Red lights – advisory only?

Anna Key 24 May 2009 42

For the past few weeks, my journey to work requres me to turn right from Athllon Dve into Mawson Dve. While waiting for the lights, I’m often at the front of the queue and I’m amazed by the number of people that must jump the red to get onto Athllon Dve. There are often still cars in the intersection when the Athllon lights turn green, and often they have clearly exceeded 60kph approaching the intersection. I should also mention that this usually takes place around 8.30 when there are also a lot of students crossing Athllon to get to Melrose High.

On Friday, I saw a few girls nearly get run down by someone deciding that the red light doesn’t apply to them. I always thought you need to stop on a red, or even an amber, but clearly this doesn’t apply at this intersection.

I wonder if the police decided to patrol the area we would hear a lot of bleating about revenue raising?


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GregW GregW 5:42 pm 25 May 09

And also, I said mostly. I don’t think those who run red lights are blameless and never claimed to.

GregW GregW 5:38 pm 25 May 09

caf said :

GregW: The blame doesn’t lie with arrogant foreign students, pedestrians, or the government. The blame lies squarely with the drivers who drive through red lights.

Well actually, no.

When a students enters the road (not a pedestrian crossing) in front of existing cars it is their fault when they get hit, regardless of what someone does at an intersection down the road.

Spideydog Spideydog 5:26 pm 25 May 09

Postalgeek said :

Nevertheless, you did misread his post when you took him to task, so there is a kind of natural eye-for-eye balance to ‘Spiceydog’. Sounds like a little extra mustard between the buns has caused some upset.

No not upset. I got it wrong, he got it wrong. Just pointing put how easy it is to get it wrong. if you are going to try and read between the lines, at least get it right, or else you may be wrong !!!!

Postalgeek Postalgeek 4:54 pm 25 May 09

Nevertheless, you did misread his post when you took him to task, so there is a kind of natural eye-for-eye balance to ‘Spiceydog’. Sounds like a little extra mustard between the buns has caused some upset.

Spideydog Spideydog 4:40 pm 25 May 09

Very Busy said :

Spiceydog,

If you read my post s l o w l y you will see some comma’s. To rephrase in simpleton terms for you what I was saying was

Whoa, slow down there Tex. You may need to read my post more S L O W L Y and you may notice that my name is Spideydog not “Spiceydog”.

Ceej1973 Ceej1973 3:41 pm 25 May 09

Sgt.Bungers said :

The best road safety tool is a police car in your rear view mirror. With ACT Police numbers being so low that at times there are only 2 patrol cars in an area as big as Belconnen… a police car in each of our rear view mirrors is a rare occurrence.

Having recently listened to a speech by ACT Police Commissioner, the Public is leed to believe that ACT actually has the highest rate of Police Officers on the streets at any one time, anywhere in Australia. He did however, go on to say that in many of those cases, the Police vehicle may be Detectives en-route somewhere of a higher priority, or a Paddy wagon that is already escorting criminals, thus unable to stop. We may take these remarks as gospel, or argue them outright, either way, we definitely, do not have enough patrol vehicles on the road for the size of this City (not the population).On these combined facts, I am left to concur with you S.B

Spideydog Spideydog 1:28 pm 25 May 09

You would probably get more waves at the dragway too …. lol

But going on a couple of posts here, some people are getting waved at ….. I must be too rough lookin to get a wave ??

Mr Evil Mr Evil 1:15 pm 25 May 09

If Canberra had a dragway I’m sure none of this sort of behaviour would occur anymore.

Special G Special G 1:00 pm 25 May 09

Woody Mann-Caruso said :

I love it how when people break traffic laws it’s never their fault. It’s other people’s fault, because if you can’t go RIGHT NOW it’s the end of the world. And let’s not forget those speed cameras that shoot out tow cables and drag you into intersections against your will.

As for the “I know I’d do the right thing if a bunch of policemen followed me around!” crowd – take some f.cking responsibility for your own actions, infants. We don’t need to spend tens of millions of dollars on extra police because you had a cry when you got busted for speeding.

I am going to completely agree with Woody on this one.

Jim Jones Jim Jones 10:46 am 25 May 09

Jim Jones said :

caf said :

GregW: The blame doesn’t lie with arrogant foreign students, pedestrians, or the government. The blame lies squarely with the drivers who drive through red lights.

Surely cyclists are too blame.

“to blame” goddammit – there’s something stuck in my ‘o’ key.

Jim Jones Jim Jones 10:45 am 25 May 09

caf said :

GregW: The blame doesn’t lie with arrogant foreign students, pedestrians, or the government. The blame lies squarely with the drivers who drive through red lights.

Surely cyclists are too blame.

caf caf 10:17 am 25 May 09

GregW: The blame doesn’t lie with arrogant foreign students, pedestrians, or the government. The blame lies squarely with the drivers who drive through red lights.

astrojax astrojax 9:24 am 25 May 09

see post #23 [and #26] cantanga, or do you have difficulty reading?

cantanga cantanga 9:01 am 25 May 09

Spideydog said :

I dunno, but the lack of common courtesy driver etiquette is appalling ….. When was the last time someone here has received a thank you wave from another driver ???

When was the last time someone in Canberra deserved a thankyou wave?

DarkLadyWolfMother DarkLadyWolfMother 8:11 am 25 May 09

Funny, ant, I get waves of thanks, or give them, quite often (twice yesterday in fact). I guess people can’t see my frangipani stickers…

Woody Mann-Caruso Woody Mann-Caruso 12:39 am 25 May 09

I love it how when people break traffic laws it’s never their fault. It’s other people’s fault, because if you can’t go RIGHT NOW it’s the end of the world. And let’s not forget those speed cameras that shoot out tow cables and drag you into intersections against your will. As for the “I know I’d do the right thing if a bunch of policemen followed me around!” crowd – take some f.cking responsibility for your own actions, infants. We don’t need to spend tens of millions of dollars on extra police because you had a cry when you got busted for speeding.

Spideydog Spideydog 11:51 pm 24 May 09

astrojax said :

(and spidey, if you drive at me through the chicanes on childers street or into anu [and especially if let me through] you got a wave from me; every time!)

Good on ya astrojax 😉 I would do the same. Good to see a couple of us left out there !!

Spideydog Spideydog 11:49 pm 24 May 09

ant said :

Spideydog said :

I dunno, but the lack of common courtesy driver etiquette is appalling ….. When was the last time someone here has received a thank you wave from another driver ???

I get them quite often! And give them, too. People with frangipanis on their cars don’t give or recieve them; they probably see them as some kind of aggressive act.

Thats a bit of a generalisation there isn’t it ??

ant ant 10:48 pm 24 May 09

Spideydog said :

I dunno, but the lack of common courtesy driver etiquette is appalling ….. When was the last time someone here has received a thank you wave from another driver ???

I get them quite often! And give them, too. People with frangipanis on their cars don’t give or recieve them; they probably see them as some kind of aggressive act.

astrojax astrojax 10:45 pm 24 May 09

sorry busy, but the comma, not a conjunction (and) in your original, gives the text the meaning spideydog pulled you up on – but i see you’re very busy, so a plausible error to make… ; )

as for the first (and several other comments above), what does people reacting slowly in front of you have to do with making someone run a red light? if the traffic ahead doesn’t clear in time for you to drive through a green light, then an amber one lights up, prior to a red one, at which you should stop unless to do so would cause an accident; and at a red one, stop regardless. or did i also learn to drive far too long ago?

(and spidey, if you drive at me through the chicanes on childers street or into anu [and especially if let me through] you got a wave from me; every time!)

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