’s plain and simple: domestic issues happen in many homes, belonging to people from all walks of life. Confrontations between fathers and sons are common ones (I certainly had some bad confrontations with my step-dad and real father, although not in the same caliber as rumor put it in the Higgins home). These things are none of the public’s business, really.

Do you say the same thing in traditional domestic violence situations as well DMD? Is a husband hitting his wife ‘none of the public’s business’? Because I’m struggling to see the difference.

Let me hypothesize, if Karen Fryar had been beaten by a partner, would we be mentioning that partner in the same light as Gareth was mentioned?

bigred said :

The plods on here should take a reality check on their chosen profession rather than considering a critic has a chip on their shoulder. My simple message is that their service delivery is highly variable, going from extremely good to plain awful. This is something that some senior AFP officers acknowledge. The attitude expressed by the minority of plod posting (in private time, of course) here would suggest which end of the spectrum their outcomes lurk in. Oh for true accountability in this moribund organisation.

You make a derogatory remark and get one back ….. then you cry poor professionalism. If you have a gripe about the AFP put it across in a better manner and you may get a better response, but don’t cry foul when you sling mud and some comes back in your face.

VYBerlinaV8_the_one_they_all_copy11:22 am 15 May 09

Not sure how we got on to bagging the cops here. Frankly, the piece of shit who belted the cop should have gotten some time in our newly opened rehabilitation facility.

Oh, and as far as I’m concerned, violence is illegal in Australia, be it in the home or elsewhere.

“Officer, it’s not Rum in my pocket, it’s actually Punch”.

Depends on how sh1t the opinion is.

OTOH, attacking someone for expressing an opinion is a poor way to win an argument.

Good comments Vandam.

As for other comments on the AFP, any profession that requires the individual to put themselves in harms way for the benefit of others gets my vote as role-models, and certainly so over sportspeople. I recall asking a couple of AFP Sergeants how they cope with death, carnage etc. after I witnessed two people die. Their answer was “alcohol and mates – both in great quantity”. Sure, there will always be bad cops, lazy cops etc but these are certainly in the minority in my humble experience. I believe those that undertake this role deserve our respect until they do something lose it. In which case Tooks has provided the answer – make a complaint.

bigred, my advice to you (and anyone else) would be to make a formal complaint if you receive what you consider to be unsatisfactory service (that goes for any organisation, not just police).

There’s little point ranting about it here (apart from letting off steam).

bigred said :

The plods on here should take a reality check on their chosen profession rather than considering a critic has a chip on their shoulder. My simple message is that their service delivery is highly variable, going from extremely good to plain awful. This is something that some senior AFP officers acknowledge. The attitude expressed by the minority of plod posting (in private time, of course) here would suggest which end of the spectrum their outcomes lurk in. Oh for true accountability in this moribund organisation.

Bigred you have always made your feelings clear about the cops in this town. Firstly, like all organisations in this town you get the good and the bad. I’ve never gone to Coles and had great service every single time, So get over it.

Secondly if you don’t like the cops here then move somewhere else where you do like the cops.

You will be surprised to know that the cops here do a hell of a lot more than other states. If you place gets robbed in NSW, your lucky if NSW Police even turn up.

And lastly, whether or not this cop was ‘good’ cop or ‘bad’ cop, he doesn’t deserved to be punched in the face for doing his job. Like the Coles Checkout chick, they don’t deserve to have milk thrown in their face because of poor service.

OMG, the article didn’t even say he felt remorseful for his actions!

Maybe Fryer felt that if she sent him to the new, improved, UN approved prison he might catch a cold.

Yeah but he wasn’t drinking that, he was drinking rum. Or trying to, while defending it from the police who were evidently after it.

What the hell is a dry zone?

The plods on here should take a reality check on their chosen profession rather than considering a critic has a chip on their shoulder. My simple message is that their service delivery is highly variable, going from extremely good to plain awful. This is something that some senior AFP officers acknowledge. The attitude expressed by the minority of plod posting (in private time, of course) here would suggest which end of the spectrum their outcomes lurk in. Oh for true accountability in this moribund organisation.

Madame Workalot8:06 am 15 May 09

Deadmandrinking said :

johnboy said :

I thought he did it to hang onto his rum!

More seriously though. Gareth Higgins taught us that belting the Chief Justice was A-OK.

I’m sorry, but i do take issue with the fact that people are so willing to damn Justice Higgins over domestic issues within his home. I remember talking to some cops in a pub (off-duty) and they were going on about the domestic issues in the Higgins home – whilst they were otherwise nice people, I wasn’t impressed by what the cops had said regarding Higgins and his son.

It’s plain and simple: domestic issues happen in many homes, belonging to people from all walks of life. Confrontations between fathers and sons are common ones (I certainly had some bad confrontations with my step-dad and real father, although not in the same caliber as rumor put it in the Higgins home). These things are none of the public’s business, really.

Do you say the same thing in traditional domestic violence situations as well DMD? Is a husband hitting his wife ‘none of the public’s business’? Because I’m struggling to see the difference.

Tetranitrate2:13 am 15 May 09

That’ll teach the damn cop for trying to take the bloke’s rum.

vg said :

“Today Magistrate Karen Fryar said it was important for Luteru to undergo counselling, to understand why he behaved in the way he did.”

Here’s a hint Karen, he’s a f*ckwit

Great to see the courts standing up for the people that bring people before them. I’d love to see her reaction of it was a member of the judiciary getting belted

There is some great irony here, given a recent post from you regarding the appropriateness of an officer’s response from a member of the public’s plea to them for help. One could almost have responded to that comment of yours with something like:

“Great to see the police standing up for the people that they are supposed to protect. I’d love to see your reaction if it was a member of the police getting belted”.

Tooks said :

bigred said :

like to see plods’ reaction if he belted a member of the public for no reason at al.

Do you walk lopsided with that huge chip on your shoulder?

Ahhh fishing, tis the sport of kings …….

Well, I’m not sure. If someone was after my Rum, I might become rumbunctious too. They can get their own damn rum.

Deadmandrinking11:19 pm 14 May 09

johnboy said :

I thought he did it to hang onto his rum!

More seriously though. Gareth Higgins taught us that belting the Chief Justice was A-OK.

I’m sorry, but i do take issue with the fact that people are so willing to damn Justice Higgins over domestic issues within his home. I remember talking to some cops in a pub (off-duty) and they were going on about the domestic issues in the Higgins home – whilst they were otherwise nice people, I wasn’t impressed by what the cops had said regarding Higgins and his son.

It’s plain and simple: domestic issues happen in many homes, belonging to people from all walks of life. Confrontations between fathers and sons are common ones (I certainly had some bad confrontations with my step-dad and real father, although not in the same caliber as rumor put it in the Higgins home). These things are none of the public’s business, really.

bigred said :

like to see plods’ reaction if he belted a member of the public for no reason at al.

Do you walk lopsided with that huge chip on your shoulder?

Oh I thought of another one… whatever was wrong with a bit of “contact counselling”?

Maybe this is what dear Miss Karen meant has anyone checked with her?

If who belted who? Which ‘he’ are you talking about?

like to see plods’ reaction if he belted a member of the public for no reason at al.

Add it to the pile and some we will have a mountain of bad decisions from the judiciary in this town and it can be a tourist attraction like olympic park in Munich.

Don’t they have counsellors in the new prison?

Skid can you dig up similar decisions from interstate were prison time was handed down? I know there was a four corners or whatever show on a family who gave a cop major life long injuries and were let off by a jury.

Boys in blue….bring back the beastings….feel free to protect your colleagues by shooting offenders square in the chest…let the state then decide on the appropriate level of compensation the victim’s family should receive…I’d suggest about 1% of what army war widows receive will do

I think judges are under the impression that crims think in the same reasoned manor that they do. What’s to understand, he saw an obstacle to his activity and reacted in the traditional way of the ghetto, with a punch.
I dare suggest that the law needs to be changed to place some burden on the parents who raise a violent rat bag like this. I doubt he was a straight A student with good parents who decided to drink and beat up cops one night. This sort of behaviour starts at home.

I thought he did it to hang onto his rum!

More seriously though. Gareth Higgins taught us that belting the Chief Justice was A-OK.

‘Today Magistrate Karen Fryar said it was important for Luteru to undergo counselling, to understand why he behaved in the way he did.’

Any suggestions? Hmmm, maybe he’s just a fool. Can’t see him learning anything positive from this.

“Today Magistrate Karen Fryar said it was important for Luteru to undergo counselling, to understand why he behaved in the way he did.”

Here’s a hint Karen, he’s a f*ckwit

Great to see the courts standing up for the people that bring people before them. I’d love to see her reaction of it was a member of the judiciary getting belted

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