8 November 2010

Reid dirt car park, what a Joke ACT GOV

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Why do we continually have to put up with rising carpark costs in the ACT.

Just under two years and the Reid CIT dirt carpark has gone from $5 a day to $7, (pre pay ticket is the way to go but still) this is a joke, the carpark is mud most of the time (lucky I have a 4×4), massive potholes to point of a sink hole at one stage, ticket machines that dont except notes always one broken, have to walk a mile to find one, then only to have to walk 10 mins each way to work, only to stress that when you come back to your car might be stolen / dented / keyed or broken into.

The carpark is very poorly maintained!!

Come on ACT GOV fix your crap of a carpark

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You’re on an internet forum. This isn’t the UNICEF head office. If people want to complain about fairly trivial things, this is the place to do it without having other people jump down their throats.

I mean, seriously, what does it solve pointing out there is always someone worse off than them? Well, yeah, there obviously are but no one is going to Africa and directly complaining to these children about their parking woes.

That’s why people come on these things, to discuss issues relevant to people in this community.

mr_wowtrousers11:38 pm 09 Nov 10

Hey man, stop complaining about people complaining. There are kids in Africa dying, don’t you know? Maybe you can cancel your net connection and use the money to save them? Or sell your computer? Or use the time you spend here more wisely?

There are options bud.

“Kids in Africa” is the equivalent of comparing people to Nazi’s on forums. Why even be here if that is your go to answer for everything? Front page, someone asks how they can deal with a neighbour that won’t sort out their yard and it’s attracting mice and rats. Boo hoo. People are dying in the world. I mean, I realise that gives you something to post on every . . . single . . . friggin’ . . . topic here, but c’mon chuckles, how lame is *that*? Is that what you do every day? Jump on here to remind people how trivial their problems compared to how crap it is in another country? You must be a barrel of laughs at dinner parties eh?

Woody Mann-Caruso7:29 pm 09 Nov 10

Well, that was a surprise. Here’s one I prepared earlier.

So, basically, because there is a kid dying in Africa, every other complaint/situation in the world is invalidated?

– It’s not one kid. It’s millions of kids, all around the world, and their entire communities. Starving, homeless, tortured, sick, raped, murdered. Yes, as a matter of fact, your parking woes do pale into whipped vanilla cream of bullsh.t in a snowstorm in light of their
plight.

– Are you really trying to claim that ‘potholes in carpark’ is the same class of problem as ‘parents killed’ or ‘born in remote Indigenous community’ or ‘quadruple amputation’? Really? You thought long and hard, and that’s what you want to bring to the table?

If you want to complain about your parents being killed, or your limbs being blown off, or being stuck on our society’s lowest rung through an accident of birth, or your kids getting cancer from that chemical plant upstream from your water supply, you go right ahead, because that’s just awful. Seriously, that’s some heinous stuff for somebody to have to live with. Except:

– the odds of any of you being a black amputee orphan drinking out of a creek are pretty f*cking low, wouldn’t you say, Mr Office Worker With A Kluger Who Walks From The Carpark On His Two Perfectly Good Legs?

– nobody here is complaining about anything remotely like that, are they, friend? It’s all ‘OMG turning arrows’ and ‘OMG it won’t take
notes?’ and ‘OMG 80 zone?’

“Waaaaaaaaaaaaaah. Turning arrow. Just…just look at it. Don’t they know I’m getting over having to find change in the centre console
of my Pajero? WHY? DEAR GOD, WHY! WHY WONT TEH GOUBMENT HE – oooh, chocolate!”

mr_wowtrousers6:20 pm 09 Nov 10

So, basically, because there is a kid dying in Africa, every other complaint/situation in the world is invalidated? Parking is expensive? Kid in Africa. Lost your job? Kid in Africa. Can’t pay your mortgage? Kid in Africa. Parents killed in drink driving accident by moron? Kid in Africa. Education of Indigenous Australians? Kid in Africa. You lose both arms and both legs? Kid in Africa.

I agree that the cost of parking in Canberra is hardly on the same scale, but c’mon Chuckles, if that is going to be your pithy little platitude, you hereby give up your right to even vaguely raise a complaint about anything.

Woody Mann-Caruso4:42 pm 09 Nov 10

Woody, I think you missed the point of Amanda’s post.

Was the point “People always tell me things could be worse when I whinge about inconsequential bullsh*t but I reckon they should stop saying that because I just want to whinge anyway because it’s, like, totally my right, or something?”

Thought so.

Maybe I’ll stick copies of this on parking machines, and you can all think twice about having a cry about pot holes and walking ten minutes to your airconditioned offices.

Amanda Hugankis said :

carnardly said :

If you moved to Sydney or Melbourne, you could pay 5 times that price….

I guess that’s the price we pay for being able to drive to near the city.

While I agree – rising cost of parking is an inevitability (even though you pay as much in that shitty carpark as you do in other carparks about town that are decently paved)… I get sick of this ‘you’d pay more if you lived in X’ argument. We don’t live there. If that’s a valid retort, then you could also say that no one should be able to get on this forum and complain about anything at all, as in some countries they don’t have enough food and water to go around, and people die of starvation and easily preventable diseases every day.

My apologies – I’ve just heard this argument so many times over the years, its boring.

+1

Woody, I think you missed the point of Amanda’s post. We know that there are people worse off in the world than we are but then that’s not the point is it, and it’s not the debate winner that some people think it is.

After all, if we can’t come on the internet and complain, then what else is it for (aside from porn, of course)

golden_youth12:38 pm 09 Nov 10

watto23 said :

Not only that but the government has moved in next door to the carpark today.

we just moved into anzac park west (dept of defence). 2 levels of underground parking and the outdoor park. any overflow + contractors will be made to park in the red cit carpark, or across the road!

i dont see why more people catch the bus!

Woody Mann-Caruso11:07 am 09 Nov 10

no one should be able to get on this forum and complain about anything at all, as in some countries they don’t have enough food and water to go around, and people die of starvation and easily preventable diseases every day

Now there’s a policy I can get behind. Next time you’re b*tching about having to pay $7 for the privilege of taking your expensive 4×4 offroad before enjoying a leisurely stroll to your office job paying tens of thousands of dollars a year, think about how lucky you are that this is one of your biggest problems.

The dirt carpark in Tuggeranong (Cowlishaw\Eileen Good) is about to go to be jacked up from being free to $4/day too.
You wouldn’t believe the grumbling that now is going on from people who didn’t realise that they were parking on Private Leased Territory Land (IE: Not Public Land) but still started complaining about how much their cars were tearing up the surface or getting stuck when they parked on mud in the rain.
Most people were willing to accept it as a given that parking in mud = muddy cars and occasionally getting stuck.

Sure, its fixed for everyone now, but blame the price increases on the people who expected more from an empty patch of dirt in a mixed commercial\residential zone than somewhere to leave your car unattended for a few hours.

ie: You start talking about how you want quality landscaped dirt to park your car on, you pay for quality landscaped dirt to park your car on. You find an acceptable place to park your car for free conveniently close to work, you shut your mouth and treat it with the respect it deserves.

(Or start complaining about bigger things, since clearly people are listening…)

Woody Mann-Caruso10:07 am 09 Nov 10

Has anyone ever made a complaint about something and not had that complaint rubbished by WMC?

No.

Is there something else I can help you with? I have some free time this morning, so I’d be happy to rubbish your petty complaint about my rubbishing petty complaints.

sepi said :

It is very expensive to create new supply. Which is why it is insane that the govt is selling off almost all existing carparks to create massive office buildings, to bring yet more people and cars to civic.

I have to agree.

urchin said :

Some other options:

You forgot motorbike. Although while riding home in the hail yesterday, I was wishing I had just paid for parking.

Amanda Hugankis said :

My apologies – I’ve just heard this argument so many times over the years, its boring.

+9000

Amanda Hugankis9:26 am 09 Nov 10

carnardly said :

If you moved to Sydney or Melbourne, you could pay 5 times that price….

I guess that’s the price we pay for being able to drive to near the city.

While I agree – rising cost of parking is an inevitability (even though you pay as much in that shitty carpark as you do in other carparks about town that are decently paved)… I get sick of this ‘you’d pay more if you lived in X’ argument. We don’t live there. If that’s a valid retort, then you could also say that no one should be able to get on this forum and complain about anything at all, as in some countries they don’t have enough food and water to go around, and people die of starvation and easily preventable diseases every day.

My apologies – I’ve just heard this argument so many times over the years, its boring.

mr_wowtrousers11:21 pm 08 Nov 10

I am fine with paying for parking. I am annoyed when, as the OP mentions, the “car park” is a section of dirt with a machine plonked on it with ever increasing prices. The one near the lake across from Rydges was an old netball court or something FFS surrounded by potholed dirt, no lines marked. Put a ticket machine there and bingo bango, got yourself a nice revenue stream. When I rang up ACT services to see what the plan was for the supposed park I got some mumbling, passed around and then told it was on the agenda and they would call me when there was more info.

I never did receive that phone call . . .

Some other options:
1. bus
2. bicycle
3. car pool
4. walk
5. move
6. go park someplace else.

arescarti42 said :

Why do we continually have to put up with rising carpark costs in the ACT.

Because the population is growing, demand for parking is increasing, and it is expensive to create new supply.

It is very expensive to create new supply. Which is why it is insane that the govt is selling off almost all existing carparks to create massive office buildings, to bring yet more people and cars to civic.

Has anyone ever made a complaint about something and not had that complaint rubbished by WMC? Yes, many of the things people whinge about on here are minor issues, but why shouldn’t people be annoyed by them or expect something to be done about them?

At least on the days when it is a muddy shitfight the parking inspectors don’t bother going in there.

Tooks said :

Yes, but most people don’t BUY them for shit like that 😉

I went past a shiny range rover up near piccadilly cirus once, quite slows, but fast enough to splash some mud on it. The driver looked unhappy.

georgesgenitals4:12 pm 08 Nov 10

Tooks said :

georgesgenitals said :

Pommy bastard said :

A 4×4 driver complaining about potholes in a car park? You couldn’t make it up.

I laughed when I read the OP – 4x4s were MADE for shit like that!

Yes, but most people don’t BUY them for shit like that 😉

I know. Hence the comment.

🙂

georgesgenitals said :

Pommy bastard said :

A 4×4 driver complaining about potholes in a car park? You couldn’t make it up.

I laughed when I read the OP – 4x4s were MADE for shit like that!

Yes, but most people don’t BUY them for shit like that 😉

la mente torbida3:24 pm 08 Nov 10

I wanted to contribute something witty and sarcastic, but it seems that it’s all covered in other posts

georgesgenitals3:19 pm 08 Nov 10

Pommy bastard said :

A 4×4 driver complaining about potholes in a car park? You couldn’t make it up.

I laughed when I read the OP – 4x4s were MADE for shit like that!

Why do we continually have to put up with rising carpark costs in the ACT.

Because the population is growing, demand for parking is increasing, and it is expensive to create new supply.

Woody Mann-Caruso said :

Dear Warring

My, I hadn’t realised what a state the car park was in. We’ll get right on:

– grading it, paving it and upgrading the drainage
– ripping out the old machines and installing new machines that take notes and dispense change (notes and coins, obviously)
– installing security cameras and hiring a security guard
– deploying some sort of device to eliminate your 10 minute walk to work, which is apparently also our fault – which would you prefer, a wormhole-driven Stargate or Star Trek-style teleportation?

I’m sure you’ll find the new daily rate will easily eliminate the need for you to carry heavy coins.

Love
Jon

Wormhole, please. I don’t know how they work, but I have seen The Fly, and some sort of trans-species transmogrification on the way to work would surely put a crimp in your day.

Pommy bastard2:10 pm 08 Nov 10

A 4×4 driver complaining about potholes in a car park? You couldn’t make it up.

(In the UK they are known as “Chelsea Tractors”, as they are driven very slowly around London by people with more money than sense.)

Woody Mann-Caruso1:59 pm 08 Nov 10

Dear Warring

My, I hadn’t realised what a state the car park was in. We’ll get right on:

– grading it, paving it and upgrading the drainage
– ripping out the old machines and installing new machines that take notes and dispense change (notes and coins, obviously)
– installing security cameras and hiring a security guard
– deploying some sort of device to eliminate your 10 minute walk to work, which is apparently also our fault – which would you prefer, a wormhole-driven Stargate or Star Trek-style teleportation?

I’m sure you’ll find the new daily rate will easily eliminate the need for you to carry heavy coins.

Love
Jon

If you moved to Sydney or Melbourne, you could pay 5 times that price…. I guess that’s the price we pay for being able to drive to near the city.

Not only that but the government has moved in next door to the carpark today.

troll-sniffer1:30 pm 08 Nov 10

Don’t worry it won’t be there much longer, it’s slated for redevelopment proposals etc… then you mighht find out what paying for parking really means

I had some fun in there the other day when it had been raining heaps. Might have added to the wear and tear on the pot holes though…

colourful sydney racing identity1:17 pm 08 Nov 10

Haven’t parked there in 2 years – it was appaling then, sounds like it is worse now. It’s a bit rich to be charging to park there and not maintaining it in any way.

I agree about the pot holes, they need to be filled up. I park there everyday and buy prepaid parking tickets.

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