RAPID results

johnboy 23 May 2011 29

ACT Policing’s RAPID (Recognition and Analysis of Plates Identified) team has issued a total of 134 infringement notices to drivers over the past five days.

Between Wednesday (May 18) and Sunday (May 22), members from the RAPID team detected 57 unregistered vehicles, 24 uninsured vehicles and 14 unlicensed drivers.

Ten motorists were issued TINs for using a handheld mobile phone while driving and another three motorists were issued TINs for failing to wear a seatbelt.

During this operational period, a man’s vehicle was seized for 90 days, and he will be summonsed to face the ACT Magistrates Court at a later date charged with performing a burnout, driving an unregistered and uninsured vehicle, and driving whilst suspended.

Officer in Charge of Traffic Operations Jeff Knight said that RAPID remained an important element of traffic enforcement and would de deployed on a targeted basis.

“Motorists who fail to register or insure their cars are ignoring their responsibility as road users and endangering others. We will continue to target these people and by doing so, make ACT roads safer for everyone,” Sergeant Knight said.

[Courtesy ACT Policing]


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dvaey dvaey 10:19 am 26 May 11

vg said :

Ronnielane said :

The fines in NSW for towing an unregistered trailer are upwards of $650 (I know someone who recieved it). He was told at the time it was set at that level to encourage people to rego their trailers, perhaps no rego = no 3rd party and zero comprehensive insurance.

Bulls***

vg, exactly which bit are you disagreing with? The fact someone got fined for unreg’d? The fact he was told there is a fine to encourage ppl to register their trailers?

As brought up, it doesnt need 3rd party but might void your 3rd party by being unregistered.. is that what you were calling out?

vg vg 10:11 pm 25 May 11

Ronnielane said :

The fines in NSW for towing an unregistered trailer are upwards of $650 (I know someone who recieved it). He was told at the time it was set at that level to encourage people to rego their trailers, perhaps no rego = no 3rd party and zero comprehensive insurance.

Bulls***

Ronnielane Ronnielane 7:47 pm 25 May 11

dvaey said :

Ronnielane said :

The fines in NSW for towing an unregistered trailer are upwards of $650 (I know someone who recieved it). He was told at the time it was set at that level to encourage people to rego their trailers, perhaps no rego = no 3rd party and zero comprehensive insurance.

This doesnt make sense, because trailers dont have insurance, theyre covered by the insurance of the towing vehicle. When you register a trailer, there is no CTPI, rescue fee or any other specific fees, 100% of that money goes into general revenue.

That was the fine (approx) and pretty much what the police officer said, I think it cost me $60 (ACT) to rego my trailer. I haven’t researched it, but just maybe if the trailer is unregistered the vehicles insurance will not cover it. The fine seems excessive, if indeed the trailer is insured while unregistered. At the very least the size of the fine for no rego provides an incentive to remember to rego a trailer.

dvaey dvaey 7:14 pm 25 May 11

Ronnielane said :

The fines in NSW for towing an unregistered trailer are upwards of $650 (I know someone who recieved it). He was told at the time it was set at that level to encourage people to rego their trailers, perhaps no rego = no 3rd party and zero comprehensive insurance.

This doesnt make sense, because trailers dont have insurance, theyre covered by the insurance of the towing vehicle. When you register a trailer, there is no CTPI, rescue fee or any other specific fees, 100% of that money goes into general revenue.

cleo cleo 11:43 pm 23 May 11

I think it’s great news, I for one was almost ran off the freeway coming back from Sydney, some bloke was on his Mobil, and proceeded to go into my lane without looking, the twat!

LSWCHP LSWCHP 10:21 pm 23 May 11

This is bloody great news. Good on the Rapid teams, I reckon they’re fantastic. Look at the number of dickheads they’ve picked up in just 5 days. All those unregistered, ininsured vehicles and unlicensed drivers will put you in a huge world of hurt it they hit you.

As for the unregistered, uninsured, suspended burnout fool, I hope he ends up in front of my new hero du jour, Judge Neild. Anyone can make a mistake or two, but these dedicated recidivist scofflaws should be removed from civilised society.

luther_bendross luther_bendross 7:07 pm 23 May 11

magiccar9 said :

The police need to get real with these drivers. If they are so desperate to talk on the phone, the police should take those instead and make them watch while they are crushed into a cube. Hit them where it hurts!

+1 for crushing things into cubes: you break a law with something, we’re gonna cube-ify it. Examples:
1. Caught will too much weed? We’re makin’ hash cubes now.
2. Feel like gettin’ stabby? Well try stabbing anyone with eight (relatively) blunt vertices.
3. Gonna get all gay married? Well we’re changin your balls into cubes so you can attempt to use them in……. Shooters.

Spideydog Spideydog 6:38 pm 23 May 11

Erg0 said :

I would imagine that the car and the trailer are considered to be a single entity for the purposes of third party insurance. The mind boggles at the alternative scenario.

As long as the vehicle towing the trailer is still covered by CTP, the trailer is too, hence just the trailer unreggy.

On another point (not related you erg0) I wouldn’t jump on rottweiler too much as he/she admitted being at fault, just the fine being rather large. Yes it is large, but at the end of the day, if that vehicle and trailer became involved in a collision, no matter who was at fault, $543 would be chicken feed and insurance companies don’t care if it was an honest mistake 🙁

Ronnielane Ronnielane 5:28 pm 23 May 11

The fines in NSW for towing an unregistered trailer are upwards of $650 (I know someone who recieved it). He was told at the time it was set at that level to encourage people to rego their trailers, perhaps no rego = no 3rd party and zero comprehensive insurance.

CanberraGirl19 CanberraGirl19 5:10 pm 23 May 11

rottweiler said :

I sit on the fence with “RAPID” vehicles, I was stupid circled the calender wrong and didn’t renew rego on a trailer (rego slip sits in glovebox) a rapid vehicle doing a U-turn in a servo stop my partner and we were hit with a $500+ fine for 1 week out of rego, YES it was our fault the officers did feel bad as they could clearly see it was an honest mistake but was nothing they could do. Getting fined wasn’t the problem it was the amount considering it was 3 plus times what the rego costs for 12months

Why are you on the fence about the RAPID vehicles though? Clearly, they work, and you pointed out yourself that the officers felt bad about having to ticket you, but there was nothing they could do. I don’t imagine they’d really be able to use discretion for things like an unregistered vehicle, it either is or it isn’t. And the police don’t set the amounts for the fines, the government does.

Erg0 Erg0 4:03 pm 23 May 11

I would imagine that the car and the trailer are considered to be a single entity for the purposes of third party insurance. The mind boggles at the alternative scenario.

hoody hoody 3:39 pm 23 May 11

What’s the story with an unregistered trailer on a registered car – is it insured or not? The trailer rego seems to be just a registration charge.

colourful sydney racing identity colourful sydney racing identity 3:24 pm 23 May 11

rottweiler said :

I sit on the fence with “RAPID” vehicles, I was stupid circled the calender wrong and didn’t renew rego on a trailer (rego slip sits in glovebox) a rapid vehicle doing a U-turn in a servo stop my partner and we were hit with a $500+ fine for 1 week out of rego, YES it was our fault the officers did feel bad as they could clearly see it was an honest mistake but was nothing they could do. Getting fined wasn’t the problem it was the amount considering it was 3 plus times what the rego costs for 12months

You were caught driving an unregistered trailer, the law was applied, what is the problem?

rottweiler rottweiler 3:18 pm 23 May 11

I sit on the fence with “RAPID” vehicles, I was stupid circled the calender wrong and didn’t renew rego on a trailer (rego slip sits in glovebox) a rapid vehicle doing a U-turn in a servo stop my partner and we were hit with a $500+ fine for 1 week out of rego, YES it was our fault the officers did feel bad as they could clearly see it was an honest mistake but was nothing they could do. Getting fined wasn’t the problem it was the amount considering it was 3 plus times what the rego costs for 12months

magiccar9 magiccar9 1:02 pm 23 May 11

p1 said :

what needs to be increased is the rate at which it is enforced.

+1 for that

p1 p1 12:55 pm 23 May 11

magiccar9 said :

p1 said :

[The response to this is an accusation that I don’t care about safety?

I never said that mate. You clearly stated that you do care about safety in previous posts, I never doubted that. I was merely saying that the punishment isn’t hard enough when considering alternate outcomes from the situation.

Fair enough, I guess I should have seen that as a comment to the world, and not aimed so much at me.

Although I very much feel that this is an aspect of road safety where the punishment is probably about right, and what needs to be increased is the rate at which it is enforced.

magiccar9 magiccar9 12:31 pm 23 May 11

p1 said :

[The response to this is an accusation that I don’t care about safety?

I never said that mate. You clearly stated that you do care about safety in previous posts, I never doubted that. I was merely saying that the punishment isn’t hard enough when considering alternate outcomes from the situation.

Spideydog Spideydog 12:31 pm 23 May 11

p1 said :

magiccar9 said :

People need to learn that they aren’t the only ones on the road. Laws are there for a reason. We don’t always agree with them but hell, we have to obey them. And that means ALL of us. If they keep issuing petty little fines, then the message is never going to get through. Its about time the cops got tough on this sort of stuff!

Isn’t this exactly why he was given a fine and the loss of three points (one quarter of the total points you have? This is the equivalent of speeding 15km/h over the limit, and more serious then running a stop sign. It is also a pretty big chunk of an apprentices fortnightly income.

I posted in this thread with the belief that I was giving and example that the police were interested in enforcing this danger on the road, and the punishment when you are caught is significant enough that people should rethink their actions. The response to this is an accusation that I don’t care about safety?

Additionally, Police don’t set the fines or demerit points ……. they are set by government !!!!! In saying that, I think the penalties are about right. To most people, they do hit pretty hard.

p1 p1 12:19 pm 23 May 11

magiccar9 said :

People need to learn that they aren’t the only ones on the road. Laws are there for a reason. We don’t always agree with them but hell, we have to obey them. And that means ALL of us. If they keep issuing petty little fines, then the message is never going to get through. Its about time the cops got tough on this sort of stuff!

Isn’t this exactly why he was given a fine and the loss of three points (one quarter of the total points you have? This is the equivalent of speeding 15km/h over the limit, and more serious then running a stop sign. It is also a pretty big chunk of an apprentices fortnightly income.

I posted in this thread with the belief that I was giving and example that the police were interested in enforcing this danger on the road, and the punishment when you are caught is significant enough that people should rethink their actions. The response to this is an accusation that I don’t care about safety?

Spideydog Spideydog 12:11 pm 23 May 11

dvaey said :

DarkLadyWolfMother said :

It would also be nice if the police weren’t allowed to do it as well. Nearly got T-boned by a cop doing just that… I wish I’d been smart enough to get his number…

That would have achieved nothing, except you being told it was official police busines and the laws dont apply to them, oh and by the way can we grab your name, address, DOB and drivers licence number, just to complete our paperwork? We promise your complaint wont be linked to any details you provide, honest.

I see you have the tin foil hat on again dvaey ……..

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