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Rally for Refugees

By uniqueusername 12 November 2009 79

I know that many people have different opinions on this issue but I thought I’d pass this on anyway:

Instead of bringing refugees picked up by an Australian Customs ship to Australia, the Government has tried for four weeks to force them to get off in Indonesia.  Indonesia is not a signatory to the UN Convention and Protocol on Refugees.   Its time Australia met our obligation and processed these people efficiently, rather than spending millions locking them up in various places.

This rally calls for action now to treat these people humanely and expeditiously.

The details are as follows:

5:30pm Friday 13 November 2009
Petrie Plaza, Civic (near the Merry Go Round)

Speakers Include:

Will Mudford, Unions ACT
Amanda Besnan, Greens MLA
And an Australasian Federation of Tamil Associations spokesperson

What’s Your opinion?


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Jim Jones 11:16 am 19 Nov 09

billyboy said :

The only long term answer is a rapid de-population of all humans on the planet, in all countries, including us.

And how does denying access to a boatload of Sri Lankan refugees achieve this?

Jim Jones 11:14 am 19 Nov 09

billyboy said :

I’m moving in here so move over, by the way, can you direct me to the nearest dole office?”

Yeah, we all know that all refugees are lazy dole-bludgers who are just gonna sit around doing nothing but sucking up your tax dollars.

Just like previous waves of immigrants haven’t worked hard to achieve anything in this country: Chinese, Vietnamese, Greek, Italian, etc. They all have terrible work ethics and couldn’t be bothered to work hard to get ahead.

billyboy said :

The only long term answer is a rapid de-population of all humans on the planet.quote]

May I suggest you start with yourself?

billyboy 10:18 am 19 Nov 09

I’m always amazed by how “idealistic” some people think. You can’t just get on a boat, rock up in a different country, wade ashore and say “Gday mate, I’m a political refugee escaping the vicious Kevin Rudd Government. I’m moving in here so move over, by the way, can you direct me to the nearest dole office?”

You’ll be rounded up and slapped in a gaol before you can say “but Kev sexually molested me too, no, I can’t prove it, look just take my word for it and make my dole payment out to “cash”.

The only long term answer is a rapid de-population of all humans on the planet, in all countries, including us. Scientists yesterday stated that the world environment is heading for “a worst case scenario in the very near future”. Stick your head out the window and feel the temp – 37Deg – So please, get real on this issue. Australia is already supporting too big a population.

georgesgenitals 9:03 pm 18 Nov 09

Deckard said :

georgesgenitals said :

So… (and this is a serious question) what is the solution? Let the refugees who turn up on illegal boats stay? How do we handle the situation when 1000 boats a week turn up?

Who says 1000 boats a week are going to turn up? Jeez, our country isn’t that good.

How many have we had turn up in the last month? If it’s reached 1000 (people not boats) then it’s just a fart in the ocean. 1000 people turn up at Sydney airport in 20 minutes.

But there is an issue of the cost of processing and housing these people. I think it’s just something, if we want to be seen as a civilised and humane country, that we have to put up with.

I was thinking more along the line of actually collecting these people prior to them getting on the boat, and relocating them to parts of the country that have labour shortages, and having programs to integrate them into Australia. Tell the world that if they can get to Indonesia, we’ll bring them the rest of the way.

Deckard 8:11 pm 18 Nov 09

georgesgenitals said :

So… (and this is a serious question) what is the solution? Let the refugees who turn up on illegal boats stay? How do we handle the situation when 1000 boats a week turn up?

Who says 1000 boats a week are going to turn up? Jeez, our country isn’t that good.

How many have we had turn up in the last month? If it’s reached 1000 (people not boats) then it’s just a fart in the ocean. 1000 people turn up at Sydney airport in 20 minutes.

But there is an issue of the cost of processing and housing these people. I think it’s just something, if we want to be seen as a civilised and humane country, that we have to put up with.

georgesgenitals 7:10 pm 18 Nov 09

So… (and this is a serious question) what is the solution? Let the refugees who turn up on illegal boats stay? How do we handle the situation when 1000 boats a week turn up?

Granny 4:45 pm 18 Nov 09

sloppery said :

colourful sydney racing identity said :

Have these refugees been sexually abused? That’s terrible.

Many orphans aged between 13 and 17 years have been placed unsupervised into adult prisons in Indonesia. I’ll leave it to your imagination.

It seems that we are more sorry for the abuse of some orphans than others.

sloppery said :

colourful sydney racing identity said :

sloppery said :

Is there a Sri Lankan embassy? Let’s just drop them off there.

Ah, that is sensible. I like the way you think. Perhaps if a child runs away from home alleging sexual abuse by her parents we should make sure she is dropped back home, post haste.

Have these refugees been sexually abused? That’s terrible.

I did not suggest that these refugees had been sexual abused. I know you are just trolling, as usual but, if anyone is interested in the plight of Tamils in detention in Sri Lanka, I would suggest they have a look at the report ‘The sexual abuse of men in detention in Sri Lanka’ which can be found in The Lancet, Volume 355, Issue 9220.

Jim Jones 2:29 pm 18 Nov 09

sloppery said :

colourful sydney racing identity said :

sloppery said :

Is there a Sri Lankan embassy? Let’s just drop them off there.

Ah, that is sensible. I like the way you think. Perhaps if a child runs away from home alleging sexual abuse by her parents we should make sure she is dropped back home, post haste.

Have these refugees been sexually abused? That’s terrible.

No, but many Sri Lankans are in danger of being tortured and/or ‘disappeared’ (Sri Lanka’s government being the “world’s worst perpetrators of enforced disappearances”, according to a study by US-based group ‘Human Rights Watch’ (HRW)).

I dunno whether you’d consider this to be worse than sexual abuse. Regardless, the metaphor is entirely appropriate.

Deckard 2:08 pm 18 Nov 09

billyboy said :

“HUMANS ARE NOT AN ENDANGERED SPECIES” you know.

As an environmentalist (and not a philanthropist) all of us must realize (sooner or later lets hope) that the world as we know it is in a state of rapid decay brought about by overpopulation by one of the most terrifying, destructive, thoughtless and careless species this planet has ever had the misfortune of hosting – sadly I’m one of the that species, and if you’re reading this so are you.

We shouldn’t be using GMOs to support this growing species with food, or provide housing, or cars, or mobile phones, we should in fact be looking at cutting the human population back to 1 billion, and we could easily do this by the end of one and a half generations. If we don’t tackle this problem head on, then all will be lost.

All these refugees are a problem caused by over population, to put it in simple terms for the naive “humanitarians” out there who are driving the destruction of the only place in the universe we can survive, how about thinking a little bit broader than you do now, ok?

If wanting to save our planet from destruction makes me a xenophobe, well then maybe the term xenophobe needs broadening.

Adolf? Is that you?

sloppery 2:07 pm 18 Nov 09

colourful sydney racing identity said :

sloppery said :

Is there a Sri Lankan embassy? Let’s just drop them off there.

Ah, that is sensible. I like the way you think. Perhaps if a child runs away from home alleging sexual abuse by her parents we should make sure she is dropped back home, post haste.

Have these refugees been sexually abused? That’s terrible.

Jim Jones 1:40 pm 18 Nov 09

billyboy said :

“HUMANS ARE NOT AN ENDANGERED SPECIES” you know.

As an environmentalist (and not a philanthropist) all of us must realize (sooner or later lets hope) that the world as we know it is in a state of rapid decay brought about by overpopulation by one of the most terrifying, destructive, thoughtless and careless species this planet has ever had the misfortune of hosting – sadly I’m one of the that species, and if you’re reading this so are you.

We shouldn’t be using GMOs to support this growing species with food, or provide housing, or cars, or mobile phones, we should in fact be looking at cutting the human population back to 1 billion, and we could easily do this by the end of one and a half generations. If we don’t tackle this problem head on, then all will be lost.

All these refugees are a problem caused by over population, to put it in simple terms for the naive “humanitarians” out there who are driving the destruction of the only place in the universe we can survive, how about thinking a little bit broader than you do now, ok?

If wanting to save our planet from destruction makes me a xenophobe, well then maybe the term xenophobe needs broadening.

So we let the poor foreign people die while we kick back and live it up.

Nice plan.

billyboy said :

“HUMANS ARE NOT AN ENDANGERED SPECIES” you know.

As an environmentalist (and not a philanthropist) all of us must realize (sooner or later lets hope) that the world as we know it is in a state of rapid decay brought about by overpopulation by one of the most terrifying, destructive, thoughtless and careless species this planet has ever had the misfortune of hosting – sadly I’m one of the that species, and if you’re reading this so are you.

We shouldn’t be using GMOs to support this growing species with food, or provide housing, or cars, or mobile phones, we should in fact be looking at cutting the human population back to 1 billion, and we could easily do this by the end of one and a half generations. If we don’t tackle this problem head on, then all will be lost.

All these refugees are a problem caused by over population, to put it in simple terms for the naive “humanitarians” out there who are driving the destruction of the only place in the universe we can survive, how about thinking a little bit broader than you do now, ok?

If wanting to save our planet from destruction makes me a xenophobe, well then maybe the term xenophobe needs broadening.

You are travelling in a very, very scary direction Billyboy…dog whistling population control of particular people…very, very scary

billyboy 12:32 pm 18 Nov 09

“HUMANS ARE NOT AN ENDANGERED SPECIES” you know.

As an environmentalist (and not a philanthropist) all of us must realize (sooner or later lets hope) that the world as we know it is in a state of rapid decay brought about by overpopulation by one of the most terrifying, destructive, thoughtless and careless species this planet has ever had the misfortune of hosting – sadly I’m one of the that species, and if you’re reading this so are you.

We shouldn’t be using GMOs to support this growing species with food, or provide housing, or cars, or mobile phones, we should in fact be looking at cutting the human population back to 1 billion, and we could easily do this by the end of one and a half generations. If we don’t tackle this problem head on, then all will be lost.

All these refugees are a problem caused by over population, to put it in simple terms for the naive “humanitarians” out there who are driving the destruction of the only place in the universe we can survive, how about thinking a little bit broader than you do now, ok?

If wanting to save our planet from destruction makes me a xenophobe, well then maybe the term xenophobe needs broadening.

Jim Jones 12:09 pm 18 Nov 09

Hells_Bells74 said :

You see Aussies feel pretty safe on the whole.. Feel their country would or could never persecute/starve the people or have a war, internal or otherwise. Well derr, shit happens!

Wake up.. if it was you escaping the horrors of genocide/war, here’s to hoping your karma doesn’t notice also when you’re at the crossroads of life for those who shun the very thought now.

+1

“I’m alright, so screw those untrustworthy foreigners” never struck me as a particularly compelling foundation for debate about refugee intake.

sloppery said :

Is there a Sri Lankan embassy? Let’s just drop them off there.

Ah, that is sensible. I like the way you think. Perhaps if a child runs away from home alleging sexual abuse by her parents we should make sure she is dropped back home, post haste.

Hells_Bells74 11:18 am 18 Nov 09

You see Aussies feel pretty safe on the whole.. Feel their country would or could never persecute/starve the people or have a war, internal or otherwise. Well derr, shit happens!

Wake up.. if it was you escaping the horrors of genocide/war, here’s to hoping your karma doesn’t notice also when you’re at the crossroads of life for those who shun the very thought now.

sloppery 10:28 am 18 Nov 09

Is there a Sri Lankan embassy? Let’s just drop them off there.

astrojax 8:51 am 18 Nov 09

billyboy said :

I think they should have to go home and fix the mess they made in their own country rather than run away from it and create another mess here. “HUMANS ARE NOT AN ENDANGERED SPECIES” you know.

this is a very naive (i hope not xenophobic and bigoted) comment – the persecuted are hardly the likely suspects to foment political change; perhaps others might foment radical transformation of their government on their behalf, but the ones at risk of persecution do well to flee such troubles, not ‘fix the mess’ – oh, and i don’t think these refugees ‘made’ it.

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