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Queanbeyan High the most violent school in NSW?

By toriness - 16 December 2007 150

According to this article Queanbeyan High school is the roughest in our neighbouring state of NSW.

Anyone on RA who have children in this school and know anything more about it? Does anyone else share my opinion that there should be absolute zero-tolerance on violence against teachers – with incidents reported to the police?

What’s Your opinion?

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Queanbeyan High the most violent school in NSW?
Mælinar 9:47 am 17 Dec 07

Another prime reason why Summernats should be located further south.

I reckon they could use some spare airfield area without any hassles, and the only people they would piss off is the residents of that new suburb they are going to build…

VYBerlinaV8 9:12 am 17 Dec 07

The funny part is that QBN is WAAAAY better than it used to be. During the recession it was vastly worse than now. At least now most of the bogans can afford to feed their kids.

Thumper 8:19 am 17 Dec 07

I’m afraid that Qbyn is a backwater. And worse still, it is neglected by the State government so there’s no real hope of it moving foward.

ant 1:35 am 17 Dec 07

qbn is, I am sad to say, a shithole. I shop in coles and woolworths and notice so many aggressive, ignorant people, I start to think that all breeders are basically sub human. so one night I went home via Manuka coles and shopped there on a Saturday evening. So civilised! People with kids were fine, the kids were helping with the shopping and acting, well, normal. others with baskets, being polite to other shoppers. It was weird. I’d never seen this in Queanbeyan. Ever. Queanbeyan is weird. Maybe they put something in the water to make people stupid and truculent.

Pandy 11:26 pm 16 Dec 07

Weird! Was talking to an ex-teacher from there today. She retired and then temped there, but said no way would she go back there again. Said one of the ex-headmasters was an arse hole and it went down hill from that point onwards.

VYBerlinaV8 9:20 pm 16 Dec 07

“or because if they don’t it will be done to them”

Summed up perfectly.

sepi 8:38 pm 16 Dec 07

And once a school goes dog-eat-dog like that , it is hard to turn it around. It becomes the norm to act viciously, and people start doing it because it was done to them (or because if they don’t it will be done to them.)

Sands 8:26 pm 16 Dec 07

Kids of working age should be interviewed for a position at the school. This would at least indicate a conscious awareness of why they’re there. A lot of kids feel like they ‘have’ to be there and take it for granted. They don’t appreciate the work teachers put in so that they can have the best future they can (they certainly don’t do it for the pay!).

Entering into a contract would mean that they at least understood that it was a privilege to be educated by caring teachers. If they want that, then they need to abide by the rules.

Personally I’m an advocate of a one strike rule. Scare the crap out of them by suspending them publicly on the first offence (obviously depends on the seriousness). If they reoffend, they’ve breached their contract and they’re out immediately. If it’s due to violence, they’re escorted out by police and not allowed near the school again. Seeing that would surely be a deterrent to other kids!

Let them go and look for a job the moment they choose not to behave properly. I’m with Spectra – not to do so is a complete breach of duty of care for teachers and the other kids that want to be there. Not to mention the long term effects bullying can have on its victims.

(unfortunately statistics show that these kids come from bullying homes as well. Sorry for the curve ball… but it’s true)

VYBerlinaV8 8:13 pm 16 Dec 07

I’m going to admit that I’m a product of 6 years at Karabar High. When I was there it was basically a violent, uncontrolled s**thole. Learning was low priority, and most of the time was spent on keeping some sort of order.

That said, I learnt skills about dealing with people that I never would have learnt at a proper school. I use these skills in my professional job – things like being able to tell when people are lying, when people are bluffing and when people are deadly serious.

Also, me and the other guys I went through the place with have some seriously funny stories about some of the stuff that went on there.

Despite all this, there’s no way known my kid will be going to a school like that.

nyssa76 8:03 pm 16 Dec 07

It only reinforces my belief that Queanbeyan should be bypassed. Let the bogans stay in one spot and kill each other off in a neanderthal type death match.

I’d also be interested to know the staff turnover for Queanbeyan High as well as Karabar High.

It also explains why the vast number of students (and ex-students) would catch a Deane’s bus to school (Tuggers) than to go to the local high schools in Struggle Town.

Deadmandrinking 6:35 pm 16 Dec 07

Again we see the media bullying teachers who are being bullied by their students. And they wonder where the culture of bullying is coming from!

I wonder how many reporters would trade their job for a teaching gig in that area. Having come from one of Queanbeyan High’s feeder primary schools (thankfully my mum sent me to another high school instead), I wasn’t that surprised at this article. There’s always been a strong culture of violence among youth in that area. Lots of fights in primary school and afterwards I saw more fights at the Qbn interchange than I ever have in Canberra’s counterparts – and it wasn’t just the students from Qbn H.S., Karabar and St. Eddies. It was the adults too, coming out of the Royal Hotel or the Centrelink Office.

I don’t blame the vice-principal for his apathetic attitude. I imagine most teachers there would just get to the stage of saying ‘f-k it’. I imagine most teachers in general just say ‘f-k it’ to the problem of bullying. It’s a bloody huge problem and it’s a well-established and long-running culture – and to be honest I don’t know the answer to it, but it’s not punishing the teachers.

nyssa76 5:46 pm 16 Dec 07

What shits me more is when you do call the police for an assault on a teacher and the cops show up…then do nothing about the incident as it is a ‘school matter’.

Honestly, that’s usually why most schools don’t call. The second reason is the publicity.

boomacat 2:40 pm 16 Dec 07

bullying and school violence is a massive problem in Australian schools, it was a big problem in my high school (many years ago of course) and was totally ignored by most teachers and school management.

Spectra 11:05 am 16 Dec 07

I’ve personally never understood why assaults in schools seem to be treated as if they were all just part of the experience, while identical behaviour anywhere else in society would instantly be a matter for the police.
What stands out for me about the article, however, is this line:

Despite the seriousness of the injuries, the school had refused to call an ambulance, he said.

What. The. Hell? If true (note the if – these things said by the media are rarely to be taken at face value), that seems to me to be a massive breach of duty of care.

LIC 10:32 am 16 Dec 07

Any violence against teachers should result in police action and removal from the school. (then what do you do with the thugs is another question, but the answer must not be to leave them in the mainstream schools screwing things up for the majority of students who are there to learn …pisses me off the amount of effort put into a relatively small number of dickheads that could be spent far more constructively if the dickheads were not there to waste everyone else’s time and effort).

I wonder who the ACT champion school is? Maybe we could have a brawl-off vs Queanbeyan?

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