11 January 2011

Rear-end at 5:20pm on Parkes Way onramp 10 January. Did anyone see?

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Dear people of the RiotACT,

Sorry to bother you all, but I’m trying to find the person who rear-ended me this evening on the onramp to Parkes Way East under the Commonwealth Ave bridge.

It would have been arouind 5:20pm. Driver was female, brunette, early to mid-twenties. Can’t say much about the car except that I’m pretty sure the number plate was YBJ 87L and I think it was white. It all happened too fast to see much else.

We were holding up rush-hour traffic on the ramp in a pretty serious way and I agreed to follow my unknown partner in destruction to her house, allegedly just a short distance away, so as to be able to exchange details in full without keeping too many commuters waiting. Instead of passing me to lead the way, she disappeared in traffic. I waited close to the crash for some time, but she did not return.

Do I sound like a pretty stupid person to you? Me too. I can only offer, as my defense, that I was too confused and busy checking that I still had all my bits to apply the appropriate amount of suspicion and street-smarts at the time.

Anyway, if you saw the accident and you know more, or if you happen to know a girl whose front bumper is mysteriously f*cked up, please get in touch with me on 0430 543 547. I’m not after blood, just want to get everything properly sorted out.

Thanks all,

Kale

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Hey Kale,

I was in the police station when you reported it. I hope you find the girl that rear ended you. I would ohnestly take the advice of the person on here that said you should wait on the side of the road around the same time one night this week and see if you drives past, she probably takes the same route home every night. Best of luck if I see or here anything I will let you know.

Regards,
Andre

Jethro said :

georgesgenitals said :

Jethro said :

Because, by identifying them as Maoris, there is an implicit assumption that their being Maori was the causal factor that led to them not paying for the damages. That would be called racism.

Yes, but isn’t that your assumption? Does that make you the racist?

I read the thread above and didn’t think that their being Maori was a causal factor.

If the people in the car were white, would race have been mentioned? Of course not. No one says, “A bunch of whiteys crashed into me.”
The Maori element was brought up for no other reason than to suggest that the Maoriness (that’s not a word, I’m sure) was part of the reason the event happened.

FFS does it really matter?

Are so sensiteve the political correctness shoved down our throats by the media every day?

Going by your reasoning anybody who didn’t think anything of describing the race of people in that post must be racist or if you are victim of crime and use race in the description of the person you are racist.

Maybe we should all chip in so you can go to Fyswick & lighten the load………..

Thoroughly Smashed8:53 am 12 Jan 11

facet said :

Thoroughly Smashed said :

Captain RAAF said :

A fact is a fact, they were Maori’s, who cares if it’s relevant or not, they were Maori’s!

What belonged to Maori?

Will no-one rid me of the these troublesome apostrophe vigilantes.

http://www.killtheapostrophe.com/

Banning the apostrophe because it’s misunderstood is like banning cars because people speed. And then what, I’d have to meaningfully contribute rather than just poke fun at its misuse? Pfft.

Thoroughly Smashed said :

Captain RAAF said :

A fact is a fact, they were Maori’s, who cares if it’s relevant or not, they were Maori’s!

What belonged to Maori?

Will no-one rid me of the these troublesome apostrophe vigilantes.

http://www.killtheapostrophe.com/

princelesspuppy said :

I hate to say it but I don’t hold much hope for you getting any assistance from your insurance company. A similar thing happened to me about 3 years ago where I was side-swiped by a ute that proceeded to speed away. I chased after them (without speeding) and managed to corner them in a culdersac to get their rego plates before they drove over the gutter and away. I went straight to the police station to report it. The police say they attended the address where the vehicle was registered and were informed (coincedentally) that the vehicle had been stolen, despite not having been reported stolen and the fact that the accident happened in the area of where the vehicle was registered.

The insurance company would not do anything as they claim I could not prove who the driver was even though I had the number plates. I ended up having to pay $2000 excess (I was under 21) and swiftly changed insurance companies after that.

I hope you get a better outcome than I did!!

Actually, when I was rammed from behind and I reported it to the Police, they were 100% addiment(?) and correct in telling me that if you are a victim of crime, you will not lose your no claim bonus or have to pay the excess. They also said that it is common for Insurance companies to try and pull that sort of line which you have stated, and that if I had any issues with my insurance company trying it on with me that I should refer them to the Police and they will back off quick smart. In the end I didnt pay a cent or lose my ncb. Sounds like you have been ripped off.

dvaey said :

niftydog said :

Just report it to police and make your insurance claim; Let them deal with chasing the offender. You’ll get your car fixed and you can just move on.

Spoken like someone who has never tried to recover details of ‘the other driver’ after an accident. Happened to me once, and it took weeks of runarounds from the police who couldnt disclose the details due to privacy (but could provide me with a censored copy of the accident report, minus the others details). Eventually the only way the situation was resolved, was with a letter written to AFP’s CPO, NRMA, CT and TAMS (yay for alphabet soup). This was even with 2 independant witnesses who had provided written statements.

Jethro said :

If the people in the car were white, would race have been mentioned? Of course not. No one says, “A bunch of whiteys crashed into me.”

It depends, in a police or media report it would be ‘caucasian’ not ‘whiteys’, or have you never heard police refer to ‘caucasians’ before?

Why didn’t you, or your insurance company file a freedom of information request, which would have give you all the details?

niftydog said :

Just report it to police and make your insurance claim; Let them deal with chasing the offender. You’ll get your car fixed and you can just move on.

Spoken like someone who has never tried to recover details of ‘the other driver’ after an accident. Happened to me once, and it took weeks of runarounds from the police who couldnt disclose the details due to privacy (but could provide me with a censored copy of the accident report, minus the others details). Eventually the only way the situation was resolved, was with a letter written to AFP’s CPO, NRMA, CT and TAMS (yay for alphabet soup). This was even with 2 independant witnesses who had provided written statements.

Jethro said :

If the people in the car were white, would race have been mentioned? Of course not. No one says, “A bunch of whiteys crashed into me.”

It depends, in a police or media report it would be ‘caucasian’ not ‘whiteys’, or have you never heard police refer to ‘caucasians’ before?

princelesspuppy9:58 pm 11 Jan 11

I hate to say it but I don’t hold much hope for you getting any assistance from your insurance company. A similar thing happened to me about 3 years ago where I was side-swiped by a ute that proceeded to speed away. I chased after them (without speeding) and managed to corner them in a culdersac to get their rego plates before they drove over the gutter and away. I went straight to the police station to report it. The police say they attended the address where the vehicle was registered and were informed (coincedentally) that the vehicle had been stolen, despite not having been reported stolen and the fact that the accident happened in the area of where the vehicle was registered.

The insurance company would not do anything as they claim I could not prove who the driver was even though I had the number plates. I ended up having to pay $2000 excess (I was under 21) and swiftly changed insurance companies after that.

I hope you get a better outcome than I did!!

georgesgenitals said :

Jethro said :

Because, by identifying them as Maoris, there is an implicit assumption that their being Maori was the causal factor that led to them not paying for the damages. That would be called racism.

Yes, but isn’t that your assumption? Does that make you the racist?

I read the thread above and didn’t think that their being Maori was a causal factor.

If the people in the car were white, would race have been mentioned? Of course not. No one says, “A bunch of whiteys crashed into me.”
The Maori element was brought up for no other reason than to suggest that the Maoriness (that’s not a word, I’m sure) was part of the reason the event happened.

Okay, missed the bit about you only having 3rd party insurance. You will need to be proactive yourself if there is no insurer to help you.

Not sure if this is the case in the ACT but in NSW, at least a few years ago when I was last involved in that sort of thing, you can go to a motor registry and tell them that you were involved in an accident and want to obtain the details of the registered owner of the other vehicle.

The system in NSW was that you would have to produce identification [drivers licence], fill out a form and pay a fee. The person who’s details you will be getting will also be notified by mail by the motor registry about your enquiry and will be provided with your name and address [this is presumably to stop stalkers, etc]. Not sure if the ACT has a similar system in place, but I suspect it does, as this is how the insurance companies usually go about getting that information.

Once you have the details of the other driver [assuming you got the rego number right] you can start chasing her for the cost of repairing your vehicle.

troll-sniffer said :

watto23 said :

I assume you have reported the incident to the police. Its an offence not to, plus if you report the details your insurance company will probably fix your car without costing you money.

As far as I know if there are no injuries in a prang there’s no requirement to report it, other than what your insurance company requires.

Think you will find that if there are no injuries then police do not need to attend the scene of the accident, however all accidents need to be reported to the coppers withing a day or so.

Thoroughly Smashed said :

What belonged to Maori?

I see what you did there. A grammar joke, making fun of Captain RAAF’s machine-gun approach to punctuation.

Every crash has to be reported. Do it online to save time at http://www.canberraconnect.act.gov.au/Services/a/australian-federal-police-crash-report which also confirms that you must, by law, report a crash.

georgesgenitals3:35 pm 11 Jan 11

Jethro said :

Because, by identifying them as Maoris, there is an implicit assumption that their being Maori was the causal factor that led to them not paying for the damages. That would be called racism.

Yes, but isn’t that your assumption? Does that make you the racist?

I read the thread above and didn’t think that their being Maori was a causal factor.

Captain RAAF said :

watto23 said :

Ahhh.. yes… the Maoris. It was clearly their being Maori that caused them to not pay for the repairs and it was therefore vitally important that you included this in your post. It would not have done to say “some people hit my car” and I am sure if the people in your story were white you would have written the story to say “some Anglos hit my car.”

Well it’s good enough for the Police and media to mention the demographic so why not here? A fact is a fact, they were Maori’s, who cares if it’s relevant or not, they were Maori’s!

Because, by identifying them as Maoris, there is an implicit assumption that their being Maori was the causal factor that led to them not paying for the damages. That would be called racism.

Thoroughly Smashed1:15 pm 11 Jan 11

Captain RAAF said :

A fact is a fact, they were Maori’s, who cares if it’s relevant or not, they were Maori’s!

What belonged to Maori?

Captain RAAF1:00 pm 11 Jan 11

Jivrashia said :

Captain RAAF said :

if I was you, i’d lay in wait at the same spot and wait for her to come past .

cruise the streets and look for the car in question

Care to volunteer your time for such a brilliant idea?

No, I wouldn’t have been so stupid to let the other car drive off without getting ALL the details. Kale should consider it a good character building activity. Off ya go!

Captain RAAF said :

if I was you, i’d lay in wait at the same spot and wait for her to come past .

cruise the streets and look for the car in question

Care to volunteer your time for such a brilliant idea?

Captain RAAF12:26 pm 11 Jan 11

watto23 said :

Ahhh.. yes… the Maoris. It was clearly their being Maori that caused them to not pay for the repairs and it was therefore vitally important that you included this in your post. It would not have done to say “some people hit my car” and I am sure if the people in your story were white you would have written the story to say “some Anglos hit my car.”

Well it’s good enough for the Police and media to mention the demographic so why not here? A fact is a fact, they were Maori’s, who cares if it’s relevant or not, they were Maori’s!

troll-sniffer said :

watto23 said :

I assume you have reported the incident to the police. Its an offence not to, plus if you report the details your insurance company will probably fix your car without costing you money.

As far as I know if there are no injuries in a prang there’s no requirement to report it, other than what your insurance company requires.

If the number plate is even somewhat close to the real thing the copulators should be able to track down the correct vehicle/plate match.

It’s highly probably that you will just have to grit your teeth and wear this one, if the bimbo who rear-ended you is such a dishonest skank that she would drive off, then getting money out of her (probably)uninsured carcasse will be on a par with getting sensible policies out of Tony Abbott. Good luck to that. years ago i had a bunch of Maoris total my little Mini by not giving way, they admitted it, they told the cops thatey would pay for my car, they even gave me correct contact details. In the end though, despite all positive signs, they never paid a cent and made it obvious they knew that the amount I was claiming was less than the costs of recovery, and that was that.

Ahhh.. yes… the Maoris. It was clearly their being Maori that caused them to not pay for the repairs and it was therefore vitally important that you included this in your post. It would not have done to say “some people hit my car” and I am sure if the people in your story were white you would have written the story to say “some Anglos hit my car.”

Holden Caulfield11:08 am 11 Jan 11

liability said :

Not the case. Getting your car repaired by your insurance company won’t be an issue. What will be an issue is paying your excess.

Yes, the excess on a policy the OP doesn’t have should be quite tricky to pay. He has already said he only has 3rd party property insurance, hence his eagerness to identify his masked girl.

Either that, or this is a really poor attempt at Being Steve Tucker.

I was also under the impression motorists are required to report any crash to the Police if another vehicle was involved, regardless of injury.

Good luck finding the woman. Given that her car must be pretty banged up and you have given the police the details, it shouldn’t be too hard to find her. There are plenty of dishonest people out there. It was unfortunate that one of them hit you. Make sure you keep in contact with the police to see if they have found anything. Sometimes they get too busy to contact you.

Not the case. Getting your car repaired by your insurance company won’t be an issue. What will be an issue is paying your excess. Unless you are able to identify the driver of the other vehicle to the satisfaction of the insurance company you will most likely be up for your excess [normally around $300-$500, although this can vary greatly depending upon your policy, age, etc].

The normal procedure in these cases, where you have provided the rego number of the other vehicle, is that the insurance company will get a rego check done and will write to the other party with the intention of claiming the cost of your repairs from them. Insurance companies will usually make a few efforts to contact the other driver, but as a rule they don’t try too hard, so even if you did get the correct rego number you may well have to pay your own excess.

Rosencrantz said :

Given that you don’t know the other person’s details, the registration number, the make/model of their car or apparently even the colour, I predict a long and painful battle with your insurance company to get any of this paid out. Good luck.

troll-sniffer10:20 am 11 Jan 11

watto23 said :

I assume you have reported the incident to the police. Its an offence not to, plus if you report the details your insurance company will probably fix your car without costing you money.

As far as I know if there are no injuries in a prang there’s no requirement to report it, other than what your insurance company requires.

If the number plate is even somewhat close to the real thing the copulators should be able to track down the correct vehicle/plate match.

It’s highly probably that you will just have to grit your teeth and wear this one, if the bimbo who rear-ended you is such a dishonest skank that she would drive off, then getting money out of her (probably)uninsured carcasse will be on a par with getting sensible policies out of Tony Abbott. Good luck to that. years ago i had a bunch of Maoris total my little Mini by not giving way, they admitted it, they told the cops thatey would pay for my car, they even gave me correct contact details. In the end though, despite all positive signs, they never paid a cent and made it obvious they knew that the amount I was claiming was less than the costs of recovery, and that was that.

Captain RAAF10:16 am 11 Jan 11

Kale, Kale, Kale, (what kind of name is that btw?)

Silly girl/boy, anyway, if I was you, i’d lay in wait at the same spot and wait for her to come past and record her cars details, then report it to the insurance company and tell them ‘it just popped into my head, I’m sure it’s correct this time’.

If you think she lived nearby, cruise the streets and look for the car in question

Given that you don’t know the other person’s details, the registration number, the make/model of their car or apparently even the colour, I predict a long and painful battle with your insurance company to get any of this paid out. Good luck.

I doubt your insurance company is going to be too impressed that you don’t know the registration number of the car that hit you, the make and model, or indeed apparently even what colour it was.

Be prepared for a long and involved battle to have your claim paid…

KaleInCanberra9:50 am 11 Jan 11

Cheers, Enrique. Now you mention it, I think you’re right about the silver. Yeah, I’ve made the police report, and all that, but since I’m not 100% certain on the plate, I thought I’d check to see if anyone else saw anything more useful. As for insurance, I’ve only got 3rd party, so I really hope I got that plate right!

You can do crash reports online now (just in case you haven’t already).

What a bitch. Sorry Kale, I won’t say you’re stupid, just naive. Make sure you report it to the police ASAP so that your insurance company can do the repairs.

Just report it to police and make your insurance claim; Let them deal with chasing the offender. You’ll get your car fixed and you can just move on.

I assume you have reported the incident to the police. Its an offence not to, plus if you report the details your insurance company will probably fix your car without costing you money.

Hi Kale,

I was about 5 cars behind you (I arrived after the event) and saw you and the other lady you are talking about standing on the road together.

I thought something was a bit amiss when I saw her drive off and you pulled onto the side of the road. It looked like the rear section of your car was pretty smashed/cracked in.

Unfortunately I didn’t see her numberplate as I was too far back and there were a few other cars in the way. You say her car was white, but I think I recall it being silver? Sorry I’m not much more help than that.

Best of luck.

I think this is the type of thing the police specialise in. Just report it to them.
Good luck.

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